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Fauch
Fauch


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posted July 18, 2008 02:47 PM
Edited by Fauch at 23:44, 07 Sep 2008.

[NCF_based] Royal Basilisk by Fauch

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basics

the New Creature Framework thread by sfidanza: http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=24698

project's web page: http://www.heroes-fr.com/en/new_creatures_framework.php

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stats & abilities

Basilisk - Tier 7, Neutral, overpowered (I think)

CREATURE_311 / RoyalBasilisk
power rating: 8500




The Basilisk, a legendary serpent known for its lethal breath, is one of the most feared creatures in the world. Its only presence causes panic, and warriors would rather flee than die fighting it.


att : 30
def : 35
dam : 30 - 45
speed : 7
ini : 13
HPs : 250
shots : -
mana : -

Costs 5000 gold 2 sulfur 2 mercuries
growth : 1

Living creature. 2-square attack. vorpal sword. bear roar. frightful presence.

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screenshots



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download

put the following files in the "data" directory.

http://www.mediafire.com/?i5dblmynitn


Texts in french :

http://http://www.mediafire.com/?nhy1ucng11v

Texts in english :

http://www.mediafire.com/?2xnednxjtwr

unzip the following file in the heroes V directory (I think it's where it's supposed to go)

http://www.mediafire.com/?5dlmm9tte8j

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Warmonger
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posted July 18, 2008 03:03 PM

How did you make it look so good?

Absolutely fantastic creature, however may be hard to deal with indeed. Its power rating is equal to the Phoenixes.

Not to mention we already have some crappy tier 4 basilisks avaliable

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Cepheus
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posted July 18, 2008 03:04 PM

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Not to mention we already have some crappy tier 4 basilisks avaliable



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posted July 18, 2008 03:08 PM

Oops, sorry. I din't mean to be offensive. Just these old creatures can't stand against the latest releases.

The download site doesn't show at all.

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posted July 18, 2008 05:04 PM
Edited by Seraf at 17:15, 18 Jul 2008.

I agree that the light green colour looks perfect but yet I prefer Ceph's Basilisk. In my opinion Lava dragon is not the best creature and not too interesting to clone it in different variations - we already have a crystal dragon based on it, and Cepheus Basilisks look like they are completely new in the game, we are not used to their looks)))
But this is only my opinion))

Edit:  Oh and btw, I think vorpal sword is not the best ability for a lizard. I would suggest replacing 2-square attack with Lizards Byte and vorpal sword with regeneration. I think this would fit better)
Maybe stats should be lowered and stun ability added - torpor or blinding attack for example
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Fauch
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posted July 18, 2008 06:15 PM

Quote:
How did you make it look so good?

actually I thought it could be better, but I'm quite lazy making texture. I used a texture which exists in The Gimp and colored it green)

Quote:
Not to mention we already have some crappy tier 4 basilisks avaliable

maybe he meant they would die in a fight against my basilisk.

Quote:
Lava dragon is not the best creature and not too interesting to clone it in different variations - we already have a crystal dragon based on it

at the beginning I wanted to use the rainbow dragon, and make it a walker by removing his wings and changing the animset, but didn't know how to do. I wanted to make it look like a massive serpent, or lizard, and the lava dragon seemed perfect.
btw, I don't remember a NCF creature using the lava dragon model, the crystal dragon uses the magma dragon.

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I think vorpal sword is not the best ability for a lizard. I would suggest replacing 2-square attack with Lizards Byte and vorpal sword with regeneration. I think this would fit better)
Maybe stats should be lowered and stun ability added - torpor or blinding attack for example


it's meant to be a "real" basilisk, not a H3 basilisk. in the mythology it is said that basilisks kill with their gaze or their breath, not that they stun or paralyze or blind people.

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posted July 18, 2008 06:35 PM

I like this Basilisk, since it truly is baleful and powerful. You need some overpowered creatures to provide a real threat to enemies and you. Without 'em, life would be easy .

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posted July 18, 2008 08:28 PM

I still like the old one, but how do you do the power rating?
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posted July 18, 2008 08:38 PM

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alcibiades
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posted July 18, 2008 08:46 PM
Edited by alcibiades at 20:49, 18 Jul 2008.

