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Thread: AI plays so slow and i need solution :(
vulcancolak
vulcancolak


Adventuring Hero
posted August 04, 2016 03:31 AM
Edited by vulcancolak at 00:09, 12 Nov 2016.

AI plays so slow and i need solution :(

First of all greetings and love from Turkey. I am playing this game since HoM&M 3 and i have played "all" games except of 7 and i have a huge screenshot archive on facebook. You can search "Volcano Archive"


Before the start let me tell you what we need

1) "Anything" that makes ai plays faster on MULTIPLAYER

2) "Guarantee" method.

We looked for somethings and everyone talked about one of the mods that improves ai turn but they told me it does not work on multiplayer and some of my friends told me about aiturntime etc etc at my documents ai something (i don't know what it is) but they told me it isn't worked too

I know maybe someone already created topic like this but i am active HoM&M player (i mean i am checking forum but not posting too much) and i will add if someone discovers any methods for the improve ai playtime.

I wish good days for you (yes i know my english is not good and i bet it seems very lame)

--- Solutions ---

1-)

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mctronic
mctronic

Tavern Dweller
posted September 29, 2016 04:52 AM
Edited by mctronic at 04:53, 29 Sep 2016.

Download Quantomas' enhanced AI. It does miracles. You can find the thread in the H5 Mod section.

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dredknight
dredknight


Supreme Hero
posted September 29, 2016 06:14 PM
Edited by dredknight at 18:15, 29 Sep 2016.

You can also try Heroes 5.5 mod it incorporates a lot of balance changes, hero classes, the Quantomas AI and adds some new buildings on the adventure map.

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vulcancolak
vulcancolak


Adventuring Hero
posted November 10, 2016 06:51 PM

Uhm these modes are compatible with multiplayer??? Otherwise it is meaningless for us.

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dredknight
dredknight


Supreme Hero
posted November 10, 2016 07:21 PM

vulcancolak said:
Uhm these modes are compatible with multiplayer??? Otherwise it is meaningless for us.


The new AI does not support LAN games. You can play on Hotseat though.
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vulcancolak
vulcancolak


Adventuring Hero
posted November 10, 2016 07:56 PM

it is impossible to play hot-seat with my friends thanks anyway. Still i am looking for the any solution for the lower ai playtime

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Alef
Alef

Tavern Dweller
posted November 11, 2016 02:11 PM

Probably the weak point is computer speed. As AI calculates all the battles and how it's fights. Maybe on easy they calculate less .

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vulcancolak
vulcancolak


Adventuring Hero
posted November 28, 2016 01:52 AM

Still i am looking for solutions. Please do not suggest homm 5.5 mod. Me and my friends wants to play vanilla game.

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Elvin
Elvin


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Omnipresent Hero
Rejuvenation process
posted November 28, 2016 05:17 AM

I don't see why you'd prefer a worse H5 version(original is crap, hof is crap, tote is good, H5.5 is great) but if it's fully patched, I don't see what else you could do. Except maybe play maps without AI, Tournament of Honour has a number of 1v1.
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vulcancolak
vulcancolak


Adventuring Hero
posted November 28, 2016 04:08 PM

Because TotE is fair enough for us and i can't persuade them. They are old and loves TotE. I have tried too much for bring them to HoMM 5 TotE and they do not want to new features.

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markkur
markkur


Responsible
Legendary Hero
Once upon a time
posted November 28, 2016 04:29 PM

vulcancolak said:
Because TotE is fair enough for us and i can't persuade them. They are old and loves TotE. I have tried too much for bring them to HoMM 5 TotE and they do not want to new features.


If that is the case (and you cannot play hotseat) and are using 3.1's original A.I. than all you can do is "limit how many A.I. factions are on the map with you guys." If there are three of you playing I would suggest two things to make it better for your game. One, no more than two A.I. factions and play no map larger than L or "maybe" XL, depending on the map - i.e. mine are loaded with effects etc. so they would probably not work well. You could try Huge but without Q's "J" A.I. it will be a mess most likely.

Of course, if you must play a huge or impossible size map, there is the idea of "while you set-up the game" - you remove all A.I. played factions or maybe try leaving 1 or 2 and testing whether you can live with the turn-times.

Hope that helps to some degree.

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vulcancolak
vulcancolak


Adventuring Hero
posted November 29, 2016 12:19 PM
Edited by vulcancolak at 20:44, 29 Nov 2016.

markkur said:
vulcancolak said:
Because TotE is fair enough for us and i can't persuade them. They are old and loves TotE. I have tried too much for bring them to HoMM 5 TotE and they do not want to new features.


If that is the case (and you cannot play hotseat) and are using 3.1's original A.I. than all you can do is "limit how many A.I. factions are on the map with you guys." If there are three of you playing I would suggest two things to make it better for your game. One, no more than two A.I. factions and play no map larger than L or "maybe" XL, depending on the map - i.e. mine are loaded with effects etc. so they would probably not work well. You could try Huge but without Q's "J" A.I. it will be a mess most likely.

Of course, if you must play a huge or impossible size map, there is the idea of "while you set-up the game" - you remove all A.I. played factions or maybe try leaving 1 or 2 and testing whether you can live with the turn-times.

Hope that helps to some degree.


Yes sadly i know we are playing with maximum 2 computers and i have created my own map large size with undergroud (it started to felt like a XL or Huge and i hate small maps) but it seems i need to convince my friends for the heroes 5.5 :/

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markkur
markkur


Responsible
Legendary Hero
Once upon a time
posted November 29, 2016 06:19 PM

vulcancolak said:
Yes sadly i know we are playing with maximum 2 computers and i have created my own map large size with undergroud (it started to felt like a XL or Huge and i have small maps) but it seems i need to convince my friends for the heroes 5.5 :/


Maybe my affirming what you've already been telling them will help then and wasn't a waste of my time.

I once thought that beautiful 3D was what made H5 a turtle but Q's "J" A.I. proved that was not the entire reason by a long stretch. And when I began using the Editor <imo> I found the "file-system" of the game was very haphazard - more like laying straight railroad track and when needed bending one or more rail-sections around whatever encountered obstacle. When I began making H5 maps I did so in the H3 tradition. I soon discovered by gameplay - better to stay at or preferably below the obvious limit of 8 Towns (i.e. 8-factions).

Anyway, have fun. Cheers from Mizzou land.


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enfre
enfre

Tavern Dweller
posted February 04, 2017 10:42 PM

try shorternight.h5u or the H5_AIProcess_31j.exe

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vulcancolak
vulcancolak


Adventuring Hero
posted March 27, 2017 07:11 AM

By the way i already tried this mod and heroes 5.5 but i didn't see the difference. Computer still plays slowly and thinks too much even the lowest lookahead depht.

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