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Vasilisa995
Vasilisa995


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posted June 12, 2014 04:34 AM
Edited by VOKIALBG at 07:53, 31 Jul 2014.

Night Sylvan (Project)

I'm thinking to make Sindorei (Night Sylvan) Faction for Heroes 5 Tribes of East.

I'll need some planning and need to find a program(s) which will allow to make this mod. I've got so far Wow Model Viewer.

This idea came to me as I was playing as my Sindorei Paladin in WoW.

So far I've been thinking on units-

Novice Hunter->Intermediate Hunter->Beast Mastery Hunter

Novice Priest->Intermediate Priest->Shadow Priest

Novice Rouge->Intermediate Rogue->Combat Rogue

Novice Mage->Intermediate Mage-> Arcane Mage

Novice Death Knight->Intermediate Death Knight->Frost Death Knight

Novice Blood Knight->Intermediate Blood Knight->Retribution Blood Knight

Red Dragonhawk->Gold Dragonhawk->Silver Dragonhawk

You are welcome to suggest other units as well.

With Heroes, it's going to be hard, but suggestions on Heroes are also welcome.

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Stevie
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posted June 12, 2014 10:09 AM

Well, good luck and keep this updated

There was another WoW project around here. Dunno what happened with it tho. Link

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Vasilisa995
Vasilisa995


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posted June 12, 2014 11:21 AM
Edited by Vasilisa995 at 12:41, 12 Jun 2014.

Stevie said:
Well, good luck and keep this updated

There was another WoW project around here. Dunno what happened with it tho. [url=http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=40126]Link[/url]


I'll do same project with Heroes 3 In the Wake of the Gods.

Blood Elves are my favourite. You just can't imagine how I prefer them over other races in WoW.

Update:Frost Death Knight and Retribution Blood Knight were planned to be cavalry units but the idea was scrapped due to that they would be large creatures. Besides, in WoW they fight on foot, not mounted. Also WoW Model Viewer is missing Hawkstrider models so I was not able to include Hawkstrider Ranger unit. I'll need time and certain programs to include these guys into the game. Warrior was be changed to Hunter, since Blood Elves could not be Warriors before Cataclysm. Also Dragonhawk Rider idea was scrapped. Warlock was planned but I had no male Sindorei Warlocks past level 50 on my account. Only 1 Warlock is actually level 20, so what's the point? No point at all. Models of Novice Mage, Novice Hunter, Novice Priest and Novice Rouge including their upgrades are changed. Models of Red Dragonhawk, Novice Blood Knight, Novice Death Knight and their upgrades are not changed due that I really like how I made them. I enjoyed making Models for Novice Blood Knight and his upgrades more than anyone can imagine.

I checked on that project and it looks like it was either stalled or it is being worked on . Also I plan to make abilities matching to their classes.

I'll need tips on what programs I will use while making abilities.


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Vasilisa995
Vasilisa995


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posted June 13, 2014 01:59 AM
Edited by Vasilisa995 at 06:14, 14 Jun 2014.

Update:

I came up with abilities of Arcane Mage-

Immunity to Water, Immunity to Fire, Spellcaster, Rival with Archmage, Teleport (Heroes 5 Version of WoW Mage's Blink). I plan to add summon Water Elemental Spell, since Mages in WoW summon this creature and also some damage dealing spells, like Circle of Winter and Icebolt.

Rival passive abilities are to show that some units in my Sindorei Faction Project are jealous of certain units from existing factions in Heroes 5.

Also Models of Novice Rouge and his upgrades are changed to almost original version. Screenshots are upcoming.

Dragonhawk Units are now replaced with Warlock units due to visual issues in WoW Model Viewer. I apologise for removing them, but I decided to add lady to this faction. I thought of having Demon Huntress, but this idea was also scrapped due that this class is not playable. Also I used wrong word as I checked in Google translator.

Now the list will look like this

Novice Hunter->Grand Hunter->Beast Mastery Hunter

Novice Priest->Grand Priest->Shadow Priest

Novice Rouge->Grand Rogue->Combat Rogue

Novice Mage->Grand Mage-> Arcane Mage

Novice Death Knight->Grand Death Knight->Frost Death Knight

Novice Blood Knight->Grand Blood Knight->Retribution Blood Knight

Novice Warlock->Grand Warlock->Demonology Warlock.

