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Thread: [NCF Based] Power Mage by Fauch [ This thread is pages long: (1) 2 ] |
Fauch
Promising
Legendary Hero
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posted August 27, 2008 09:24 AM |
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Edited by VokialBG at 03:18, 25 Oct 2008.
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[NCF Based] Power Mage by Fauch
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basics
the New Creature Framework thread by sfidanza: http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=24698
project's web page: http://www.heroes-fr.com/en/new_creatures_framework.php
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stats & abilities
Power Mage - Tier 10, Neutral.
CREATURE_386 / ArcaneMaster
power rating: 15000
The Power Mages are the most powerful mages. Their power is beyond the imagination. Moreover, they are protected by a force field which reduces damage from ranged attack, both magical and physical.
att : 10
def : 20
dam : 10 - 10
speed : 5
ini : 12
HPs : 50
shots : -
mana : 150
growth : 3
Costs 5000 gold, 5 crystals, 5 mercures, 5 sulfurs, 5 gems
Immune to mind control. Magic proof 50%. Large shield. Spellcaster (Dispel Expert, Mass Dispel Expert, Haste Extra expert, Call lightning Expert, Summon phoenix Expert, Celestial shield Extra expert)
(It should be another super challenging creature, well, except if the AI plays it stupidly. The cost implies players may recruit it, but even one of them is so powerful that they should be really hard to get)
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screenshots
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download
Download
(you can find all files listed below in this archive)
put the following files in the "userMODS" directory.
http://myfreefilehosting.com/f/2277ae9c15_0.54MB
Texts in french :
http://myfreefilehosting.com/f/a82766bc5c_0.1MB
Texts in english :
http://myfreefilehosting.com/f/ddd6902d5e_0.1MB
unzip the following file in the heroes V directory (I think it's where it's supposed to go)
http://myfreefilehosting.com/f/8d7b39a4ac_0.02MB
Alternate version of the power mage (ability blade barrier instead of 50% magic proof and great shield, power : 10000, costs 6000 gold, 2 gems, 2 mercuries, 2 crystals, 2 sulfurs) :
http://myfreefilehosting.com/f/fbe730a7a2_0.54MB
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(I may also release not totally imba creatures sometimes  )
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Radar
Responsible
Supreme Hero
the honest one
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posted August 27, 2008 09:27 AM |
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If you mention a force field give them ABILITY_BLADE_BARRIER
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"it's so bad enough I can't tell how bad is"
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Fauch
Promising
Legendary Hero
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posted August 27, 2008 09:29 AM |
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Edited by Fauch at 09:36, 27 Aug 2008.
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I thought about that. but it may make them way too imba. or maybe it's ok, since they are tier 10?
hum, actually I could release 2 versions of the same mod...
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Radar
Responsible
Supreme Hero
the honest one
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posted August 27, 2008 09:38 AM |
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Tier 10? I don't know if the game can calculate damage properly. Have you tried to attack them with the hero?
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"it's so bad enough I can't tell how bad is"
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Warmonger
Supreme Hero
fallen artist
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posted August 27, 2008 09:46 AM |
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If you ever met imba Shadow Dragon, you may have noticed it was something like tier17 and worked fine (but was not right at all anyway).
Aparts from that, I find this guy pretty random and overrated, its physical parameters make it die first turn and growth 3 just makes no sense at all. Did you mean 0.3 maybe?
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SimonaK
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted August 27, 2008 10:24 AM |
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Edited by SimonaK at 00:49, 28 Aug 2008.
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a Tier10?
What good joke!
You are a joker, Fauch
What does it occur with you?
You become increasingly sick.
First, your « Ninja » ..puah!
a Ninja? in which game are us?
Mortal Kombat?
Omega Dragon.... OMEGA ...
Where does it come?
Tchernobil Nuclear Central?
Then,
A Tier 10???
did your creature meet God?
Or perhaps it is God....
About me, a Tier 10 moves a eye and everybody die.
Moreover, you given to your creature pratically all invocation Expert spells
as Shadow of Death's Nature Protector
I'm not pride of you
What is following?
a Tier20 the Omega Arcane Ninja Mage of Dragon?
NOTE:
I learn you that the next version of RTMG will allow very easily to modify by its owner all game mechanics stats of all NCF Creatures that he has in its game.
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sith_of_ziost
Promising
Supreme Hero
Scouting the Multiverse
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posted August 27, 2008 11:57 AM |
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This creature looks like an excellent candidate for the Faiz Unique Hero Model. Wow. It just has that kick of texture that's slightly addictive.
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Fauch
Promising
Legendary Hero
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posted August 27, 2008 03:00 PM |
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at least someone is interested in the mod
it's tier 10 because he can summon a phoenix... the strength of the phoenix depends on the power and on the level.
and I don't plan any level 20 creatures. what is the problem with 3 super powerful creatures?
