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GenieLord
GenieLord


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posted July 03, 2008 12:26 AM

Mytical, I want to be honest...

I've always considered myself an open person, and I never had any problem with transgenders, although I don't have any in my surrounding, but...

When Mytical said that she's going to have a sex-change, I freaked out a bit. It shocked me.
Maybe it because I got used to see Mytical as a woman, or maybe because it's the first time someone I know does this, but it just scares me.
Also in my language, all the verbs and the adjactives say whether the subject is male or female. So when I talk about you, I get stuck.

I'll quote Mytical from the confession thread:
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Ok, time for a confession that will make the others look positively bland.  Here in a short time (not going to specify sorry), I will be going away for a bit, and only posting sporatically.  I will be undergoing surgery.  About a year ago I started taking hormones, and the surgery is gender reassignment surgery.  Afterwards, I will be officially male.

My chosen name was going to be Brad, but that may change.  My brother is asking me to pick up his name should he pass on, and I am inclined to accept his offer.  It's not going to be an easy choice either way.  We shall see.


Since you said it Mytical, it has stayed in the air, and I really want to discuss about it.
I'm not telling you not to do it. I'm not trying to get to out of it. I just want to help myself to get used to this change.

I'm really ashamed that it bothers me, but I have to be honest. Everytime we talk via HCM I think about it, and I feel bad. I feel like a hypocrite. I really had to say this, and I think that perhaps some other people feel like me.

I was very afraid to do this thread, but I just felt that I had to. This needs to be discussed.

I want to ask you, Mytical, how to call you meanwhile "he" or "she"? When are you passing the surgery?

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Adrius
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posted July 03, 2008 12:41 AM

Oh man, this came as an absolute shock for me, I had completly missed that confession thread... And I'm shocked...

I don't even know Mytical the way you know her Gl, so I can only imagine the way you feel, if anything, at least I can try to understand

The idea of someone changing sex is so out of my world that I can't even visualize it, if someone I knew was changing his/her sex... well, I don't know how i would react, but I think I would try to respect their decision, and carry on as always, even though it would be hard...

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winterfate
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posted July 03, 2008 12:42 AM

@GenieLord: The same thing happened to me as well. If you look at the OOC thread for the War of 5/8, me and Azagal asked her (for the record, I still call Misty her ) the very same question. She said that she doesn't care what gender article you use...

As long as you don't call her late for dinner

Seriously though, it is a touchy subject.

My take on it is the following:

Life is all about the pursuit of happiness. You have to pursue what will make you happy. I asked her why she wanted to do this and she gave me a very good reason consisting of how she felt about herself.

So, in the end, who am I to judge?
Besides, we've been friends for about two years now...nothing will ever change that.

And no, GenieLord, I don't think you're a hypocrite. It's a natural reaction I suppose. Hypocritical would be to act nice around her and backstab her verbally when she's not around (which I can tell is not your case, so don't worry about it, my friend. )
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Elvin
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posted July 03, 2008 12:45 AM

No worries Mytical is open about it. Though it may take a while till you get used to Mysty's identity as 'he', it did with me. But does it even matter? He could have said nothing and you'd see no difference, it's the same person.
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winterfate
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posted July 03, 2008 12:49 AM

@Elvin:

I couldn't have said it better myself, my friend.
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GenieLord
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posted July 03, 2008 12:50 AM

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The idea of someone changing sex is so out of my world that I can't even visualize it, if someone I knew was changing his/her sex... well, I don't know how i would react, but I think I would try to respect their decision, and carry on as always, even though it would be hard...

I completely agree with this, Adrius.

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So, in the end, who am I to judge?
Besides, we've been friends for about two years now...nothing will ever change that.

I think that this is very sweet. It's always touching to hear about good friendships. And thanks about what you said, it made me feel a bit better.

Quote:
He could have said nothing and you'd see no difference, it's the same person.
That could have been really weird, and I think that it would be even more shocking if we found out about it long after the surgery. But you're 100% right.

