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william
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posted October 15, 2008 07:03 AM |
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JapanGamer, Killa didn't try and put himself in the firing line by saying "truuuu", he was merely agreeing with what a member was saying. How is that a bad thing exactly?
What I think would be good is if everybody could just get along with one another. What's the point of fighting, insulting and arguing with one another all the time? It just wastes your time and everybody elses time by reading all of it. It's good that Killa isn't making that bad posts anymore, especially the ones where he swore (mind you, I don't have anything wrong with swearing but I try to follow rules here), so I commend him for that.
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JapanGamer
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posted October 15, 2008 07:20 AM |
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his mentality is that its ok for him to post but not for others to reply.. He is not allowed here for one thing, for another he made himself out to be a target. What he agrees with is a comment by Pandora and if you look closely it only gives him the right to believe people shouldn't retaliate when he posts, because his posts are deleted, he is banned, and "he has no chance of talking back" Like we're all taking free shots. I think killa is full of it especially because of what he says "truuuuuu"
not that I disagree with Pandora 100% but killa your banned, go away,, shoo bee, quit making people bust out the fly swatter, if there really was a swarm of you I'd be scarred but your a lone immature bee who wont go away when politely or forcefully asked to.
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william
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posted October 15, 2008 07:24 AM |
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I have to disagree with you. And your post seems like provocation by the way, as if you want him to reply to you and for him to get in trouble yet again because he might try and defend himself. If only those posts were kept inside as thoughts rather than post them here. This is one reason why he is bad mannered, because people respond to him in a way that he gets insulted by, he replies, and his post might be bad and then get a penalty. Why? Because someone provoked it? It really isn't fair for him, and maybe if you just leave him alone and give him a chance then this mess might be fixed.
Plus, he was agreeing with a member by saying "truuuu" so I hardly think that he thinks it is okay for him to post but not others if he agrees with someone. Plus, if he does think like that, then it might be because most of the posts directed at him are negative towards him. Perhaps by insulting him or provoking him, who knows.
I might be wrong with everything I said in this post, but I really do think that Killa deserves another chance and for posts like what you just made to just stay inside our heads rather than on this message board. You don't need to like the guy, but at least stop the negative posts towards him and maybe give him a second chance. I know that when he did come back with his first account that he insulted me a bit, but it didn't really bother me since I see stuff like that all the time, and by bother I mean insult. Sure, it may have been a bit annoying and a bit strange to see him come back and write a new thread full of swearing.
I was once on the verge of getting banned and I know what it is like to be penalised and have people write a lot of negative things about me. But I'm still here aren't I? Why? Because people here gave me a second chance, and people in real life also gave me a second chance and look at me now. I might not be the perfect member, but I'm a lot better than what I used to be back in 2006. I believe Killa can make a similar change as well.
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JapanGamer
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posted October 15, 2008 07:36 AM |
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He started the mess with his childish demeanor "* this * you * everything about hc" Agree to disagree I guess, but I'm merely stating the facts as I see them.
His saying Truuuuuu is an attack against the people who post after him since he is hardly able to post back (then again, the irritating nat who ruined any chance of coming back freely made 14 names or so when he was told to go away)
Dont you see it? He was told to go away by the administration here but like an irritating bee he has to spam random threads like this one. I wish he would try to let it go, and leave, go to CH or something. Everyone who baby talks him is going to make a friend,, go for it.. And if you dont want me to respond, dont talk to me or about what I said. Something similar to what killa should do, leave it be
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JapanGamer
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posted October 15, 2008 07:41 AM |
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You guys have rarely seen Vangelis in a happy mood so I thought I'd remedy the situation and show him in a more positive light  I first met him on ubi forum, introduced him to ToH and started teaching him little by little. We had played a lot of games which resulted in many many losses for him, after all I had a good head start in H5. But along the way he started improving and helping other people even if he was cocky with some. And kinda jerkish 
We just had a good battle on sidekick - very fun map I must say - and he finally managed to defeat me. Very good game even though I can hardly believe his outrageous luck. In any case a win is a win so congratulations, just don't get too cocky Double the pride, double the fall!
