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War-overlord
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posted December 26, 2010 12:36 PM |
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Yeah but remember that they had a treaty with the Griffen Empire, so they can't be all bad.
Yes they can. The treaty was made because Realag had a crush on Isabel. And Realag isn't the best of dudes either.
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They are simplistic, categorising Necropolis has to take into account the widely disparate views of Markal and Arantir.
True, however both were evil even though Arantir's goal wasn't. Markal was certainly evil, throwing 3-4 countries into war just to pursue his own vengeance and dominance.
Arantir is still evil. He wants to save the world from Demons, that's not bad. But he wipes out everything that's in his path and he made a bloodsacrifice of Stonehelm, just so he could open a gate to Sheogh. Arantir would have masacred the entire world to save it from the demons.
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Besides in H5, Biara posing as Isabel could corrupt only so many of them, all the rest of the Griffin Empire's army (save for Duncan's Duchy and Godric's knights), willingly followed their orders and commited all of these atrocities against their own people.
For a society that values law and order above all, that's actually not that evil. To the soldiers of the Griffin Empire "Befehl ist Befehl". They would be more evil in their own eyes if they disobeyed orders.
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Most obviously Stronghold
Stronghold isn't evil. They are neutral. The Orcs want to be left alone most of all. They are a warrior-culture and perhaps even animalistic/barberic, but they aren't evil. Sure they held a "who"-can-take-the-most-skull-Contest", but the Ravenduchy provoked retribution for enslaving tribes of Orcs.
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Orfinn
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posted December 26, 2010 02:37 PM |
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Oh, realy? Cause I got the impression that the Dark Elves would put a dagger 'tween your ribs for a nickle and think nothing of it. They seemed to charactarised as lying, thieving, assasinating oppertunists.
Yeah but remember that they had a treaty with the Griffen Empire, so they can't be all bad.
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Good and Evil are not simplistic IMO, but they are rather subjective.
They are simplistic, categorising Necropolis has to take into account the widely disparate views of Markal and Arantir.
Oh and Orfinn, those aren't just twisting the stereotypes, they're shredding them. Mine would be more like:
Haven - Despotic Tyrants supported by a psychotic priesthood.
Sylvan - Ultra-xenophobic forest dwellers prepared to kill anyone who they see as even slightly dangerous to their forest homes.
Academy - Elitist intellectuals who think that everyone not as smart as them needs their guidance, and should be thankful for it.
Necropolis - Communistic wizards who seek to overthrow Haven and Academy and introduce some decent human rights. They use undead troops because they feel that the living should not have to suffer the horrors of war.
Dungeon - Peace-seeking animists prepared to open their doors to any oppressed people or beasts they come across.
Fortress - Gold-obsessed capitalists who care more for profit than for people.
Stronghold - Peaceful but physical people who only want to get on with their lives and hate anyone who tries to take advantage of them.
Inferno - Mad magicians who think that the world would be a better place if magic was conquered and put to work like animals or machines.
Your version are more like an exeggerated update on what the factions really are. Mine tries to have NOTHING to do with real world paralells or any connections to what H5 factions are. Though you are right on your clear definition on how the factions of H5 could be linked to real-life rule sets etc.
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blighboy
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posted December 27, 2010 06:18 AM |
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Mythologies change over time. Hell, look at the old testament. I don't see people asking for christianity/judaism to go back to its roots.
For the same as above, I don't have a problem with someone putting a new spin on the Tolkienesque elves prominent in Fantasy nowadays, but at the same time, I see no reason to change it for the sake of changing it, or because you felt like Norse elves were better than modern elves.
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