I think it looks kinda odd, it looks like a Lava Dragon which has been covered with plants. Can we see it on another terrain than grass perhaps?
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Fauch
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posted July 18, 2008 08:59 PM

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I still like the old one, but how do you do the power rating?

it was kinda random, I saw the phoenix has more than 8500 power points, so I gave this power to the basilisk.

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posted July 18, 2008 09:06 PM

I like how it looks, But I don't like the name (it isn't bad, just we have another NCF based Basilisk).
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posted July 18, 2008 09:21 PM

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I still like the old one, but how do you do the power rating?

it was kinda random, I saw the phoenix has more than 8500 power points, so I gave this power to the basilisk.

I don't think it's that overpowered. Although my spreadsheet is rather arbitrary in some of its numbers, it gives a rating of 6185, which is actually pretty average for a level 7. Although this can not be taken completely at face value, it does give an indication that it's not way off (like 8500 would be).
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posted July 18, 2008 10:41 PM
Edited by SimonaK at 22:46, 18 Jul 2008.

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Not to mention we already have some crappy tier 4 basilisks avaliable





Seriously, Fauch, Basilisk is a creature already created.....

It is still listed there:

http://www.heroes-fr.com/pages/NCF_presentation.php

Why not change the name of your new creature, simply?

like...mhhh... Grass Dragon or Dragon of Herbs ...

Anyway, I think that re-use the same name of another creature is not cool...


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sith_of_ziost
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posted July 19, 2008 12:35 AM

Or perhaps "Greater Basilisk" to show that urs and the lizard-made basilisk are related...

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posted July 19, 2008 01:01 AM

Greater Basilisk is used too, though.

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SimonaK
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posted July 19, 2008 01:54 AM
Edited by SimonaK at 05:18, 19 Jul 2008.

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Greater Basilisk is used too, though.


And...Salamander!!!

Ya, I know very well this creatures and I'm sure that Fauch knows this three too.

My opinion is that this three creatures are important and must go to exist.

It's a best idea for Fauch to find another name for his new creature.

Come on, Fauch you have enough imagination to find it.


Quote:
/MapObjects/Dwarf/Basilisk.(AdvMapMonsterShared).xdb



OMG! Here is a perfect example of an evolution moving towards a pure chaos

Hem! Hem! folder for Neutral ones exists!


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Fauch
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posted July 19, 2008 04:18 PM

yeah I know, I didn't want to change all the links and the names of all the repertories.
anyway "dwarf" in the links, doesn't mean the creature is related to the dwarf faction in any way.

and I knew cepheus made basilisks too, but I wanted to make a different basilisk.
ok, if you really need another name, I suggest basilisk king.

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posted July 19, 2008 04:30 PM
Edited by SimonaK at 16:30, 19 Jul 2008.

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yeah I know, I didn't want to change all the links and the names of all the repertories.
anyway "dwarf" in the links, doesn't mean the creature is related to the dwarf faction in any way.



Isn't all link must be changed while creating of creature.

Ex: a PatternAttack link doesn't need to change...same things for texture, anim etc

(with exception, if the PatternAttack's code is directly writed in the GameMechanics File of creature,
then I seriously suggest to remove it from and put it in a own file.)

But I think that main links files must respect tree structures files, It's important
not for the game...but for humans..

Ex: a AdvMapObject that represents a neutral creature must be in neutral folder...

You already know that exists a mess in data.pak

Some Creators use /MapObjects/Neutral
and others prefer /MapObjects/Neutrals

Caution: a file named /MapObjects/Neutrals/Basilisk.(AdvMapMonsterShared).xdb already exists



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and I knew cepheus made basilisks too, but I wanted to make a different basilisk.
ok, if you really need another name, I suggest basilisk king.



I think that it is correct.

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posted July 19, 2008 07:14 PM
Edited by VokialBG at 19:15, 19 Jul 2008.

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ok, if you really need another name, I suggest basilisk king.


King is a title, there should be only one King but why not Royal Basilisk? It's basically the same as idea...
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