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Doomforge
Admirable
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posted June 24, 2012 02:38 PM |
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Leveling pace
I've been playing some Homm4 at lan lately (with equilibris, ofc) and got kinda annoyed about the leveling pace... I mean, come on, there's just so many skills, spells... and it takes forever to even get to a grandmaster at a single skill tree. I guess they gave us five just as a tease 
I'd sort of prefer to level up faster.. you know, so my barbarian can actually learn combat and tactics and not just be stuck at having both poorly developed until game ends 
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master_learn
Legendary Hero
walking to the library
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posted June 24, 2012 03:54 PM |
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Thats the boosters of magic or non-magic abilities are for.
If you would get enough abilities without them,poorer the game will be,I think!
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Warmonger
Promising
Legendary Hero
fallen artist
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posted June 24, 2012 04:36 PM |
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But 100 skill slots keep things interesting even on most epic maps, where you can level up almost idefinitelly. There will never be a point whene "I have maxed hero and can do everything". There's always a place for improvement.
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master_learn
Legendary Hero
walking to the library
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posted June 24, 2012 05:34 PM |
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AFAIK,in H4 the skills are 25(I mean in the hero screen)
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Doomforge
Admirable
Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
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posted June 24, 2012 06:44 PM |
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Anyone willing to direct me to epic maps where I can get 2-3 skill trees at least? 
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master_learn
Legendary Hero
walking to the library
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posted June 24, 2012 07:31 PM |
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Doomforge,what kind of H4 maps you play?
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Vlaad
Admirable
Legendary Hero
ghost of the past
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posted June 24, 2012 08:46 PM |
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Have you tried some of these? Or these? Full reviews here.
In my opinion, H4 shines in multiplayer on S and M maps and in singleplayer on L and XL maps.
In multiplayer I'd focus on getting your starting skill to GM and ignore other skills, including the fourth slot (e.g. Tactics and Leadership). There are exceptions, of course; you might want to go for GM Necromancy for example.
Finally, try to capitalize on one of H4's strongest points: multiple heroes.
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Doomforge
Admirable
Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
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posted June 24, 2012 11:07 PM |
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Doomforge,what kind of H4 maps you play?
"the bigger, the better"
@Vlaad, I'll check those, thanks. On multiple heroes, doesn't it slow down GM even further? I always play with a single hero in MP 
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Vlaad
Admirable
Legendary Hero
ghost of the past
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posted June 24, 2012 11:33 PM |
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It depends on the map, but you should be able to cover more ground and fight more neutrals with multiple heroes.
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fauch
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted June 25, 2012 05:32 PM |
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it's easier to get several skills at gm with several heroes than with only one. since you need less XP to level up at the lowest levels. it's also better to have several heroes mastering several magics instead of one super hero, since you can cast more spells per turn.
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Doomforge
Admirable
Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
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posted June 27, 2012 01:09 PM |
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well, no wonder I suck at this game
I kinda thought getting GM something (like, say, your prime magic school) + GM combat is the way. Since GM combat makes you durable enough to cast spells  I remember how my friend simply fragged my caster with water elementals' icebolt in the first turn. ouch. I wished for GM spell resistance back then
Perhaps a general+2 mages would be a better strategy?
Also, please, post the best maps (XL type) if you can.
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Ghost
Undefeatable Hero
Therefore I am
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posted June 27, 2012 01:25 PM |
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Warmonger
Promising
Legendary Hero
fallen artist
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posted June 27, 2012 03:22 PM |
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master_learn
Legendary Hero
walking to the library
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posted June 27, 2012 07:53 PM |
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You may like the map "Against all odds" where when you have a castle underground you receive every week some level 4 monster for your army.
Or to have fun with the "Four Halflings of Apocalypse".
If you try "The world is not enough"-be sure to find a way to give army to your opponent.I mean in the map your main opponent cant explore and fight in order you to face him in battle as you expect.
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Doomforge
Admirable
Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
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posted June 27, 2012 09:52 PM |
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Thanks for the suggestions! easier maps also welcome, as I suck at Heroes IV atm
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fauch
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted June 27, 2012 11:33 PM |
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well, no wonder I suck at this game
I kinda thought getting GM something (like, say, your prime magic school) + GM combat is the way. Since GM combat makes you durable enough to cast spells I remember how my friend simply fragged my caster with water elementals' icebolt in the first turn. ouch. I wished for GM spell resistance back then
Perhaps a general+2 mages would be a better strategy?
Also, please, post the best maps (XL type) if you can.
I rarely had combat on my casters, I thought you needed too many level ups. I relied mostly on spells. well, water elemental are a problem since it's hard to prevent them from casting ice bolt, unless you kill them before. but if enemies can't reach you, you don't need combat.
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regnak
Tavern Dweller
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posted August 13, 2012 01:09 AM |
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Edited by regnak at 01:20, 13 Aug 2012.
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My personal favourite:
[url=http://www.heroesportal.net/maps.php?type=H4WW-XL&pagenum=2&lang=english]Chronic Peripeteia[/url].
I think it's not only the best H4 map, but the very best Heroes map ever. Passed it many times and even worked on improved hardcore version.
How do you deal with the AI having a Legion of Angels? And scores of super catapults in the 3rd order town? This was fun for awhile but looks hopeless now.
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