Blood Mage is planned but as neutral. He will have same abilities as Arcane Mage but he'll able to Summon Phoenix. Also Phoenix will have texture from WoW.

So much of work to do.

Character Model Files from WoW Model Viewer are not accepted by Map Editor so send me email to my email address, to help me to find out how I can import models I made into creatures already in Heroes 5 tribes of the east to create new units.

Thanks

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Hayven
Hayven


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posted June 14, 2014 10:41 AM

Maybe try to export them to .smd format? Then use the Archangel but it is not likely be easy anyway.

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Vasilisa995
Vasilisa995


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posted June 15, 2014 01:26 AM
Edited by Vasilisa995 at 01:04, 18 Jun 2014.

It'll take me several days and I'll ask help from my friend to do this.


Update:

Now this faction has small description-

Survivors of Scourge invasion of Quel'thalas on their home world, these elves followed their Prince, Kael'thas Sunstrider to Outland, but after his siding with Demons was revealed, they traveled to Ashan, using portal and settled close to Irollan. Will other races of Ashan welcome these elven outsiders? Or will they hate them because of their addiction to magic and dark ways?

Also I gave wrong name to Frost Death Knight. Also model will be changed.

This should be final list of units for faction. I'll keep re-checking that list at all times.

Novice Hunter->Grand Hunter->Survival Hunter

Novice Priest->Grand Priest->Shadow Priest

Novice Rouge->Grand Rogue->Combat Rogue

Novice Mage->Grand Mage-> Arcane Mage

Novice Death Knight->Grand Death Knight->Blood Death Knight

Novice Blood Knight->Grand Blood Knight->Retribution Blood Knight

Novice Warlock->Grand Warlock->Demonology Warlock.  

Please feel free to suggest heroes. Some will not be accepted, like Kael'thas and Lana'thel due that they are villains.
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Warmonger
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posted June 16, 2014 08:36 AM
Edited by Warmonger at 08:36, 16 Jun 2014.

Why is this "project" any better than another 543 towns proposed on this forum so far?
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Vasilisa995
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posted June 16, 2014 10:49 AM

There is someone who is also doing WoW project. This is my own. I'm working on town and abilities of creatures. It'll take me time.
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Vasilisa995
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posted June 18, 2014 01:07 AM

Update:Soundtrack for town was chosen. It's from Warcraft 3 Frozen Throne. I'll be working on both town and abilities soon enough.
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xerox
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posted June 18, 2014 01:11 AM
Edited by xerox at 01:15, 18 Jun 2014.

Arcane Golems, Spellbreakers, Rangers, Blood Mages, Dragon Hawks and Phoenix are must haves imo

Heroes: Valeera Sanguinar, Grand Magister Rommath, Halduron Brightwing, Lor'themar Theron, Lady Liadrin.
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Vasilisa995
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posted June 18, 2014 04:11 AM
Edited by Vasilisa995 at 10:08, 21 Jun 2014.

xerox said:
Arcane Golems, Spellbreakers, Rangers, Blood Mages, Dragon Hawks and Phoenix are must haves imo

Heroes: Valeera Sanguinar, Grand Magister Rommath, Halduron Brightwing, Lor'themar Theron, Lady Liadrin.


Not bad idea. Thanks. I'll make sure that Novice Blood Knights and their upgrades will stay while other units will make it.

Phoenix model was done. Same with Blood Mage. Blood Elf Hunters are also Rangers. Blood Knight units will stay as level 4 units, not level 6 unit.

Before suggesting, reading lore about Blood Elves is necessary to see because there are some classes that existed before High Elven survivors named themselves Blood Elves. Those classes still exist to this day.

Update-

Due to Xerox's suggestions about units, I decided to change units. Many have to go, but some will stay.

