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Lesij
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posted August 18, 2014 12:49 PM |
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Edited by Lesij at 13:09, 18 Aug 2014.
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Variable game mechanics settings (as in WOG)
Don't you think that would be awesome if ubi implemented an ability to chose from a great variety of mechanics options and allowed players to chose what they want in their games?
Some people would like creature stacks to gain experience - they could switch it on. Some want wandering monsters - they could switch it on. Some want racials - they could switch it on. Others solo wandering heroes - and they also could switch it on.
For me, ubi could release the game even in '16 or '17 instead of '15, but implement almost all the options players want to and allow them to choose between them. So that everyone could make Heroes the game they desired for all these years...
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LucPatenaude
Famous Hero
Owning all 7 Heroes games
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posted September 02, 2014 05:29 PM |
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First of all, it is Limbic Entertainment that makes the game.
Second, it has been mentioned in the latest Q&A from Celestial Heavens that a revolutionary game editor is in the works for this newest title.
That's right, not a mere map editor, an overall game editor that will enhance the way you play MMH7 every time you get around at loading up the game. Pretty much like Civilization with the science research reserved to the Academy Faction(Wizards). Of course, the game will be jammed in the fantasy genre of the equivalent of our medieval era(Earth).
Because of this new Unreal engine, games will differ from each other so much that, the need to have a choice to make in military dwellings will become, rather crucial to each faction played onto every map.
This will not be your average and traditional Heroes game. Highly strategic and mostly tactical when it comes to battle mechanics.
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Sal
Famous Hero
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posted September 02, 2014 05:37 PM |
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Edited by Sal at 18:06, 02 Sep 2014.
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LucPatenaude said:
This will not be your average and traditional Heroes game. Highly strategic and mostly tactical when it comes to battle mechanics.
My average Heroes game was strategic and tactical until H4 came up. Then even less interesting at the point that I didn't even buy H6. So when they say revolutionary, it could be as well utter crap, seeing that they have zero experience in making good Heroes games.
Am I the only one to think that your entire post makes zero sense as well?
Things you describe have no correlation each other, the quality of the editor has zero impact on loading the game or with Civilization wizard academy (wtf is that), and the medieval era no correlation with Heroes universe or with...earth, nor with the engine used.
Moreover, it does not address or answer to anything from the OP. I am puzzled.
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Lesij
Famous Hero
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posted September 03, 2014 02:09 PM |
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Edited by Lesij at 14:10, 03 Sep 2014.
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@Sal - me too. At first I thought that I didn't understand what that man typed, but now I see I am not the only one confused here 
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Warmonger
Promising
Legendary Hero
fallen artist
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posted September 03, 2014 06:43 PM |
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now I see I am not the only one confused here
LucPatenaude - confusing people since I came to this board.
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MattII
Legendary Hero
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posted September 04, 2014 02:34 AM |
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Edited by MattII at 02:35, 04 Sep 2014.
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Well it'd be fun, but would probably hunt multiplayer as there'd be nedless arguments over which setting to use for any one game. If you could limit it, to just a handful of changes that might work. The ability to have a greater level of control over what features random-maps have, that would be interesting (and in fact that was a good portion of the WoG functions were about IIRC).
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artu
Promising
Undefeatable Hero
My BS sensor is tingling again
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posted September 04, 2014 03:54 AM |
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Quite right, too many optional changes in game mechanics result in your dream single player gmes but messes up multiplayer because nobody can remember, adapt to and master that amount of alternatives each game.
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Jiriki9
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Altar Dweller
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posted September 09, 2014 02:07 PM |
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And what if you had that countless options in mp, but only a few presets in Multi? These presets could represent certain playing styles. For example you could maybe have something like Roleplay, Realm-Building and Warfare presets for multiplayer, each of which carrying a fixed, fitting combo of choices in various aspects. And in singleplayer you would be able to adjust those choices freely. This would also have the benifit that there would be "senseful" options to choose from, since probably some choice combos would work better together than others.
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MattII
Legendary Hero
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posted September 10, 2014 12:30 AM |
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Edited by MattII at 00:33, 10 Sep 2014.
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I'd say make major variability a map-editor (including RMG) product rather than a game-menu one.
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Jiriki9
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Altar Dweller
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posted September 12, 2014 11:03 AM |
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Well, that would be possible as well, of course. But I still think some things as changeable options coudl be nice. Not as overdone as in WoG, maybe. (god, it was a HELL of options there, and some simply weird, iirc.)
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MattII
Legendary Hero
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posted September 13, 2014 08:45 PM |
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Wandering and fixed random monsters maybe. You have any other ideas?
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Lesij
Famous Hero
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posted September 14, 2014 02:13 PM |
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@MattII, @artu - and how it looked in wog? People adapted the game mode to each other. It would be all about negotations or maybe ubi could make some presets after the beta according to most popular gamestyles.
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Sal
Famous Hero
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posted September 14, 2014 02:19 PM |
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What I dream of and I don't find in any game is possibility to reduce/delete redundant animations and actions.
Creatures moving/attacking instant on battle field, move instant on adventure map, and all those little things which do nothing good but eat my time.
Remember H3 pre-battle music, it was a 8 seconds wav to play before you could move. Unacceptable today. Things like that.
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athas65
Known Hero
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posted September 14, 2014 05:36 PM |
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Sal said:
What I dream of and I don't find in any game is possibility to reduce/delete redundant animations and actions.
Creatures moving/attacking instant on battle field, move instant on adventure map, and all those little things which do nothing good but eat my time.
Remember H3 pre-battle music, it was a 8 seconds wav to play before you could move. Unacceptable today. Things like that.
Actually, Civ5 got quick movement and quick combat, which most people use after they watch the same battle animations enough times.
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MattII
Legendary Hero
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posted September 14, 2014 09:00 PM |
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Lesij said:
@MattII, @artu - and how it looked in wog? People adapted the game mode to each other. It would be all about negotations or maybe ubi could make some presets after the beta according to most popular gamestyles.
About half the option in WoG were to do with inserting WoG objects into normal maps, and thus totally irrelevant in this game. there was also one page to do with boosting certain secondary skills, which can easily be written off as irrelevant.
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Lesij
Famous Hero
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posted September 15, 2014 06:33 AM |
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Edited by Lesij at 06:33, 15 Sep 2014.
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@MattII - I don't say those should be the very same options as in WOG. I came up with the whole idea mainly because of wandering monsters and solo heroes movement are both controversial.
Allowing to switch them on and off would solve the problem.
The same thing is with other controversial features. If variable mechanics are introduced in the game, more people would be happy 
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MattII
Legendary Hero
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posted September 15, 2014 11:26 AM |
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I still say the limit should be maybe 10 options tops.
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Jiriki9
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Altar Dweller
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posted September 15, 2014 12:14 PM |
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Wandering and fixed random monsters maybe.
wasn't that changeable in H4 as well?
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LucPatenaude
Famous Hero
Owning all 7 Heroes games
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posted September 15, 2014 09:46 PM |
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Yes, it was.
But, this time around, do not think that will be part of the options within the random game generator of this game. R.G.G. for short instead of R.M.G. Will be a major gameplay change.
As for the multi player interface: The host makes the game and options and offers anyone else to join in. It'll be in the LAN type, even over the global internet.
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Lesij
Famous Hero
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posted September 18, 2014 01:42 PM |
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That's a good idea, in my opinion. I both understand Luc and agree with him xD
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