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Heroes Community > Tavern of the Rising Sun > Thread: Something to Think about!@
Thread: Something to Think about!@ This thread is 2 pages long: 1 2 · «PREV
Tristan
Tristan


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posted January 08, 2002 09:49 PM

I agree that many seek not knowledge, but a way to prove what they have already decided is true.  One thing to keep in mind though, is that just because someone argues with you as you try to present knowledge to them, does not mean they are unwilling to accept new ideas.  I know that I will argue, waiting to see if they can convince me, and have found that many with new ideas are unwilling to go into them in depth.  Perhaps they fear being found wrong?
I will argue almost anything from either side if I can, just to make the whole thing more considered.  Who knows, sometimes I may be wrong!
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RMS
RMS


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-ing yummy foods
posted January 09, 2002 12:35 AM

...I didn't even give my stance on the quote, and what I feel...I simply interperprated what I thought it meant...but anyway, since you brought it up, what does that have to do with laziness? Ok, maybe that can be one factor to consider, but also have I ever said lazy people were bad? Contributions to the world come from just about anywhere...however, in my view, that was not at all what hte quote meant...
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Romana
Romana


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Thx :D
posted January 10, 2002 07:08 PM

Well exquize me RMS...My bad
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Hexa
Hexa


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posted January 18, 2002 11:05 AM

He why did the discussion here stop?@
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jiels
jiels


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LFM C'thun, pst.
posted January 18, 2002 12:06 PM
Edited By: jiels on 18 Jan 2002

Perhaps it stopped because the tavern doesn't attract the deep thinkers?  Or maybe everyone agrees with the statement?  *shrug*

What would you like to see here Hexa?  I could argue both for and against that statement as others have said as well.  Would you like to read an argument for or against Lestat's view?  The reason I have not responded is because of it seems futile.  I don't think an examination of this statement will accomplish anything worthwhile other then making a select few feel like they are intelligent.  

And you should consider the context of the statment, Lestat was all about apathy.  This is not so much a philisophical statement as it is Lestat's world view (opinion).

jiels (is bored again )

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RMS
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posted January 18, 2002 12:42 PM

...I just figured that since I was starting to talk to myself, I'de stop while I was ahead
...hmm, I guess I might as well post my response to this afterall, seeing as I rarely see anything I want to post to anymore...when I get time today
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jiels
jiels


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LFM C'thun, pst.
posted January 18, 2002 12:55 PM

I'd be interested in your reply RMS.  You were saying a lot of what I thought when I read this.  It might be interesting to see where you would take this, but then again, this is coming from a bored person.

jiels (dum de dum)  

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Ghost_of_Lor...
Ghost_of_LordTitan


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posted June 22, 2002 08:20 PM

Why did you want to share this with us?
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CraigHack
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posted June 22, 2002 10:41 PM

Quote:
"Very few beings really seek knowledge in this world... On the contrary, they try to wring from the unknown the answers they have already shaped in their own minds - justifications, confirmations, forms of consolation without which they can't go on. To really ask is to open the door to a whirlwind. The answer may annihilate the question and the questioner."
Anne Rice, The Vampire Lestat





The quote is right on the money as long as we remember that Lestat is speaking of subjective knowledge. Lets eliminate the Objective by saying that the quote is meaningless when discussing currently provable scientific fact. (One + one = two for all ordinary human purposes).

Subjective knowledge is a totally different thing! We are now talking about the (currently) unprovable and unknowable. Religion for example. It's a belief system. And indeed.... "The answer may annihilate the question and the questioner".

I may believe in a supreme being and absolutely despise organized religion. Another may believe in the bible word for word as a spiritually inspired document. Another may believe in nothing. They may all be right... or they may all be wrong!!

Each person must find a path that is correct for them to travel in life. Probably we can refer to it as a personal philosophy. (My life will be more complete and meaningful if I believe and act according to this set of personal rules). This is good but we should always remember that this is not knowledge as defined.

One mans religion may be the exact equal of another mans philosophy. It would simply be the difference in the relative need for a supreme being.

I think Anne Rice is a brilliant writer, her genre is vampires and thats ok with me. I enjoy her books. It matters not whether or not there are, or have ever been, vampires. I can assure you that many people throughout history have lived their entire lives firmly believing that there are vampires, and for them... Vampires existed!

Or... Be careful what you believe in!!

W.C. Fields once said; "Every man should believe in something, I believe I'll have another drink".




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Dingo
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posted November 24, 2003 06:14 AM

Quote:
Since I couldn't locate RMS's thread L'Académie anymore I will start something similar.


I've Located it for you!

http://www.heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?FID=3&TID=2673
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