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magnomagus
Promising
Famous Hero
modding wizard
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posted August 27, 2008 06:57 PM |
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You can create anything you want but you should at least correct one major issue with this creature: the HP/Price ratio is ridiculous.
Let's say you meet a mediocre warlock casting a 500 damage lightning bolt on a stack of powermages. Now you lose 25000 gold + 100 resources
in one blow: That was quite a risky investment!
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SimonaK
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted August 28, 2008 12:45 AM |
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Edited by SimonaK at 00:59, 28 Aug 2008.
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quote:
it's tier 10 because he can summon a phoenix... the strength of the phoenix depends on the power and on the level.
He can summon a phoenix... and after?
any tier can summon a phoenix...
about power, if the heroes desire a stronger summoned phoenix again again and again, not need to have a overpowered tier creature...
just have a lot of this creature
More quantity of the creature you have more its spell power is strong.
So, it's better to recruit each week the creature to build a big army with it, even if its growth is 1, instead of creating and using a too overpowered tier creature. Better for the game play.
Shadow of Death's Nature Protector is a tier 7 and already, its summoned phoenix's power is very acceptable. we can increase the power of this phoenix by increasing the quantity of Nature Protector.
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what is the problem with 3 super powerful creatures?
for this one: its ridiculous tier.
for ninja and omega dragon: their name. completly out of Heroes's world.
But, this is just my personal opinion.
Anyway, perhaps you forget that it's not because a creature is super powerful that its is cool, funny and remarkable.
Radar's squeleton mage is just a tier 1, but its game play is remarkable.
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razor5
Famous Hero
Freezing...
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posted August 28, 2008 04:16 AM |
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Yeah,probably tier 10 is too exagerated for only Phoenix Summoning..
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Warmonger
Supreme Hero
fallen artist
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posted August 28, 2008 04:55 AM |
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It's not BECAUSE of summoning, it's just FOR this spell. Phoenix att & def depend on the level of the caster - not sure if that works also for creatures however.
You can also try to reduce his growth below 1 for increased spellpower, they are not going to be avaliable for sale anyway I believe.
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Fauch
Promising
Legendary Hero
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posted August 28, 2008 05:45 AM |
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I already hear simonak complaining if they aren't recruitable 
should they not be recruitable or should I change the price?
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Adrius
Promising
Legendary Hero
Follower of the Scaly One
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posted August 28, 2008 05:49 AM |
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Epic texture work!  
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There's no Kill like Overkill
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razor5
Famous Hero
Freezing...
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posted August 28, 2008 06:02 AM |
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quote:
I already hear simonak complaining if they aren't recruitable
should they not be recruitable or should I change the price?
Change the price
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Fauch
Promising
Legendary Hero
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posted August 28, 2008 06:12 AM |
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I'm not sure of what should be the price and the power rating. alcibiades'excel power calculator can't give me a hint, because I gave extremly powerful spells to my creature.
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SimonaK
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted August 28, 2008 10:55 AM |
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Edited by SimonaK at 13:28, 28 Aug 2008.
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I already hear simonak complaining if they aren't recruitable
should they not be recruitable or should I change the price?
What you will make for he is not recrutable?
to change her growth? to put it to 0?
useless.
RTMG's AdvMapObject Scanner will create a dwelling for him if the player wants.
RTMG will offer, for NCF mods, an interface containing all their gamemechanics stats
value as the growth.
This interface will allow to modify them and will create a MOD file with
updated gamemechanics xdb files.
So, the growth can be modified as the attack or the defense or the cost or the abilities...
If the creature is released perfectly balanced, I don't think that players
give themselves the effort to modify the stats.
but, anyway, anytime, they will.
So, fix your creature's stats as you want.
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Disturbed-Gnu
Supreme Hero
Elements of Life
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posted August 28, 2008 02:39 PM |
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I must say i agree with SimonaK..
Your creatures ar only useful in Map Editor...
In a normal map your creatures is waste of time!
Make more Tier 1-7 creatures that actually can be usefull! Like you did with the new alt upg 
Don't get me wrong! I really like your creatures (i'm actually making a tier 8 myself right now :S ) but it's just Tier 10? Come on!
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Fauch
Promising
Legendary Hero
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posted August 28, 2008 03:44 PM |
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I could find a use for them...
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Disturbed-Gnu
Supreme Hero
Elements of Life
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posted August 29, 2008 10:09 AM |
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I could too! I'm creating a campaign with all NCF's in! Inclusive your tier 8-10...
Actually i describe them as legends in my campaigns!
Lightness against Darkness!
(Would you do me a favor maybe? I need four dragon elements!
A Dragon of each magic skill.. And i have created a texture for my own Chaos Angel hwo will have a important role in my campaign, i just don't know how to make it NCF.)
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