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william
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posted October 15, 2008 07:42 AM |
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I guess you don't know what the word true means. True means the right thing. If you were to say that you were a male then I would say true because it is the truth, right? I hardly see "truuuu" as any kind of attack or anything like it. He just agrees with what somebody says. Is that bad or something? I guess nobody can agree with anyone anymore because it might be some sort of insult or attack.  
I don't really care if you respond or not since I believe in freedom of speech. Go ahead and post though, I'm not going to stop you. But i just want you to realise that Killa saying "tru" was NOT an attack towards anyone. I know that I am speaking for him and that maybe I shouldn't be, but I see that as what he meant. I don't see any kind of attack meant by saying that a post was the truth.
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JapanGamer
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posted October 15, 2008 07:50 AM |
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this statement talks down upon those who spoke against killa
"I deleted the comments because it is unfair for you guys to continue to make shots at killa when he isn't allowed to reply, what do you hope to accomplish?"
Killa replies "truuuuuu" Which reaffirms a statement talking down on his opposers.
Don't get me wrong, what Pandora says is right to a degree (he is not allowed to reply, but does anyways like a 7 year old) but nothing is accomplished.. If it were up to me I would have everyone 100% ignore anything any killa bee has to say.. But I cant get what I want, but I'm not gonna act like a 7 year old and try to take it either.
Bottom line and the last thing I'll say "to" killa bee, is go away like you were asked to or appeal, but good luck appealing because you made a sick mess.
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william
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posted October 15, 2008 07:53 AM |
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It seems like you agreed with Pandora to a certain extent, yet you yourself keep making shots at him. You really need to let it go dude. Again, his post had NOTHING wrong with it at all. I think he doesn't want anyone to make shots at him when he can't even defend himself. How fair is that? How would you feel if someone was making shots at you but you couldn't reply to them and defend yourself? It would be tough, and that is another reason why he said "truuuu" There's nothing wrong with his post, and it seems like the only 7 year olds are the people that keep making shots at him.
Forgive and Forget. Give him a second chance.
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JapanGamer
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posted October 15, 2008 07:57 AM |
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You don't see it but he took a cheap shot at people who reply to his unwanted posts. A cheap shot that's obviously hard to see, but a cheap shot none the less. I'm done with this for today..
Actually, I'm surprised Pandora didn't talk down to him saying go away or anything to that degree. Is he allowed back or something? Never mind, I don't really care.
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william
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posted October 15, 2008 07:59 AM |
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No it wasn't. Nothing wrong with his post at all. You're just trying to start the drama all over again. Give it up. Seriously.
And Pandora wouldn't reply like that because she is a Moderator and they can't do things like that.
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JapanGamer
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posted October 15, 2008 08:09 AM |
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I wont give it up.. sorry Who cares anyways? Killa is constantly attacking members of HC, who cares whether or not you see his one word thoughtful post as being an attack or not? It was construed to be by myself, the first two lines in Pandora post saying something along the lines of "leave killa alone, stop taking cheap shots on him, its unfair and accomplishes nothing, you are belittled your childish for taking cheap shots" Truuuuuu
I see it that way, dont tell me not to see it that way, I dont care how anyone else see's it. Its a low visibility cheap shot and theres a chance killa meant nothing by it, but theres more probability he smirked when he read pandoras message.
This message will self destruct when pandora or other mod sees it so who really cares
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JapanGamer
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posted October 15, 2008 08:15 AM |
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congrats vangelis
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You guys have rarely seen Vangelis in a happy mood so I thought I'd remedy the situation and show him in a more positive light I first met him on ubi forum, introduced him to ToH and started teaching him little by little. We had played a lot of games which resulted in many many losses for him, after all I had a good head start in H5. But along the way he started improving and helping other people even if he was cocky with some. And kinda jerkish
We just had a good battle on sidekick - very fun map I must say - and he finally managed to defeat me. Very good game even though I can hardly believe his outrageous luck. In any case a win is a win so congratulations, just don't get too cocky Double the pride, double the fall!