Ranger->Ranger Guardian->Ranger Sharpshooter

Novice Mage->Grand Mage->Blood Mage

Arcane Golem->Fel Arcane Golem (based upon modified ones, which are only found in Sunwell Raid and Magisters Terrace)->Sunreaver Golem

Novice Blood Knight->Grand Blood Knight->Retribution Blood Knight

Gold Dragonhawk->Red Dragonhawk->Silver Dragonhawk

Novice Warrior->Silvermoon Guardian->Spellbeaker (Thanks for suggesting this unit, this is my favourite unit from Warcraft 3)

Phoenix->Dark Phoenix->White Phoenix

Three planned units stayed, while others went.

Update:Finally found Hawkstrider Models. I plan to replace Dragonhawk units to Hawkstrider units.

Also I plan to work on Town.
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Lord_Immortal
Lord_Immortal


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posted June 21, 2014 01:34 PM

I'd rather say:
Hero Class:
Blood Mage
Unique Skill:
Blood Vengeance(Same as Sylvan but with new icons)

Creatures:
T1:Sorceress->Blood Witch/Surveyor
(Ranged - Sorceresses from WC3 with offensive spells)

T2:Swordsman->Lieutenant/Defender
(No shield just sword. Armor goes as Leather->Mail/Plate. Defender has a shield and shield bash, high def. but low attack)

T3:Initiate->Reclaimer/Reveler
(Ranged - Priests from WC3 with friendly spells such as healing)

T4:Demon Hunter->Demon Slayer/Blood Hunter
(All of them attack twice. Demon Hunter&Slayer deal extra damage to demons, Blood Hunter deals extra damage to Elves(blood or not) )

T5:Dragonhawk Rider->Dragonhawk Champion/Blood Knight
(Flyer, low magic resistence, all else is classic)

T6:Spellbinder->Spellbreaker/Spellsword
(WC3 guys. High magic resistence, Shield bash)

T7:Phoenix->Sunwell Phoenix/Dark Phoenix
(All of them have Rebirth. Sunwell Phoenix can bless and heal friendly troops, Dark Phoenix can cast Curse and Decay)

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Vasilisa995
Vasilisa995


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posted June 22, 2014 01:03 AM
Edited by Vasilisa995 at 04:11, 23 Jun 2014.

Lord_Immortal said:
I'd rather say:
Hero Class:
Blood Mage
Unique Skill:
Blood Vengeance(Same as Sylvan but with new icons)

Creatures:
T1:Sorceress->Blood Witch/Surveyor
(Ranged - Sorceresses from WC3 with offensive spells)

T2:Swordsman->Lieutenant/Defender
(No shield just sword. Armor goes as Leather->Mail/Plate. Defender has a shield and shield bash, high def. but low attack)

T3:Initiate->Reclaimer/Reveler
(Ranged - Priests from WC3 with friendly spells such as healing)

T4:Demon Hunter->Demon Slayer/Blood Hunter
(All of them attack twice. Demon Hunter&Slayer deal extra damage to demons, Blood Hunter deals extra damage to Elves(blood or not) )

T5:Dragonhawk Rider->Dragonhawk Champion/Blood Knight
(Flyer, low magic resistence, all else is classic)

T6:Spellbinder->Spellbreaker/Spellsword
(WC3 guys. High magic resistence, Shield bash)

T7:Phoenix->Sunwell Phoenix/Dark Phoenix
(All of them have Rebirth. Sunwell Phoenix can bless and heal friendly troops, Dark Phoenix can cast Curse and Decay)


With Dragonhawk Riders there is an issue with WoW Model, so they will be replaced with Dragonhawks or Rangers I'm impressed with other units.

Actually Spellbreakers in WC3 are immune to magic. I will give  Black Dragon's Immunity to Magic passive ability instead. Spellbreaker and Priest are my favourite units from Warcraft 3. Thanks for suggesting them. I'll start working on model for heroes and these units. With Demon Hunter/Slayer and Blood Hunter making their models will be tricky. With others, I'll do as they look like in WoW. And what are Spellsword units? I plan to add Silvermoon Guardians, based on Guard Mobs in Silvermoon City. Demon Hunters according to Wowpedia Demon Hunter article relay on speed. So Demon Hunter/Slayer will have high speed stat. And also what does Reveler mean? This is new word to me.
Also Demon Hunter/Slayer and Blood Hunter will have Griffin's immunity to blindness passive ability. That means Blindness Attack of Silver/Pristine Unicorn will have no effect on them. Demon Hunters blind themselves through rituals according to same article to gain that new sight and put pieces of cloth on their mutilated eyes. I have so much work to do with units, town and abilities.

