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Heroes Community > Heroes 5 - Modders Workshop > Thread: [NCF Based] Mimic Crystal by Fauch
Thread: [NCF Based] Mimic Crystal by Fauch
Fauch
Fauch


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posted November 21, 2008 02:38 AM
Edited by VokialBG at 10:33, 28 Dec 2008.

[NCF Based] Mimic Crystal by Fauch

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basics

the New Creature Framework thread by sfidanza: http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=24698

project's web page: http://www.heroes-fr.com/en/new_creatures_framework.php

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stats & abilities

Mimic Crystal - Tier 5, Neutral. I don't know if it's balanced.

CREATURE_420 / CREATURE_CRYSTAL
power rating: 1600

Mimic Crystals are terrible traps imagined by the wizards. Judging by their appearance, they look like normal crystals, but they have their own will, ready to unleash the power of the lightning on whoever will fall for it.

att : 15
def : 20
dam : 10
speed : 0
ini : 14
HPs : 65
shots : 0
mana : 48
growth : 3

Costs 650 gold and 1 gem

Abilities : Elemental. Enchanted obsidian. Stormstrike. Aura of lightning vulnerability. Spellcaster (Chain Lightning Basic, Mana syphon, Invisibility)

Notes :
- Invisibility and mana syphon can be used 99 times
- Invisibility is used to attract enemies in the aura of lightning vulnerability (the crystal is immune to spells, and can't be targeted by shooters (except area attacks) while invisible)
- Casting spells doesn't remove the invisibility, forcing the enemies to rush.
- The crystal may strike itself with chain lightning. notice that he has enchanted obsidian and receives 50% more damage from lightning.
- Well, now it sounds totally imba

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screenshots


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download

unzip the following files in the heroes 5 tote directory.

mod in french :
http://myfreefilehosting.com/f/4008d3909a_0.25MB

mod in english :
http://myfreefilehosting.com/f/e61463b453_0.25MB


New version :
(damage 5, mana 32, lightning bolt basic added)

in french :
http://heroescommunity.com/filespace/file/Cristal%20arcane.zip

in english :
http://heroescommunity.com/filespace/file/Arcane%20crystal_1.zip

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Warmonger
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posted November 21, 2008 07:25 AM

I had a very imiliar idea, great you made it

However its graphical appearanmce could be a little more detailed, maybe some light & lightning effects?

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Azagal
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posted November 21, 2008 08:01 AM

15 initiative offensive caster with unlimited invisibility will be a pain oO. If a player should get his hands on these creeping will be history xD.

I like the idea however.
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alcibiades
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posted November 21, 2008 01:13 PM

I think this creature is quite innovative - crazy, but innovative. The skill combo is utterly nasty but has some great synergy effects. I think 48 Mana is too much, however - it does almost seem to make the Siphon Mana thing superfluous, even with repeated castings of Chain Lightning.
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Azagal
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posted November 21, 2008 02:16 PM

Ohh~~~ silly me I didn't see it had a speed = 0! Sure then it won't ruin creeping.
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Asheera
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posted November 21, 2008 02:20 PM

This one's a pretty innovative creature

One question: Does the AI use it properly and smart?
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posted November 21, 2008 02:35 PM
Edited by Fauch at 14:41, 21 Nov 2008.

Quote:
One question: Does the AI use it properly and smart?

I don't know

Quote:
However its graphical appearanmce could be a little more detailed, maybe some light & lightning effects?

only when it is attacking.

Quote:
Ohh~~~ silly me I didn't see it had a speed = 0! Sure then it won't ruin creeping


actually I was also interested in 0 attack and 0 damage, but chain lightning won't hurt some creatures.

btw, do you think it's too powerful? the initiative is actually 14.

Quote:
I think this creature is quite innovative - crazy, but innovative

actually I already made a quite similar creature, the guardian idol. except the guardian was uber defensive, while the crystal is more offensive.

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zamfir
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posted November 21, 2008 03:24 PM

Nevertheless, I like the concept very much. I bet it's a funny creature to play with.
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posted November 21, 2008 04:04 PM

Quote:
One question: Does the AI use it properly and smart?

I did 2 tests and it's weird.
the 1st thing they do is turn invisible, and then they wait until you get near them (until here it seems quite logical) but they never use chain lightning. they prefer striking a ancient treant with 19 damage and receive a retaliation rather than inflicting a few hundreds of damage with chain lightning.

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posted November 21, 2008 04:31 PM

That's Nival's AI for you.

Problem is probably that the retaliation stroke from Chain Lightning will do more damage to the Crystal, and program is not made to handle the fact that Enchanted Obsidian will actually heal it.

A bit like when you take Magnetic Golems into Elemental Stockpiles and the Water Elementals keep blasting them with Ice Bolts.
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posted November 21, 2008 04:43 PM
Edited by Fauch at 16:56, 21 Nov 2008.

lol. it makes me think of final fantasy 12. when I have the demonic shield and the AI keeps casting dark attacks while I absorb them.
well, I tried to position my creature to let the crystal an opportunity to use chain lightning without striking themselves. and they didn't use it.

or maybe the chain lightning strikes 5 stacks? I think it's 4.

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posted November 21, 2008 07:03 PM

Chain Lightning strikes 4 stacks.

It seems the Nival AI sucks yet again and doesn't use Chain Lightning.
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zamfir
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posted November 21, 2008 07:34 PM
Edited by zamfir at 19:34, 21 Nov 2008.

Nival AI always sucks...
My modding knowledge is inexistent, so I am allowed to put a silly question: "Can you script the AI?"
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Vlaad
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posted November 21, 2008 07:39 PM

Great stuff! What about some other spell then...?

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zamfir
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posted November 21, 2008 07:49 PM

Like what? Blade Barrier?
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posted November 21, 2008 08:46 PM
Edited by Fauch at 14:25, 09 Dec 2008.

I'm working on a V1.1
I'm thinking of adding lightning bolt, so the AI will at least do something.
also, I will reduce the damage to 5 I think, I completely forgot that stormstrike doubles the damage on the primary target.

new version :
lightning bolt basic added, mana 32 and damage 5 (forgot that storm strike double the damage)

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