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Heroes Community > Heroes 3.5 - WoG and Beyond > Thread: DefTool v3.2
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GrayFace
GrayFace


Promising
Known Hero
posted September 27, 2009 04:24 PM
Edited by GrayFace at 06:10, 05 Oct 2009.

DefTool v3.2.1

Version 3.2.1 changes:
[-] Reposition could mess up pictures
Version 3.2 changes:
[+] Transparent color can be chosen automatically
[+] Chosen group of cadres is animated if the General tab is selected
[-] Compression of 32*32 map pictures without palette was set to 1 instead of 0
[-] "Make .msk and .msg files" didn't work
[-] Long .hdl def lists weren't loaded properly

http://sites.google.com/site/sergroj/wog

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Salamandre
Salamandre


Admirable
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Wog refugee
posted September 27, 2009 05:01 PM

Thanks. I only have a dilemma about sizes. If the object is 256 width it almost always goes out of grid and crashes the game. It seems the max width is 224, not 256. For height 256 is always ok.
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T2_2112
T2_2112


Supreme Hero
posted September 27, 2009 05:35 PM

Thanks, i love this one and DefPreview. They help me a lots

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gnollking
gnollking


Supreme Hero
posted September 27, 2009 05:38 PM

Quote:
[-] "Make .msk and .msg files" didn't work

You mean that it should not work with this version? I works fine with me. It makes the .msk and .msg files correctly.
Or you mean it is fixed for this version?
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T2_2112
T2_2112


Supreme Hero
posted September 27, 2009 05:40 PM

Quote:
Quote:
[-] "Make .msk and .msg files" didn't work

You mean that it should not work with this version? I works fine with me. It makes the .msk and .msg files correctly.
Or you mean it is fixed for this version?


[+] that mean new fuction
[-] that mean bugs fixed

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gnollking
gnollking


Supreme Hero
posted September 27, 2009 05:44 PM
Edited by gnollking at 18:55, 29 Sep 2009.

Quote:
[-] that mean bugs fixed


Ok.
I tried it, and:



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solitaire345
solitaire345


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Famous Hero
posted September 29, 2009 09:11 PM
Edited by solitaire345 at 21:23, 29 Sep 2009.

that's cool.. creating defs became something simple now

DEF/MSG/MSK files if you want them
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Salamandre
Salamandre


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Wog refugee
posted September 29, 2009 09:57 PM

Have you found some animations? From which game it is from? I am looking for nature animated mostly, fountains, statues, waterfalls.
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Vlaad
Vlaad


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ghost of the past
posted September 29, 2009 10:54 PM
Edited by Vlaad at 23:03, 29 Sep 2009.

That's Age of Wonders, a great Heroes-like game. Disciples 2 could be a great source too. Also other H3 graphics, of course. But I must admit I kind of gave up because it seems we don't know how to introduce blank artifacts, at least those who know don't share it...














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Salamandre
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Wog refugee
posted September 29, 2009 11:57 PM

There is a way to introduce 3200 new artefacts, I have the script but still looking at it to figure how's working. Until that, my approach is the same as for creatures: replace the existent ones for mods/unique maps purpose. A database is needed for those who can script/mod.

Others will just cry the new graphics do not fit well in HoMM, but that's all they can do.
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Salamandre
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Wog refugee
posted September 30, 2009 09:38 AM

I got AOW 1 and 2 and an ILB reader. However it does not fix the background to transparent. Has anyone a tool for changing the background before importing? Solitaire, what program you used?
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solitaire345
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posted September 30, 2009 02:42 PM

actually that was gif image on the web, which i copied, changed to bmp and made into def.
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GrayFace
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posted October 03, 2009 05:03 AM
Edited by GrayFace at 05:04, 03 Oct 2009.

Quote:
There is a way to introduce 3200 new artefacts, I have the script but still looking at it to figure how's working.

It 'moves' internal structure(s) and changes things limits/addresses in game code. So, the only way to understand how it works is to disassemble WoG executable and study it.

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Salamandre
Salamandre


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Wog refugee
posted October 03, 2009 07:12 AM
Edited by Salamandre at 07:13, 03 Oct 2009.

Good to hear, so I can already give up for now. I was wandering where to place that script, now it is clear. Beyond my skills.
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gnollking
gnollking


Supreme Hero
posted October 03, 2009 08:07 PM
Edited by gnollking at 20:11, 03 Oct 2009.

I really love this tool . I have already started a map with my new objects:




Here are some pics of the map:



Yes, i made 6 new special grounds, 14 trees, 16 mountains, 1 waterfall, + lots of objects .
Btw, all of them are from HoMM 4

@EDIT, you can download some of them here:

http://wogtreasurechest.dbv.pl/downloads.php?cat_id=3

http://wogtreasurechest.dbv.pl/downloads.php?cat_id=3

Mitabrin has all of my objects and he will propably upload them all sometime
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Salamandre
Salamandre


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Wog refugee
posted October 03, 2009 08:26 PM

Very nice, but your files does not provide a new Zeobjts.txt, thus the object will not be available to anyone, unless he knows how to edit it.
I think it is bad idea to release objects one by one without the right config. Better extract all you need, make a new Zeobjts and upload all as a stand alone patch.
I still searching for a H4 res viewer. My resedit only shows animations with black background and distorted window. Can you upload your tool?
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gnollking
gnollking


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posted October 03, 2009 08:36 PM
Edited by gnollking at 20:39, 03 Oct 2009.

I have the same ResEdit as you have. I just look the objects with it, and take a photo of it with HyperSnap, then edit the photo (make it right size and add the light-blue background).
And yes, making a large .wog file would be better, but i don't how how to do one.. I have about 30-40 objects from heroes 4, please, can you tell me how to do the .wog file

@EDIT, it takes time to do animated objects from Heroes 4.. And i don't know how to edit the Zeobjts.txt..
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Salamandre
Salamandre


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Wog refugee
posted October 03, 2009 08:41 PM

Ouch, thats a long process to take a snapshoot then resize. Resizing a pics will lower object quality. It has to be some H4 viewer out here, I think Cepheus has one.

For .wog file, it is not hard. wog is same compression as .rar, so just compress .rar and rename to .wog. For what is inside, just download my patch and extract all text files from it. Delete all my defs names and add yours. Without a .wog file none can use your objects.
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gnollking
gnollking


Supreme Hero
posted October 03, 2009 08:54 PM

It's a long process to do that to animated ones, but not that long for 1 picture.

First, I take a photo of the Quick View:


Then, I change it's colours and resize it:


At the beginning, i resized the Quick View to a good looking size, then took the photo. Took only 5 minutes to do the bmp.
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Salamandre
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Wog refugee
posted October 03, 2009 09:05 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 21:05, 03 Oct 2009.

You should then download Gadwin printscreen tool.

it resize it self the snapshoot to what you want in size, so the pic is not changed. A very useful tool.
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