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Thread: Random maps generated with template S3-5P2-8Z8K2M. Questions and answers. This thread is 2 pages long: 1 2 · «PREV
infinitus
infinitus


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posted December 24, 2008 11:21 AM
Edited by infinitus at 11:43, 24 Dec 2008.

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So not ONLY does Infinitus not wanna fight on the 2m random map with normal mortal heroes...

Jinxer, we don't have one single game finished with you, why do you continue to accuse me, if you don't know me at all ? Then i was newbie on TOH you proposed me game on your map Battlezone ... In 3 turns i say to you (i was polite ...) - map is too complex to me as a newbie and i feel doomed to play vs you ... So i surrender .... You response was - if you surrender, you must report this game ... Nice attitude, you have Jinxer for newbies coming to TOH, don't you think ?
My last game on 2m i play Jhora, it's too powerful hero for you too ? You can't win vs Jhora too ?

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but now come to find out... he spends most of the game.. not even fighting at all.. just skipping all the hard stuff.    Too Funny!

Again, do you have paranoia Jinxer ? We played game and you seen me jumping all game ? Please people of TOH, ho seen me skipping hard stuff, post here.  I have many games on 2m, in all this games i used instant travel two times, one time to not loose 5 days to get artefact. Another time i used instant travel on month 2 to jump to opponent zone, all border guards at this time was dead ... More details coming soon on benefits of using instant travel on 2m in first post of topic.


 
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Jinxer
Jinxer


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posted December 24, 2008 04:16 PM
Edited by Jinxer at 17:11, 24 Dec 2008.

@ Infinitus....


Ofcourse I make you report if you wanna quit game. I dont even remember the game... but my guess is... that I didnt let you pick Ossir or some power hero.. so you was lost and unable to compete and lost your army week 1.  And to be honest.. BattleZone is a week 6 map.. so giving up on day 4 is silly. Plenty of time to regroup...


Anyways... Instant Travel/DDoor has been AUTO banned every since Heroes 3.  I cannot remember the last game in 10 years of play heroes that I played in any game where it was used. AND ESPECIALLY on random maps.   I wonder how many of your games that you was using Instant travel during game... that your opponent was thinking all along that it was banned.  As I said.. Instant Travel has been auto banned for AGES... I dont even mention it as a rule at start of game.. its an obvious assumption that any serious player wouldnt use it.  The guards are there for a REASON! You are supposed to use some skill and fight them. There strength is based on how soon the map wants you to obtain the treasures behind them or pass into next zone etc... and using instant travel is almost like cheating lol... the fact that its part of game... is silly enough... I think its there mainly for campaigns. But has no place in a tournament class community.

The reason it seems like I am always attacking you... is because you take every chance you get to attack any comments I make or my map designs... crying about imbalances and this shouldnt be banned blah blah... yet the ONLY way you can and do play is if you can use every one of the TOP most known imbalanced/silly things in this game.

And for the record... I laugh again in your general direction at your comment that " I suppose Jhora is power hero too? "  LMAO.. Havez and Jhora are the 2 best heroes in Acadamy.  Havez is the power Might hero... Jhora is the power Magic hero.. since she gets to cast 3 times to opponents once lol...

Bottom line.. Please throw the training wheels away man!!!!! Then once you have.. I will take your complaints about imbalances or banning serious.


*** Lets settle this like Men and take this outside Your not a newbie now.. So I challange you to game on BattleZone all random... And haggash is not banned.. Maybe you get lucky and get her.
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Elvin
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posted December 24, 2008 06:27 PM

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Jhora is the power Magic hero.. since she gets to cast 3 times to opponents once lol...

False, her bonus is far from substantial.
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posted December 24, 2008 06:53 PM
Edited by infinitus at 19:15, 24 Dec 2008.

Example of positive use of instant travel - random map, two exits heavily guarded by mags/ranged units combo. Stronghold and Haven will use medic tent + triple balista+flaming arrow to pass, Necro raise dead. For Sylvan is no way to pass fast this, only way it's to quick creep start zone, reach level 15 and we ready to fly.  On 2m border guard give ~ 5000 xp. I will be glad if my opponent will not kill his border guard and will leave for me potential +5000 xp. Also player that breach the border guard have advantage anyway - he get experience from killing guard, no problems to get reinforcements and he can use scoots to take resources in new zone.
Another usage is to skip accusations like that - of cos you won your entrance to this zone was guarded by melee, mine by mags ...

To Jinxer - let's say your Sylvan opponent was unlucky and get as border guard mages, and don't get resurrection, regeneration spells. Do you prefer auto win for you, or to allow him to use instant travel ?

Instant travel ban for ages ? I seen TOH veterans using instant travel in game wiht me ...
I have the feelings 75% of game futures are in auto ban in your games ...
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posted December 25, 2008 12:03 AM

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I have the feelings 75% of game futures are in auto ban in your games ...


Nope... Only auto ban rules for me are following...

- No Instant Travel  (need not even mention this.)
- No Divine Vengeance
- No Mentoring

These are the only rules I need when playing.. far from 75%


I notice you avoided responding to my challange.
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infinitus
infinitus


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posted December 25, 2008 12:14 AM

On 2m anytime
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posted December 25, 2008 06:19 AM
Edited by Jinxer at 07:10, 25 Dec 2008.

I said.. lets settle this like MEN...  Not little boys using there training wheels haha  j/k
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infinitus


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posted December 25, 2008 07:26 AM

Ok, like i said i was polite in our 3 turn game... I was Ossir (i remember your comment - hi Ossir, nice looking), and i not suicide, i just not like your map Battlezone (crap surealistic look, million of teleports etc ...). Genesis have match better look, i think best looking custom map at the moment, credits to you Jinxer ...

Y, Jinxer, stop using training wheel, game fool or rules are not real game this is training wheel. I play real game - no rule. You know well, we will not play soon, so stop spread flame in this topic. Please no drama, MSN is for that ...  
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posted December 25, 2008 07:48 AM

You are right... no drama.. I will say no more.. Cant flame in MSN either anyways... you are no longer on my msn list.

Ok back on topic..............
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Elit
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posted December 25, 2008 08:50 AM

lol ty for all this post Jinxer and Infinitus. Was fun to read it with my morning coffee

About arguments. Jinxer is right ONLY about Instant Travel. I'm not agree my oponents on random map to use it. Good example is Sylvan. He can creep faster from all other races with easy upgrade arcane archers (2 wood mines) so he will pass 1st lvl 15 and can start fly and get what he not deserve from second zones. If you want to out from your zone kill guard or die. No excuses.

About all other comments from Jinxer i disagree.

BZ is complex map Jinxer. If your oponent play it for 1st time he have zero chances. Maybe you can be polie and give Infinitus chance to choice your and his race and go random heroes ?


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infinitus


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posted December 25, 2008 09:40 AM

Elit, you must play more games on 2m, cos i see you are a bit incompetent in 2m knowledge Only 1 wood mine on 2m. On 1m, yes, 2 mines, 2 dwellings level 3 - very good map for Sylvan. I think fastest on creep on 2m are orcs and haven, easy access to war machines. And with medic tent + balista they pass border guard before level 15. So is still faster compared to Sylvan with instant travel jump. Also to get instant travel player need magic guild level 4 (or level 3, not remember), this mean you must build magic guild and skip some dwellings. This is equal to loose some troops in battle ....
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If you want to out from your zone kill guard or die. No excuses.

Sound so cruel

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posted February 10, 2009 11:25 AM
Edited by infinitus at 07:35, 25 Nov 2009.

25.11.2009 Main post updated, added scheme of 2m template
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