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Adrius
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posted October 15, 2008 09:10 AM |
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Edited by Adrius at 10:27, 15 Oct 2008.
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Lol, I'll resist the temptation of quoting William and writing "Truuuu"
Seriously, if you want the thread back on topic, you shouldn't make a reply Japangamer... just stop discussing, William will have to reply now otherwise it'll be like surrendering you know...
Or, you could just use Hcm...? 
EDIT: good, finally...
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posted October 15, 2008 09:30 AM |
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Grats for won Vangelis21. Look like Elvin is a good teacher
About most comments in this (many other too)topic...HC start scare me alot. Forum look very danger place now and ppl argue for noting all time.
To moderators: I dont like how work bans now. Make it temporaly for 36h. For this time people can grow and start talk "better". When you ban some one permanent he is not breack rules for make new acount because he dont have other in real.  Think about it too.
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Elvin
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posted October 15, 2008 12:20 PM |
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Uhh nobody was banned. Killa's earlier accounts were silenced for obvious reasons and he simply made new ones because he didn't want to wait. And you are right, the place has gotten scary as of lately. This will not continue one way or another.
Will, you don't get it so leave it at that. Here's something that may prove useful in the future.
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Philosophy of Anger
If you confront anger with anger, it will grow bigger. It is like putting out fire with a flamethrower. How can you put out a fire? With the opposite element, water. For anger it is calmness. Why does the water stop fire? Because the fire cannot get air which fuels it. Notice how you couldn't keep angry for very long when no one paid attention to your anger, when no one responded to it? Anger is fuelled by attention. Anger can be put out with calmness, which cuts off attention which anger needs to survive.
Angry person wants attention. They will get as angry as they can to get attention. Only when they realize that their anger will not work to get it, they can give it up and try sound reasoning. Give angry people the space to give up their anger. Be calm, listen but do not respond to their anger. By giving them that space you can make a big difference in how they live their life.
Many are mistaken in their ways of peace. Attacking anger is anger. Many peacekeepers are that which destroys peace. Many have justified their anger by making their opposition wrong, bad or evil. But doesn't the opposition think the same thoughts? Each opponent is good in their eyes and bad in the eyes of opposition. That makes each one good and bad at the same time, right and wrong at the same time. Righteousness is not universal, it is only made up to hide the very anger that it is.
We live in the world of people who think wanting peace is a good enough excuse to be unpeaceful to their enemy. A world of people who are convinced that their anger will somehow cause peace. The truth is that only peace may cause peace. If you want peace in your life, lead by an example. Be the source of peace, giving others the space to do what you do. If you want to eliminate anger, you must start by eliminating it within yourself, only then can you show others the way. Remember, negativity to another is anger, whatever words you call it, however you justify it.
Angry people want to prove something. They want you to agree. If you disagree, they will become more angry, trying harder to get your attention and agreement. Your journey to peace can start here at Heroes Community. Next time you see anger, relinquish it within yourself.
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Mytical
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posted October 15, 2008 12:37 PM |
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Even though it's from the CoC, still very well said.
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pandora
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posted October 15, 2008 02:52 PM |
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Ughhhh... JapanGamer, I wasn't belittling or talking down to anyone...My comment was @ everyone. Its childish to keep a fight going that should have ended ages ago.
My point in saying that you shouldn't keep attacking Killa wasn't made to defend him, or to say I support the kinds of comments he's made towards people - my point is that all you guys accomplish by doing it, is you keep him coming back with more of the same comments.
Killa is "bad mannered", that means that he has been penalized for many of the things he has said - don't try to make it seem as if he's been favoured over anyone.
Do you think he would bother to keep coming back to rant if no one was slamming him ?
