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Heroes Community > Other Games Exist Too > Thread: WC3 Custom Games
Thread: WC3 Custom Games
Mamgaeater
Mamgaeater


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Shroud, Flying, Trample, Haste
posted June 12, 2008 08:53 PM
Edited by MightyMage at 16:33, 26 Jun 2008.

WC3 Custom Games

Anybody have any favorite custom games for wc3?

I think island defense is pretty good.

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B-E-T-A
B-E-T-A


Promising
Legendary Hero
Guess Who is Back?
posted June 12, 2008 10:00 PM

Lets see, AoS games like:

LoE
AoM
ToB
AotE

but not:
DotA
DoE

and ID is cool to. Many tag games are fun and Alien Parasite games are fun. Undead Assault II, 7 [inset name of hero class here] games and Warlocks are good maps.

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Mamgaeater
Mamgaeater


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Shroud, Flying, Trample, Haste
posted June 13, 2008 12:53 AM

please tell me what they stand for?
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B-E-T-A
B-E-T-A


Promising
Legendary Hero
Guess Who is Back?
posted June 16, 2008 11:47 AM

Legend of Eternity(LoE)
Age of Myths(AoM)
Tides of Blood(ToB)
Adventure of the Zenith(AotZ)

Island Defense(ID)
Undead Assault II(UD2)

Not Recommended:

Defense of the Ancient(DotA)
Desert of Exile

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Feenor
Feenor


Known Hero
posted June 17, 2008 06:19 PM

Why don't you like DotA? I love dota -apem Some cRPG climats
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Mamgaeater
Mamgaeater


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Shroud, Flying, Trample, Haste
posted June 17, 2008 08:41 PM

dota is pretty fun but some heroes are too strong.
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RedSoxFan3
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Fan of Red Sox
posted June 26, 2008 09:20 AM

I like Dota quite a bit. But I agree, some heroes seem to be much stronger than others.
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Feenor
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Known Hero
posted June 27, 2008 10:10 AM

for example Axe
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smvuy
smvuy


Known Hero
posted May 23, 2009 03:42 PM

sometime better than the original campigns

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del_diablo
del_diablo


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Manifest
posted May 23, 2009 03:46 PM

Quote:
Why don't you like DotA? I love dota -apem Some cRPG climats


DotA got flawed hero/item/creep/base balance for my taste. A good example is a fast hero given a few bashers and a decent +agi+ats item.

I agree with B-E-T-A, except that LoE is a little slow and DoE rocks
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Doomforge
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posted May 24, 2009 11:05 AM
Edited by Doomforge at 11:08, 24 May 2009.

Bashers don't stack since 6.5x (don't remember which one)

Bashers are noob items, nobody gets them in a serious play, and nobody did before the remake, too, when they stacked.

Agi carries aren't the best in this game, they are for pubbers. Aside a few agility heroes (mirana, NA, rikimaru) they are all bad for serious play.

Don't draw conclusions from disorganized pubs where there is absolute chaos In a real (teamwork based) play, nobody farms for 60 minutes to own. Skirmishes are quick and fun, based on teamwork, and items are just a luxury, because the game is decided entirely by team play, strategy and counterpicking.


DoTa is a fantastic custom map, absolutely the best imo, and every day 200.000k people on GArena at any point of day play it... there are LAN tournaments for lots of cash organized, which other map has those? NONE. DoTa is the only REALLY successful custom map in this game.

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del_diablo
del_diablo


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Manifest
posted May 25, 2009 01:33 PM

Quote:
Bashers don't stack since 6.5x (don't remember which one)

Bashers are noob items, nobody gets them in a serious play, and nobody did before the remake, too, when they stacked.


Depends. Bashers works stacked if you got a high enogh attackspeed from before, no hero can defend against a permastun. Unless its a meele hero basher.
And serius play is quite subjective, since there is always a good ganking tactic.....

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because the game is decided entirely by team play, strategy and counterpicking.


Last time i checked it was hero killing by ganking, and mostly hero killing. There is little to no siegeing except random breaktroughs. The fun thing is that there are no good siege heroes, as in proper siege.

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DoTa is a fantastic custom map, absolutely the best imo, and every day 200.000k people on GArena at any point of day play it... there are LAN tournaments for lots of cash organized, which other map has those? NONE. DoTa is the only REALLY successful custom map in this game.


DotA got succesfull, that i agree. But it fails as a map, or rather an AoS.
For a map with the exact same approuce i find NW to be better.
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Doomforge
Doomforge


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Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
posted May 25, 2009 02:55 PM

Quote:
Depends. Bashers works stacked if you got a high enogh attackspeed from before


No longer

Dota 6.58 featured following change to basher:


Old Basher:
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Mithril Hammer (1610)
Gauntlets of Strength (150)
Recipe (1460)
Total: 3220

+30 Damage
+3 Strength
15% Bash (10% ranged) for 1.1 seconds
Cooldown: 0
Stacks Diminishingly

New Basher:
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Javelin (1500)
Gauntlets of Strength (150)
Recipe (1450)
Total: 3100

+30 Damage
+3 Strength
25% Bash (10% ranged) for 1.1 seconds
Cooldown: 2 seconds
Does not stack with itself or other bash passives

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del_diablo
del_diablo


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Manifest
posted May 25, 2009 06:55 PM

Good they nailed that.
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Doomforge
Doomforge


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Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
posted May 25, 2009 07:33 PM

Tbh it's more of a buff than a nerf; the item needed it, obviously (it's still useful only on a few heroes).

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del_diablo
del_diablo


Legendary Hero
Manifest
posted May 25, 2009 09:24 PM

Well, on each attack you had 15% chance to bash, then roll on 15/100 extra per addition basher. With 3 bashers and 2.5 attacks a second thats painfull enogh, add in the factor that there is heroes with buildt inn bash and heroes that attacks faster than that.
10/100 on the rolls for ranged, but then you got missiles doing instantely and holding. Meaning its still an advantage in its ways.
I have tried someting similar , with enogh modfiers on fair % you got pretty close to permabuff.
You will get nice attackspeed with building the item using Eaglehorn(the giantic +agi +ats item), don't remember its name. If the hero is a agi hero on the top of that its pretty killing stuff.
Basher may not be the best item(its far from in many aspects), but if you manage to get in proper stuns with it due stacking its pretty deadly.

Thats why its a fix.
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Doomforge
Doomforge


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Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
posted May 25, 2009 09:26 PM

There are like milions of better things to do than to hope for a random proc of a bash. For 3k gold, you may contribute to your team much better.

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del_diablo
del_diablo


Legendary Hero
Manifest
posted May 25, 2009 11:09 PM

It really depends on your hero.
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