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Mediczero
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Warlord of the sea
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posted December 01, 2015 03:04 PM |
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Far eastern shores
A little project of mine, where I try to construct a new setting heavily inspired by Japanese mythology with some bits of other asian lore and mothology, although some European creatures are allowed if they fit. Still Work In Progress, so everything can change.
May, may not make artwork for this...
Harmony
Themes: Nature, Peace
Terrain: Grass/Forest
Units:
Tier 1. Fairy
Tier 2. Kitsune
Tier 3. Tiger
Tier 4. Treant
Tier 5. Kirin
Tier 6. Phoenix
Order
Themes: Magic, Knowledge
Terrain: Snow/Mountain
Units:
Tier 1.
Tier 2. Monk
Tier 3. Yuki-Onna
Tier 4. Samurai
Tier 5. Yeti
Tier 6. Dragon Turtle
Sea
Themes: Water, Trade
Terrain: Swamp/Jungle
Units:
Tier 1. Kappa
Tier 2. Samebito
Tier 3. Mermaid
Tier 4.
Tier 5. Naga
Tier 6. Sea Serpent
Death
Themes: Necromancy, Spirits
Terrain: Rock/Wasteland
Units:
Tier 1. Skeleton
Tier 2. Ghost
Tier 3.
Tier 4. Vampire
Tier 5. Gashadokuro (Giant skeleton monster)
Tier 6. Shimigani
Other ideas: Lich, Joro-gumo (okay, honestly kinda like the Nataru, just not a directly a spirit of death)
Chaos
Themes: War, Darkness
Native Terrain: Sand/Desert
Units:
Tier 1.
Tier 2. Ninja
Tier 3. Tengu
Tier 4. Oni
Tier 5. Sorceress
Tier 6. Omukade
Other ideas: Joro-gumo, Evil Eye
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Rakshasa92
Supreme Hero
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posted December 01, 2015 03:48 PM |
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Zzzzz, spare for the Omukade, Yuki-Onna and Tengu, everything else is boring, used too often and uninspired.
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted December 01, 2015 04:11 PM |
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted December 01, 2015 04:40 PM |
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whoa, the negativity!
As I said, I'm all down with a asian-Heroes. too bare-bones at the moment to really dig into but what's for certain is that the Chinese dragons of the four directions are missing. especially the Dragon turtle. would be perfect for Order (or at least ocean). Well, it's a sea-creature with clear affiliation to order. easily made to live in snow.
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Mediczero
Famous Hero
Warlord of the sea
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posted December 01, 2015 04:50 PM |
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Reply to GenyaArikado
Because 8 was too many..?
Reply to kiryu133
You might have a point there. Also, I'm starting to feel the monk is a bit to high tier...
Also, just ignore Rakshasa. He just hates everything he deems "boring" and "overused"
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted December 01, 2015 04:57 PM |
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i mean, why not the typical 7?
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Mediczero
Famous Hero
Warlord of the sea
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posted December 01, 2015 05:01 PM |
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GenyaArikado said:
i mean, why not the typical 7?
Also seemed a little to high given the number of ideas I had when I made this. Might change it in the futher if there is enough ideas to go around.
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted December 02, 2015 11:57 AM |
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Ninja feels more at home in forests than desert.
see the zodiacs for more inspiration (they're pretty common in eastern media)
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Gryphs
Supreme Hero
The Clever Title
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posted December 02, 2015 12:10 PM |
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kiryu133 said:
Ninja feels more at home in forests than desert.
Could be a Hashashin-esque thing.
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Rakshasa92
Supreme Hero
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posted December 02, 2015 12:23 PM |
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Why on earth would you leave the Samurai Crab (Heikegani) out of the sea town? ANd how on earth in a Japanese-style town would you use a Sea Serpent instead of a Ikuchi?
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Mediczero
Famous Hero
Warlord of the sea
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posted December 02, 2015 12:37 PM |
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Reply to kiryu133
Ninjas fits darkness town better, seeing as they're practical assassins. Actually, the desert part is more likely to be changed.
And speaking of the Zodiacs, a Tiger in harmony could be a good idea.
Reply to Rakshasa
Because nobody told me? Serious, if you actually start being a little more civil I might actually start listening to your suggestions.
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Drakon-Deus
Undefeatable Hero
Qapla'
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posted December 02, 2015 12:58 PM |
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Looks great to me so far. Great choices, the Harmony and Chaos factions I like especially. And very good choices for level 6 all around.
I have no objections to having Fairy or Kirin.
Or Samurai, but I think he/she should be higher than the Monk.
Vampire should be there too imo.
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Mediczero
Famous Hero
Warlord of the sea
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posted December 02, 2015 01:11 PM |
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Drakon-Deus said:
Looks great to me so far. Great choices, the Harmony and Chaos factions I like especially. And very good choices for level 6 all around.