I'm sorry that you see it as me talking down, but I think its ridiculous that this is still an issue - it should be long forgotten by now, but people just keep firing it up.
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posted October 15, 2008 06:50 PM |
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Ughhhh... JapanGamer, I wasn't belittling or talking down to anyone...My comment was @ everyone. Its childish to keep a fight going that should have ended ages ago.
My point in saying that you shouldn't keep attacking Killa wasn't made to defend him, or to say I support the kinds of comments he's made towards people - my point is that all you guys accomplish by doing it, is you keep him coming back with more of the same comments.
Killa is "bad mannered", that means that he has been penalized for many of the things he has said - don't try to make it seem as if he's been favoured over anyone.
Do you think he would bother to keep coming back to rant if no one was slamming him ?
I'm sorry that you see it as me talking down, but I think its ridiculous that this is still an issue - it should be long forgotten by now, but people just keep firing it up.
Alright first off William makes sense and I now respect him. The "tru" was meant 100% to AGREE with pandora's statement(s). Most insecure people would take it differently, especially the way this japandude took it. japandude, you my friend are VERY insecure. I KNOW this for a FACT. You've been attacking me since the day I got back here. I've ignored you time and time again and you keep on gunning for me. I even took the time to read SOME of your posts while u were going back and forth with William, you make no sense dude, you're whole case is bogus. You seem paranoid and insecure. Secondly, I am not "bad mannered" but I have been [unjustly] penalized for 'many' of the things that I've said. As for my "rant" which I'm surprised at Pandora for calling it that, yeah if you guys would leave my alone when I'm doing nothing wrong then I won't 'attack' you. There is something that Pandora does have wrong tho, if I see someone slamming someone else unjustly I WILL be back to defend that person. It's my right to and I will excercise that right as long as I am living. Period.
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posted October 15, 2008 06:57 PM |
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I wont give it up.. sorry Who cares anyways? Killa is constantly attacking members of HC, who cares whether or not you see his one word thoughtful post as being an attack or not? It was construed to be by myself, the first two lines in Pandora post saying something along the lines of "leave killa alone, stop taking cheap shots on him, its unfair and accomplishes nothing, you are belittled your childish for taking cheap shots" Truuuuuu
I see it that way, dont tell me not to see it that way, I dont care how anyone else see's it. Its a low visibility cheap shot and theres a chance killa meant nothing by it, but theres more probability he smirked when he read pandoras message.
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I see it that way, dont tell me not to see it that way, I dont care how anyone else see's it. Its a low visibility cheap shot and theres a chance killa meant nothing by it, but theres more probability he smirked when he read pandoras message.
You see it that way, don't tell you not to see it that way? What if he's trying to help you because he's 100% POSITIVE you're seeing it the WRONG way. He shouldn't tell you to see it the right way? You don't care how anyone else "see's" (sees) it? It's a low visibility cheap shot? Are you an absolute psychopath? Are you on medication? Were you abused as a child? Do you abuse your children now? Answer these questions honestly.
There's a chance Killa meant nothing by it? A chance? I absolutely 100% did NOT mean ANYTHING malicious when I responded saying true. AT ALL. I did smirk at pandora's message when she wrote it. Not out of malice, but because I admired her courage to be righteous as a moderator. Unlike Elvin who is doing anything he is told to do by the "higher power" whether it's just or unjust. Alright insecure man? Go to a doctor, find religion, do something with yourself... you have mental issues and I'm NOT joking.
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posted October 15, 2008 07:11 PM |
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I volunteered for the position and nobody gave me orders or something. However I have duty to keep this place peaceful and clean which means I will occasionally have to delete spam or 'cheap shots'. When you join a forum you aknowledge that there is a set of rules to accept before posting. One way or another you have ignored them which is causing trouble either for you or others so think before attacking me - I'm only doing my job here. And defending oneself is a lot different than insulting back, you are the one responsible for your actions and nobody else.
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