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sith_of_ziost
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posted July 03, 2008 12:53 AM

Whatever Mytical wants to do with herself, albeit a grandiose  thing, she has the right to do it. To be honest, its probably the last thing I'd expect from her, but its her choice. It will be uneasy breaking habits to adjust, but that's what friends do: the adapt and keep with the person.

btw - She won't be on for about 4 hours unless she's early.

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Elvin
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posted July 03, 2008 12:54 AM

Oh and btw the operation has taken place for a long time now. My first hint was when she said that she had pain on parts she didn't know she had and pain on parts she knows she didn't have That was priceless
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GenieLord
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posted July 03, 2008 12:55 AM
Edited by GenieLord at 00:56, 03 Jul 2008.

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Oh and btw the operation has taken place for a long time now.

What, what, what? Are you sure about this?

Maybe she was talking about the things that grew because of the hormons she has been taking?

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mvassilev
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posted July 03, 2008 12:56 AM

This is certainly unusual. I mean, this is quite uncommon. But it is Mytical's choice.

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Oh and btw the operation has taken place for a long time now. My first hint was when she said that she had pain on parts she didn't know she had and pain on parts she knows she didn't have

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Elvin
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posted July 03, 2008 12:59 AM

I wouldn't have mentioned it if I was not certain. I have not seen a picture yet but I believe Mysty.
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kookastar
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posted July 03, 2008 01:31 AM
Edited by kookastar at 01:34, 03 Jul 2008.

The Islander language where I live doesn't have different pronouns for the different sexes - it's just "em" it's always "em" btw no his/him/he differentiation, just "em"... hmmm DOH! not sure what I was thinking, of course mysty will be a he (sorry, went off on a tangent )

It is an interesting topic, I've wondered about sex change ops - can you actually feel the penis the way a man does?

Being a woman is pretty cool tho, not sure i could give that up - there's always toys - it's like we have the best of both worlds

we love you no matter what mysty

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sith_of_ziost
sith_of_ziost


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posted July 03, 2008 02:17 AM

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there's always toys - it's like we have the best of both worlds



oh my gods...although you do point out an excellent point. Aside from pregnancy, women have a lot more options than men.

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xerox
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posted July 03, 2008 02:24 AM

Good choice. Its much easier to be a man then a woman
And you get to experience new things with your body to
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TnT_Addict
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posted July 03, 2008 06:07 AM

OMG OMG OMG! Is it april fools day already?

Is this the main prank?
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OmegaDestroyer
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posted July 03, 2008 06:36 AM

Misty is Misty.  Simple as that.
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Aculias
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posted July 03, 2008 08:26 AM

It's a natural feeling.
I would not worry about it. Most people would feel wierd because it's a hugh life change for a person.
Having a sex change changes a persons life forever.

To me if she's happy then thats ok, she is still the same person.
Just dif for most people who is not used to something that extreme.

Basically it's natural to feel like that, so dont trip.
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TnT_Addict
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posted July 03, 2008 08:33 AM

It's anything but natural Pecu, I don't see monkeys cutting off their penises and sticking them on the female ones.
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Dragon_Slayer
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posted July 03, 2008 08:39 AM

I feel like i should say something here... but i wont.

Isnt that right TNTina...







btw Tixy lix misses you = )
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Azagal
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posted July 03, 2008 08:44 AM
Edited by Azagal at 08:50, 03 Jul 2008.

This thread is interesting...See the thing is actually pretty easy. But let's have it again:

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--->But does it even matter?<---

Or in the immortal words of Shakespeare "Much ado about nothing"!
I mean as Elvin said if she hadn't said the he is not a she anymore would you have known that she now is a he? You sure as hell wouldn't have it's not like Misty has changed she is still who he used to be.

Yeah...your all really slow compared to Winterfate and me ().

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I'm not telling you not to do it

xD It's too late for that anyway.

And the thing I like the most is how we are all debating and talking while Misty probably doesn't give a damn.

And in case you care GL I still refer to him "she". Don't know why. And I absolutely don't think it's normal to do such a thing. Since I don't really know what it changes (as everybody has already pointed out she is still the same person he just looks different). And well if she feels like doing it that's great. Not that I would understand why (why would I boder?). If he's happy now everything is good.
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