I have no objections to having Fairy or Kirin.
Or Samurai, but I think he/she should be higher than the Monk.
Vampire should be there too imo.
Okay! 
Thanks for your opinion!
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Rakshasa92
Supreme Hero
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posted December 07, 2015 12:03 AM |
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Civil? How can I be more civil to someone who calls him/herself master lineup smith and who puts units like Tiger, Sea Serpent, Samurai, Ninja, vampire and all that other common stuff into its so called MASTER line-ups.
Don't call yourself master lineup smith, that annoys a real creative person, like me, beyond no measure.
Just call yourself: Guy who puts standard creatures together and calls it towns. :-D
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frostymuaddib
Promising
Supreme Hero
育碧是白痴
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posted December 07, 2015 12:35 AM |
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I rarely write in ineup threads, but I just had to.
@Mediczero I like where this is going. Waiting for artwork 
@Rakshasa
Rakshasa92 said:
Civil? How can I be more civil to someone who calls him/herself master lineup smith and who puts units like Tiger, Sea Serpent, Samurai, Ninja, vampire and all that other common stuff into its so called MASTER line-ups.
Being civil has nothing to do with your taste. You may dislike/hate something, but still remain civil.
Rakshasa92 said:
Don't call yourself master lineup smith, that annoys a real creative person, like me, beyond no measure.
At least you are humble  Everyone has the right to create a thread with his own lineup, and express his creativity. Relax a little.
Rakshasa92 said:
Just call yourself: Guy who puts standard creatures together and calls it towns. :-D
Oh, and putting creatures with strange names is not the same thing as being original. And what is 'standard' creature, btw?
As for Ikuchi/Sea Serpent thingy you mentioned earlier, they can look exactly the same (and be the same) except that one has japanese name and one has english name.
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted December 07, 2015 05:12 AM |
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You could put the Jiangshi instesd vampire.
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Mediczero
Famous Hero
Warlord of the sea
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posted December 07, 2015 08:39 AM |
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GenyaArikado said:
You could put the Jiangshi instesd vampire.
I could, but it lacks some of the qualities and appeals of the vampire, so I wont consider it a possible replacement. But it could work as tier 3.
Rakshasa92 said:
Civil? How can I be more civil to someone who calls him/herself master lineup smith and who puts units like Tiger, Sea Serpent, Samurai, Ninja, vampire and all that other common stuff into its so called MASTER line-ups.
Don't call yourself master lineup smith, that annoys a real creative person, like me, beyond no measure.
Just call yourself: Guy who puts standard creatures together and calls it towns. :-D
Just so you know, the "master lineup smith" is a joke and referance to back when I would post lineups like a crazy in the shadow council. And of course because I mostly work with lineups here.
But seriously, you are not more "creative" just because you use lesser know creatures and rejects everything you deem "overused"
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted December 07, 2015 09:10 AM |
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Rakshasa92 said:
Why on earth would you leave the Samurai Crab (Heikegani) out of the sea town? ANd how on earth in a Japanese-style town would you use a Sea Serpent instead of a Ikuchi?
I love it!
frostymuaddib said:
Being civil has nothing to do with your taste. You may dislike/hate something, but still remain civil.
Also this. Everyone is touchy about one thing or the other but that should not get in the way of being respectful to one another.
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Rakshasa92
Supreme Hero
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posted December 07, 2015 09:32 AM |
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frostymuaddib said:
Oh, and putting creatures with strange names is not the same thing as being original. And what is 'standard' creature, btw?
As for Ikuchi/Sea Serpent thingy you mentioned earlier, they can look exactly the same (and be the same) except that one has japanese name and one has english name.
They only have strange names because you don't know them yet, that's why you think they are strange, but mythology has so many undiscovered jewels and pearls, that should have been just as known as Medusa and Minotaur, who also would have strange names if you just learned about them. But all mythological creatures that D&D used in the 70ties are suddenly the ones EVERYONE should use, and the ones D&D didn't find in the 70ties are all crap? Lol.
And the Lovecraft (I hate them) monsters have much more difficult names, and I hear NOBODY about those, because it is lovecraft? Give me Popobawa, Wendigo and Ikuchi OVER Chthulu anyday.
Anyway this is from wiki about the Ikuchi:
"From its body surface, an adhesive oil would seep out, and when it straddles the boat, it would spill a large amount of this oil on the ship, so if this is not scooped out, the boat would sink."
Very different from the House, Kitchen and Garden Sea Serpent. The oil is a very cool feature and can be replaced by adhesive tar as well.
