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Darkshadow
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posted January 22, 2012 10:27 AM |
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Megavideo had a stoopid limit and megaupload sucked anyway.
Nothing of value was lost.
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del_diablo
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Manifest
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posted January 22, 2012 01:50 PM |
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Lets see:
-The entire XDA devs resource archive was lost(perhaps 2-3% will be reuploaded?)
-Privat backup for about 3% of the internetts population was lost
-This also puts the safety of Dropbox and Mediafire at risk, which will hamper the migration to the cloud and communties hosting.
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Vindicator
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Right Back Extraordinaire
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posted January 22, 2012 03:41 PM |
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That being said, I think that pretty much anyone who uses the Internet thinks that SOPA is a bad idea, so there's pretty much no way this bill is going to pass.
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Seraphim
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Knowledge Reaper
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posted January 22, 2012 04:35 PM |
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Edited by Seraphim at 16:41, 22 Jan 2012.
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That being said, I think that pretty much anyone who uses the Internet thinks that SOPA is a bad idea, so there's pretty much no way this bill is going to pass.
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Nocturnal
Promising
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posted January 23, 2012 02:16 PM |
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I've no knowledge on how the American law works. In Turkey, it's like a monarchy. If the Prime Minister doesn't want a thing, it doesn't happen. If he wants, it happens.
So Obama said, he would reject it. But it can be accepted and put to action although the President rejects it?
And why does a US law affect all the world? They can't put bans on non-US websites, games, etc., right?
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Darkshadow
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posted January 23, 2012 02:31 PM |
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And why does a US law affect all the world? They can't put bans on non-US websites, games, etc., right?
Except the English speaking world (the likes of UK) will bend over backwards for the us.
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Corribus
Hero of Order
The Abyss Staring Back at You
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posted January 23, 2012 03:14 PM |
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Edited by Corribus at 15:14, 23 Jan 2012.
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So Obama said, he would reject it. But it can be accepted and put to action although the President rejects it?
The president has the ability to veto any bill that has passed both houses of Congress (House and Senate), thereby preventing it from becoming law. However Congress can override a presidential veto with (totally stretching my memory here) a 2/3 vote. I think there's a time limit also that the president has (maybe a week or ten days or something like that) to sign a bill into law, after which it becomes law without his signature.
Final point to note is that the president only has authority over federal law. State laws are passed without presidential consideration, obviously, but most governors, who sign into law state bills, have veto power as well.
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And why does a US law affect all the world? They can't put bans on non-US websites, games, etc., right?
No, but what company - most of which are based in the US - in its right mind is going to abandon the US market?
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del_diablo
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Manifest
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posted January 23, 2012 09:27 PM |
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And why does a US law affect all the world? They can't put bans on non-US websites, games, etc., right?
Affected:
-Paypal, etc...
-.com domains, possibly .net and .edu and .org
-Any interaction with google, yahoo, bing or any US based search engines and all companies with a branch in USA
-Any international bank with a office in USA, and all US banks that are international
So basically the problem is not that it directly kills the sites, it kills it indirectly.
Merly by removing it from googles index it is effectivly killed. And beyond that image that it can't even get add revenue, and all donation forms are blocked off except normal banking. All donations from any bank with a US office is also a problem.
So basically it allows you to directly kill a site, without enabling it to reply and get the case solved before a week has passed.
What it will turn the procedure into:
1. Complaint letter is sent to various organisations(google, paypal, banks, US controlled DNS)
2. Site loses all revenue and links, and the reply to the takedown are not forced to be heed(most likely will never be heed)
3. And that leaves you with going to court. That has 2 problems:
*Submitting yourself to US juridstriction
*You have to open the court case, as the attacker, and prove that you are not guilty, a process that takes anything from several months to several years
Btw: Lets not forget ACTA folks.....
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Darkshadow
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posted January 23, 2012 09:28 PM |
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Hasn't ACTA been spinning on the table for forever already? 
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Nocturnal
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posted January 23, 2012 09:55 PM |
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Thanks for the information. I now see why this is so huge a problem.
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del_diablo
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Manifest
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posted January 24, 2012 01:49 PM |
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Hasn't ACTA been spinning on the table for forever already?
It has, but it can still be passed, because the EUmenn critters are well critters and not people who knows how tech today works.
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Shyranis
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posted February 28, 2012 02:02 PM |
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Something interesting:
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Darkshadow
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Cerise Princess
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posted April 04, 2012 04:57 PM |
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SOPA has apparently changed it's name to CISPA.
So, when is it time to start using guns instead of site blackouts to discourage these idiots?
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The_Polyglot
Promising
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Nuttier than squirrel poo
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posted April 04, 2012 05:06 PM |
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What has the Cayman Islands Society of Professional Accountants got to do with Internet censorship? 
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master_learn
Legendary Hero
walking to the library
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posted September 05, 2012 07:35 PM |
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I appreciate my internet freedom.
I have relatives,who work in USA and hope these subjects to not be forgotten,so that my relatives enjoy at least a part of my freedom as non-american.
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