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Lord_Immortal
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posted June 25, 2014 08:50 PM

Spellbinders and Spellswords are kind of spellbreaker variations. Spellbinders have a shield and a shortsword(like a weaker ver. of Spellbreaker), and have magic immunity. Spellswords have a magic sword, no shield(but rather a fire in their hand), 50% magic resistence and the ability to cast offensive spells. (For variation sake)

Reveler is a sort of unit I found in the wowwiki. A Firewing Warlock would be good instead. So T3:Initiate->Reclaimer/Firewing Warlock

Demon Hunter/Slayer and Blood Hunter can use the Blade Dancer model thus they needing only glaive models and some sort of retexture.

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Vasilisa995
Vasilisa995


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posted June 26, 2014 01:09 AM

I'll replace Reveler with Firewing Warlock. Not a bad idea with models. Sorceress and her upgrades will use Shadow Witch and her upgrades model. But certain things will be retextured. For example, I gave glaives to Demon Hunter/Slayer but forgot to give the same to Blood Hunter. I'll choose which creature models i will use. For phoenix and his upgrades, I'll use Heroes 5 Phoenix model.
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Lord_Immortal
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posted June 26, 2014 07:51 PM

Vasilisa995 said:
I'll replace Reveler with Firewing Warlock. Not a bad idea with models. Sorceress and her upgrades will use Shadow Witch and her upgrades model. But certain things will be retextured. For example, I gave glaives to Demon Hunter/Slayer but forgot to give the same to Blood Hunter. I'll choose which creature models i will use. For phoenix and his upgrades, I'll use Heroes 5 Phoenix model.


For the Dragonhawk Riders use the Red Dragon Model(helm looks like beak) with a heavy retexture(feathers in wings and instead of scales). A way of Dragonhawk Riders can be this.

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Vasilisa995
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posted August 01, 2014 01:12 AM

Right now the project took drastic turn. It'll focus on Night Elves instead. I'll keep this post updated on units.

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xerox
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posted August 01, 2014 01:44 AM
Edited by xerox at 01:45, 01 Aug 2014.

some ideas

1. Wisp
2. Archer (add boobs to the Hunter?)
3. Druid
4. Demon Hunter (change weapons on Blade Dancer)
5. Keeper of the Grove (based on Centaur model)
6. Treant -> Ancient of War / Ancient of Lore (caster treant)
7. Green Dragon -> Emerald Dragon / Nightmare Dragon / Faerie Dragon (if its possible to add two heads to it, then make it a Chimaera)
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Vasilisa995
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posted August 01, 2014 06:25 AM
Edited by Vasilisa995 at 23:47, 24 Dec 2014.

Those units are good idea. I'm considering adding to archer these upgrades-Sentinel and Warden. I also thinking to add Moon Priestess units, but I will decide.

Update:Blood Academy (remake of Blood Sylvan) will make its return as soon as Night Sylvan is finished. Both projects are halted due to technical issues with WoW Model Viewer. Projects will be resumed as soon as Blood Elven Models will get their upgrades and WoW Model Viewer will updated as well.

Firewing Warlock will be replaced by Darkfallen Priest. This unit was inspired by Darkfallen Elven mobs in Icecrown Citadel Raid, which is my favourite raid.


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Vasilisa995
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posted August 05, 2016 04:59 AM
Edited by Vasilisa995 at 05:01, 05 Aug 2016.

Attention-I'll be working on Night Sylvan as of current, due to arrival of Legion of Expansion. It'll be part of tribute to upcoming launch of World of Warcraft-Legion. I was not able to do the faction due to being be occupied during Warlords of Draenor. Demon Hunter Units will be worked on due to their coming to pre-release Legion patch on 9th of August. I'll have to only add blindfolds and glaives.  There are technical issues with WoW Model Viewer, so it'll be no longer used, unless I find the way to fix it.
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