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Heroes Community > Heroes 5 - Modders Workshop > Thread: [NCF Based] Power Mage by Fauch
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Fauch
Fauch


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Undefeatable Hero
posted August 27, 2008 03:24 PM
Edited by VokialBG at 09:18, 25 Oct 2008.

[NCF Based] Power Mage by Fauch

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basics

the New Creature Framework thread by sfidanza: http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=24698

project's web page: http://www.heroes-fr.com/en/new_creatures_framework.php

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stats & abilities

Power Mage - Tier 10, Neutral.

CREATURE_386 / ArcaneMaster
power rating: 15000

The Power Mages are the most powerful mages. Their power is beyond the imagination. Moreover, they are protected by a force field which reduces damage from ranged attack, both magical and physical.

att : 10
def : 20
dam : 10 - 10
speed : 5
ini : 12
HPs : 50
shots : -
mana : 150
growth : 3

Costs 5000 gold, 5 crystals, 5 mercures, 5 sulfurs, 5 gems
Immune to mind control. Magic proof 50%. Large shield. Spellcaster (Dispel Expert, Mass Dispel Expert, Haste Extra expert, Call lightning Expert, Summon phoenix Expert, Celestial shield Extra expert)

(It should be another super challenging creature, well, except if the AI plays it stupidly. The cost implies players may recruit it, but even one of them is so powerful that they should be really hard to get)

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screenshots







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download

Download
(you can find all files listed below in this archive)

put the following files in the "userMODS" directory.

http://myfreefilehosting.com/f/2277ae9c15_0.54MB

Texts in french :

http://myfreefilehosting.com/f/a82766bc5c_0.1MB


Texts in english :

http://myfreefilehosting.com/f/ddd6902d5e_0.1MB

unzip the following file in the heroes V directory (I think it's where it's supposed to go)

http://myfreefilehosting.com/f/8d7b39a4ac_0.02MB

Alternate version of the power mage (ability blade barrier instead of 50% magic proof and great shield, power : 10000, costs 6000 gold, 2 gems, 2 mercuries, 2 crystals, 2 sulfurs) :

http://myfreefilehosting.com/f/fbe730a7a2_0.54MB

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(I may also release not totally imba creatures sometimes )

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radar
radar


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Castle/Haven player
posted August 27, 2008 03:27 PM

If you mention a force field give them ABILITY_BLADE_BARRIER
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Fauch
Fauch


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Undefeatable Hero
posted August 27, 2008 03:29 PM
Edited by Fauch at 15:36, 27 Aug 2008.

I thought about that. but it may make them way too imba. or maybe it's ok, since they are tier 10?
hum, actually I could release 2 versions of the same mod...

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radar
radar


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Castle/Haven player
posted August 27, 2008 03:38 PM

Tier 10? I don't know if the game can calculate damage properly. Have you tried to attack them with the hero?
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Warmonger
Warmonger


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fallen artist
posted August 27, 2008 03:46 PM

If you ever met imba Shadow Dragon, you may have noticed it was something like tier17 and worked fine (but was not right at all anyway).

Aparts from that, I find this guy pretty random and overrated, its physical parameters make it die first turn and growth 3 just makes no sense at all. Did you mean 0.3 maybe?

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SimonaK
SimonaK


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posted August 27, 2008 04:24 PM
Edited by SimonaK at 06:49, 28 Aug 2008.

a Tier10?

What good joke!

You are a joker, Fauch

What does it occur with you?

You become increasingly sick.

First, your Ninja ..puah!

a Ninja? in which game are us?

Mortal Kombat?


Omega Dragon.... OMEGA ...

Where does it come?

Tchernobil Nuclear Central?

Then,

A Tier 10???

did your creature meet God?

Or perhaps it is God....



About me, a Tier 10 moves a eye and everybody die.

Moreover, you given to your creature pratically all invocation Expert spells
as Shadow of Death's Nature Protector

I'm not pride of you


What is following?

a Tier20 the Omega Arcane Ninja Mage of Dragon?


NOTE:

I learn you that the next version of RTMG will allow very easily to modify by its owner all game mechanics stats of all NCF Creatures that he has in its game.









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sith_of_ziost
sith_of_ziost


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Scouting the Multiverse
posted August 27, 2008 05:57 PM

This creature looks like an excellent candidate for the Faiz Unique Hero Model. Wow. It just has that kick of texture that's slightly addictive.

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Fauch
Fauch


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Undefeatable Hero
posted August 27, 2008 09:00 PM

at least someone is interested in the mod

it's tier 10 because he can summon a phoenix... the strength of the phoenix depends on the power and on the level.

and I don't plan any level 20 creatures. what is the problem with 3 super powerful creatures?

