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Heroes Community > Tavern of the Rising Sun > Thread: Shakespeare Kicks Ass!
Thread: Shakespeare Kicks Ass!
friendofgunnar
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posted June 25, 2012 08:02 AM

Shakespeare Kicks Ass!

okay this thread was inspired by Cor's post in the movie thread.
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I watched Coriolanus.  The movie was fantastic, and Ralph Fiennes turned up an incredible performance.  My chief gripe with it is the same I have for all Shakespearian plays-turned-movies that retain the original dialogue: the prose is beautiful but people don't speak that way any more.  For me it's very hard to follow the nuances of the language and plot, particularly for plays with which I'm not very familiar (and Coriolanus is not a play I've ever read).  In any artistic sense, I guess it would diminish it for the script to utilize modern english, but I think such movies would be far more entertaining and approachable if they did.



I've thought exactly the same thing about both Shakespeare's plays and also movies that keep his original english.  The 500 year old english is burdensome.  So the basic idea behind this thread is that we, as a group, will rewrite one of Shakespeare's plays with modern english.  We'll decide on a play and then we'll pick characters to play.  Every time you post you will take Shakespeare's lines and say it as a contemporary would.  At the end we should have a modern play.

First we'd need to pick a play, one that could be transplanted to modern life and still be believable.

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posted June 25, 2012 02:33 PM
Edited by Tsar-Ivor at 12:17, 26 Jun 2012.

I love Shakespeare's works, his ability to portray (accurately) human nature is inspirational, but I agree, the language was designed to convey this to the 17th century audience, not the 21st century ones, no wonder so many children (and adults might I add) hate the very idea of  Shakespeare.
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posted June 26, 2012 09:27 AM

okay thread died please vaporize

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posted June 26, 2012 11:51 AM
Edited by Tsar-Ivor at 12:17, 26 Jun 2012.

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no wonder so many children (and adults might I add) hate the very idea of Shakespeare.


Nuff said.
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Ghost
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posted June 26, 2012 12:14 PM

My ex-teacher said the same!

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posted January 21, 2014 09:16 PM

Whats your favourite tragedy and comedy?
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artu
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posted January 21, 2014 09:30 PM

From his tragedies, I like Macbeth and Julius Caesar. I would also say Hamlet but that is so praised all the time anyway, well the others arent exactly "underground literature" either

I'm not much into his comedies. Comedy gets outdated much faster and in a much more ruthless fashion.

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posted January 21, 2014 11:09 PM

Meh, people give him way toooo much credit, also, Im pretty sure he stole other people's work...

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posted January 21, 2014 11:27 PM

The kind of originality you expect was not the norm back in those days, you were expected to master your craft and seek for a predetermined perfection. The avant garde is a concept of the Post-Romantic Era. For instance, nobody went up to Goethe and said, "Doctor Faustus, but Marlowe already did that!"

There are on-going debates about Shakespeare's true identity, if it was one man who wrote all the plays, have the plays been edited afterwards... Probably most of them are just conspiracy theories and part of what comes with being a cultural icon.  The work itself is there anyway and definitely not overrated. Take the verses that goes "out out brief candle" from Macbeth for example, they are one of the most enduring, brilliantly written verses about human mortality, both simple and deep.  Of course, if English wasnt so widely common all over the world today, his legacy would be not as strong as it is now but when it comes to luck, that's just about it.

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posted January 24, 2014 08:27 AM

And Marlowe was not the first already...

I like Macbeth too. I like also The Merchant of Venice.

I also like the plays by Marlowe, how do you think, can he actually he old Will himself?
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posted January 24, 2014 11:38 AM

To tell you the truth, I don't remember much from Marlowe. I remember checking him out years ago but not the work itself.

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