What I meant with SIMPLE/BORING creatures is that using names like Tiger, Ninja, Samurai, Monk and stuff like that in your line-ups is very unprofessional and boring, and reminds me of the boringness of this world I have to saddle myself up with. All these people that are stuck on Wolverine, Dragons and Scorpion/Ryu and can't think past Joker, Soccer and all other overused stuff, it made me cold and sometimes cruel towards my lesser kin. ;-)
Suffering from narcissism is a blessing in this world.
Anyway Asian Creatures you can use in this are:
Japanese
Akaname = Palis (Rust Licker)
Bakekujira (Ghost Narwhal / Ghost Cachalot / Ghost Blue)
Baku
Gaki = Preta (Humanoid / Serpent)
Gashadokuro /Spartoi/
Harionago
Heikegani (Samurai / Ronin)
Hyakume
Isonade
Jinmenju /Fruitling/
Jorogumo
Kawa Akago
Nue
Raiju (Beast / Lightning)
Sagari
Tenome
Umibozu
Yuki-Onna
Dorotabo = Obambo
Enenra
Funa-Yurei
Ittan-Momen (Single / Host)
Jubokko
Kamaitachi
Keukegen
Kurage
Namazu
Nekomata = Kasha
Nodeppo
Nuppeppo = Nurikabe
Omukade
Otoroshi
Sazae-Oni
Shachihoko (Red / Gold)
Suiko /Kappa Slave/
Tera-Tsutsuki (Swarm / Dire)
Tesso (Rat Caller / Iron Mage / Vorpal Lord) /Rat Swarm/
Tsuchigumo
Wanyudo (Crusher / Impaler / Infernal)
Philippine/Indonesian/Melanesian/Islands
Abaia
Adaro = Zitiron (Blue Ranger / Tiger Rogue / Hammer Mage / White Brute)
Nuno /Ant Swarm/
Polong (Living Carnage)
Siyokoy
Tikbalang
Tiyanak = Toyol
A Bao A Qu (Ooze / Humanoid / Dragon)
Abere /Faduah/
Anggitay (Amethyst / Ruby / Diamond)
Aswang = Manananggal = Berbalang
Bakunawa /Liquid Shadow/
Banaspati
Batibat
Berberoka
Bonguru /Hornet Swarm/
Con Rit = Skolopendra
Kumiho (Six Tail / Nine Tail / Twelve Tail)
Mambabarang /Deathcrawler/ /Awahondo/
Pelesit = Apocalypse Locust (Single / Host)
Sigbin
Veo = Dingonek
Chinese
Death Worm (Sand Worm / Death Worm / Apocalypse Worm)
Shen (Deception Drake / Mirage Dragon / Paramnesia Wyrm)
Taotie = Pixiu = Haetae
Terra-Cotta Warrior (Soldier / Archer / Mage / Chariot)
Xiao = Ahool
Dijiang
Zhenniao
Hindu + Arabian = Egyptian
Ammit
Ghul
Girtablilu = Aqrabuamelu
Ifrit /Fire Elemental/
Juggernaut (Royal)
Karkadann = Indrik
Manticore
Miraj (Almiraj)
Mummy = Petsuchos (Ancient Mummy)
Rakshasa (Flesh Tearer / Noble / Illusionist)
Salawa (Set's Champion)
Scarab = Jinshin Mushi (Swarm / Giant)
Serpopard
Sruvara (Venom Drake / Toxic Dragon / Rust Wyrm) /Seps/
Vish Kanya (Ranger / Assassin / Sorceress / Queen)
Asag /Underling/
Asdeev (Cloud Drake / Mist Dragon / Fog Wyrm)
Bushyasta
Caspilly = Vatnagedda
Druj Nasu
Fulad-Zereh /Possessed Armor/
Ichneumon = Leontophone
Jidra
Marabbecca
Raktavija (Blood Warrior / Blood Corruptor / Blood Summoner)
Sak
Sandwalker
Shadhavar
Zaratan (Coast / Bog / Oasis)
Some Others from all Asian Sources, but which I care about less than the above.
Hannya
Virabhadra
Orang-Pendak
Tengu
Hahaki-Gami
Imoogi
Kasa-Obake
Pipefox
Santelmo
Zorigami
Airavata
Bai Ze
Byakko
Garuda
Kappa
Kapre
Kijimuna
Kirin
Kitsune
Tanuki
Tienglung
Ashinaga-Tenaga
Bisha Ga Tsuku
Kamikiri
Katsura-Otoko
Ningyo
Rokurokubi
Yanagi-Baba
Zheng
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Mediczero
Famous Hero
Warlord of the sea
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posted December 07, 2015 10:00 AM |
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Rakshasa, just listing a lot of names doesn't change anything.
Firstly you should describe what they actually is, what it does, how it looks. You know, that sort of things. I got other things to do than digging up information about them you know.
Secondly, they have to fit the towns over current suggestions. And that is for me to decide. I wont just change it because you ask me to.
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