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Thread: Wanna throw away some money? Buy Homm4 ! This thread is 2 pages long: 1 2 · «PREV
Krishhh
Krishhh


Adventuring Hero
still learning spells
posted April 16, 2002 02:14 PM

Jenova, as far as I see you are complaining about obstacles (you didn`t move your archers forward in H3 did you?) so why do you want to put them in the front row? Maybe you just played w/ centaurs or orcs? The have  twice the normal range penalty.
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brody
brody


Known Hero
Pathetic Loser
posted April 16, 2002 08:28 PM

[quoteI tried that.. but then they just block the bigger units behind them, and the ones that can get past them will take even longer to reach the end of the battlefield (most units can't walk very far if you don't have Tactics). The Dragon Golem is one that easily gets blocked. If Archery could be passed onto the other units (just the removal of the penalty), I would be jumping for joy at this game.

Unka, what does that Sniper's Crossbow do exactly? I wish the map editor would tell these things.


Okay, but what about a spread out formation?  If you have everybody fully spread out (I think it's the top formation in the list), it should be okay.  Yeah, you'll have your melee troops slowed down by a turn, but if you really want your archers in front that's probably the only solution.
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Jenova
Jenova


Famous Hero
posted April 17, 2002 08:49 AM

Quote:
Jenova, as far as I see you are complaining about obstacles (you didn`t move your archers forward in H3 did you?) so why do you want to put them in the front row? Maybe you just played w/ centaurs or orcs? The have  twice the normal range penalty.


I've tried every archer just about, even titans. At the back row, you never get full damage (very rarely anyway). And no I never moved my archers forward in H3. I always used the archery skill so there was no need.

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UnkaHaakon
UnkaHaakon


Responsible
Famous Hero
happily tilting at windmills
posted April 17, 2002 09:30 AM

Sniper's Crossbow

This item adds to the heroe's ranged attack, but also removes all range penalties for his units. Definately a handy item.
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Jenova
Jenova


Famous Hero
posted April 17, 2002 10:36 AM
Edited By: Jenova on 17 Apr 2002

*droolz*

Awww.. that's perfect. Just the item I need. It will solve all my problems. But it's probably one of those really rare items right?
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UnkaHaakon
UnkaHaakon


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Famous Hero
happily tilting at windmills
posted April 17, 2002 12:20 PM

well, if I told you I had found more than one on a map, would you hate me forever? It seems to come up about as often as any other artifact for me. ::shrugs:: it's all a matter of luck with the random artifacts and wizard's boxes.
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Lith-Maethor
Lith-Maethor


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Legendary Hero
paid in Coin and Cleavage
posted April 17, 2002 12:22 PM

same for me...

Sniper's Crossbow is one of the most common artifacts...
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DonGio
DonGio


Promising
Famous Hero
of Clear Water Mountain Clan
posted April 17, 2002 12:27 PM

Yep... really common...
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Jenova
Jenova


Famous Hero
posted April 17, 2002 02:06 PM

Doh! I guess it's my luck then.. The only bow I've seen is the normal 'Bow'.
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Godlike
Godlike

Tavern Dweller
posted January 10, 2003 01:42 AM

Apologies for the 3do staff !

 Finally after months i have reinstalled HOMM4 and finished the campaigns ( Original + The Gathering Storm )
I must admit that i was wrong ! HOMM4 is a genious game after all !It is so much different from the previous HOMM3 that i didn't understand it as i should have. It is a worth buying game after all. To be more explicit , it is a must have game ! Now that i finally got the hang of it i just can't stop playing it ! It will stay on my HDD for years to come, that's for sure. 3DO staff , please accept my apologies, and keep up the good work !
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CzlowiekWiadro
CzlowiekWiadro


Hired Hero
Windowlicker
posted January 10, 2003 11:55 PM

Yeah

....and the spots on that cow aren't so beautiful they used to be.
You're simply getting old.


"Some units in combat walk very slow. The line of sight archery is annoying. Archery units are severly penalized in this game."

Tell me, how are ranged units penaltized in this game if melee units are slower in general ? I can use your own arguments against you.

"The grail is disappointing. 3000 gold a day? Pathetic."

City hall in H3 provides you with 2000 gold per day, and the grail with another 5000. So it gives you +250% income.
Now, City Hall in h4 makes you earn 1000 gold pieces per day. Grail structure brings extra 3000 gold. This means that your income is increased by +300%. Now who's pathetic ?

"I have to move forth with crap units so I can get more resources to afford the 4th level troops."

4th level creatures aren't required to defeat your opponent.At least you still have something to strive for.

"The class specific abilities are quite minor and don't really justify much of a change in name. Some of them are plain useless."

Indeed. Those abilities are just bonuses. When you promote your hero to advanced class, he/she gains good access to those 2 choosen skill trees (e.g. Tactics and Combat), and that should be your primary concern.

" Well actually, I like to play Magic heroes, so I don't get combat. It kinda conflicts with the caster profession. If I'm going to spend my hero's turns casting powerful spells, would it make sense to get some combat skills? I usually get 2 magics, nobility, scouting, and tactics. The reason I don't get combat is because the effects are for the hero only, which is a waste and I'd rather be using my hero casting spells."

One has to face cosequences of choices he makes. Tip: you'd better focus on 2-3 skill trees (instead of 5) before developing new area. It requires LOTS of skill points.
If you have magic skills only (no combat at all) your hero most likely won't be able to survive long enough to make use of magic. That's what I call real waste.

Have a nice day.

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LordLazy
LordLazy


Promising
Famous Hero
Wood cleaner
posted January 11, 2003 05:17 AM

I regret even thinking of buying this game. And u know what I regret even more? that I actually bought the game too

Well, done is done......those money could had been spent on something else though .....grrrrrrrrr

*Want my money back*

*Looking for someone stupid enough to buy my copy*

*Wonders if anyone is stupid enough to pay more than a quarter of the original price *

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Targan
Targan


Known Hero
posted January 11, 2003 08:42 AM

WHY???

must ppl complain about a game that they dont play???
let us that like the game play it, and the others can mind there own business.

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CzlowiekWiadro
CzlowiekWiadro


Hired Hero
Windowlicker
posted January 11, 2003 12:44 PM

Because they're getting old.

In most cases they're unable to put in some reasonable arguments. Most of them are "the rocket launcher isn't red anymore !" style.

Lack of tactics in h4... Hmpf.
H4 introduced whole new level of tactics in Heroes Of Might And Magic - cretures to choose, hero type and development now does matter BIG time, spells aren't that random anymore... Too much to list here.

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oUcH_CrO
oUcH_CrO

Tavern Dweller
posted January 03, 2004 05:25 PM

I think it ignores range penalty.But i'm going to kill some one if they ciompletly change homm editor.
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oUcH_CrO
oUcH_CrO

Tavern Dweller
posted January 03, 2004 05:29 PM

Yeah the only thing not to like in homm4 is diferent creature and screen look.
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