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magnomagus
magnomagus


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Legendary Hero
modding wizard
posted August 28, 2008 12:57 AM

You can create anything you want but you should at least correct one major issue with this creature: the HP/Price ratio is ridiculous.
Let's say you meet a mediocre warlock casting a 500 damage lightning bolt on a stack of powermages. Now you lose 25000 gold + 100 resources
in one blow: That was quite a risky investment!

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SimonaK
SimonaK


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Supreme Hero
posted August 28, 2008 06:45 AM
Edited by SimonaK at 06:59, 28 Aug 2008.

Quote:
it's tier 10 because he can summon a phoenix... the strength of the phoenix depends on the power and on the level.



He can summon a phoenix... and after?

any tier can summon a phoenix...

about power, if the heroes desire a stronger summoned phoenix again again and again, not need to have a overpowered tier creature...
just have a lot of this creature

More quantity of the creature you have more its spell power is strong.

So, it's better to recruit each week the creature to build a big army with it, even if its growth is 1, instead of creating and using a too overpowered tier creature. Better for the game play.

Shadow of Death's Nature Protector is a tier 7 and already, its summoned phoenix's power is very acceptable. we can increase the power of this phoenix by increasing the quantity of Nature Protector.


Quote:
what is the problem with 3 super powerful creatures?


for this one: its ridiculous tier.

for ninja and omega dragon: their name. completly out of Heroes's world.

But, this is just my personal opinion.

Anyway, perhaps you forget that it's not because a creature is super powerful that its is cool, funny and remarkable.

Radar's squeleton mage is just a tier 1, but its game play is remarkable.






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razor5
razor5


Famous Hero
Freezing...
posted August 28, 2008 10:16 AM

Yeah,probably tier 10 is too exagerated for only Phoenix Summoning..

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Warmonger
Warmonger


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fallen artist
posted August 28, 2008 10:55 AM

It's not BECAUSE of summoning, it's just FOR this spell. Phoenix att & def depend on the level of the caster - not sure if that works also for creatures however.

You can also try to reduce his growth below 1 for increased spellpower, they are not going to be avaliable for sale anyway I believe.

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Fauch
Fauch


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Undefeatable Hero
posted August 28, 2008 11:45 AM

I already hear simonak complaining if they aren't recruitable
should they not be recruitable or should I change the price?

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Adrius
Adrius


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Undefeatable Hero
Stand and fight!
posted August 28, 2008 11:49 AM

Epic texture work!
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razor5
razor5


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Freezing...
posted August 28, 2008 12:02 PM

Quote:
I already hear simonak complaining if they aren't recruitable
should they not be recruitable or should I change the price?


Change the price

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Fauch
Fauch


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Undefeatable Hero
posted August 28, 2008 12:12 PM

I'm not sure of what should be the price and the power rating. alcibiades'excel power calculator can't give me a hint, because I gave extremly powerful spells to my creature.

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SimonaK
SimonaK


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posted August 28, 2008 04:55 PM
Edited by SimonaK at 19:28, 28 Aug 2008.

Quote:
I already hear simonak complaining if they aren't recruitable
should they not be recruitable or should I change the price?


What you will make for he is not recrutable?

to change her growth? to put it to 0?

useless.

RTMG's AdvMapObject Scanner will create a dwelling for him if the player wants.

RTMG will offer, for NCF mods, an interface containing all their gamemechanics stats
value as the growth.

This interface will allow to modify them and will create a MOD file with
updated gamemechanics xdb files.

So, the growth can be modified as the attack or the defense or the cost or the abilities...


If the creature is released perfectly balanced, I don't think that players
give themselves the effort to modify the stats.

but, anyway, anytime, they will.



So, fix your creature's stats as you want.

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Disturbed-Gnu
Disturbed-Gnu


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Pro Bacon Vodka Brewer
posted August 28, 2008 08:39 PM

I must say i agree with SimonaK..

Your creatures ar only useful in Map Editor...
In a normal map your creatures is waste of time!

Make more Tier 1-7 creatures that actually can be usefull! Like you did with the new alt upg


Don't get me wrong! I really like your creatures (i'm actually making a tier 8 myself right now :S ) but it's just Tier 10? Come on!

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Fauch
Fauch


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Undefeatable Hero
posted August 28, 2008 09:44 PM

I could find a use for them...

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Disturbed-Gnu
Disturbed-Gnu


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posted August 29, 2008 04:09 PM

I could too! I'm creating a campaign with all NCF's in! Inclusive your tier 8-10...

Actually i describe them as legends in my campaigns!
Lightness against Darkness!

(Would you do me a favor maybe? I need four dragon elements!
A Dragon of each magic skill.. And i have created a texture for my own Chaos Angel hwo will have a important role in my campaign, i just don't know how to make it NCF.)

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