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vulcancolak
vulcancolak


Known Hero
posted March 31, 2017 11:20 PM
Edited by vulcancolak at 12:45, 07 Apr 2017.

I have started to develop Heroes 5 mod but..

First of all let me introduce myself. I am the guy who likes edit most of the game. I am also developer of many Warcraft III mods. For an example i can show you to this. www.facebook.com/jfamap


But now i need help about on somethings.

FOUND

Buildings stats and costs and texts (i found)
Creatures stats, costs, abilities and texts (i found)
Artifacts stats and texts (i found)
Some of the hero skills (not everyone) thanks to topic posts
Changing heroes starting skills and abilities thanks to magnomagus



NOT FOUND

Artifacts abilities stats (how to change initiative bonus of dragonscale shield or how to increase 50% fire resistance of dragon flame tongue

Heroes specializations edit (for example lizard breeder's lizard bite damage bonus)

How to exclude specific units in random groups (for example i want to prevent x unit spawn from random x tier)

Starting bonuses (gold, random minor etc)




Still i need help and i really wonder where in the these things stored. Which folder and subfolder..

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NimoStar
NimoStar


Promising
Famous Hero
Modding the Unmoddable
posted April 01, 2017 08:05 AM

Welcome from a fellow modder.

I do not mod H5 but H4 and other games, so what I can say depends on those experiences...

And in my experience Heroes games have a problem with moddability (except 7, but 7 sucks )
The problem is related to that many things are "hardcoded", so that the only way to modify them, is to modify the .exe file.

This can be done with hex editing (I use Hex Editor Neo, but there are many) or assembly editing.

In any case, it can be limited and/or pretty frustrating. I am not sure of your experience but Warcraft mods are typically mapmaking and much simpler in that way.

In Heroes 5 I am not completely sure, but it's a suggestions.

Greetings.
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vulcancolak
vulcancolak


Known Hero
posted April 01, 2017 09:39 AM

Thank you but i was already started to making changes.

Now i was just discovered the file named "DefaultStats" (Thanks to dredknight) but this file is so complicated. Still i am looking for the change missing abilities (i said missing because DefaultStats file not includes everything)

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vulcancolak
vulcancolak


Known Hero
posted April 02, 2017 01:54 PM
Edited by vulcancolak at 09:41, 03 Apr 2017.

Where can i find Hero's starting abilities?

Update: Still i cannot find which skills with heroes start. I want to change their starting abilities and skills (not unique abilities)

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magnomagus
magnomagus


Promising
Legendary Hero
modding wizard
posted April 04, 2017 04:40 PM

In MapObjectsheroes folders
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vulcancolak
vulcancolak


Known Hero
posted April 04, 2017 05:02 PM

Hmmm. Thank you so much. I never guessed it can be hold in there. Map Objects seems meaningless to me Anyway at least i can edit now. Thank you so much sir!

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vulcancolak
vulcancolak


Known Hero
posted April 05, 2017 07:55 PM
Edited by vulcancolak at 12:16, 07 Apr 2017.

Why i can't give these both abilities to hero?



First ability overrides second ability. If i put holy charge to top, there is no frenzy. If i put frenzy, there is no charge

Update: Ok i have solved it by myself after few tests. For the people who need it let me explain, just put 2 skills together between perkID's

But still there is more thing i haven't discovered.

NOT FOUND

Artifacts abilities stats (how to change initiative bonus of dragonscale shield or how to increase 50% fire resistance of dragon flame tongue

Heroes specializations edit (for example lizard breeder's lizard bite damage bonus)

How to exclude specific units in random groups (for example i want to prevent x unit spawn from random x tier)

Specially i was looked for the Lizard Breeder ability. I have searched the "entire" data.pak folder with this terms "ferigl, lizard, breed, bite, rider" but i haven't found.

Starting bonuses (gold, random minor etc)

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zmudziak22
zmudziak22


Famous Hero
posted April 08, 2017 09:20 PM

vulcancolak

Some abilities are not apply to some hero classes, or you need specific skills, look for Tribes of the East Skillwheel.

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vulcancolak
vulcancolak


Known Hero
posted April 09, 2017 01:34 AM

zmudziak22 said:
vulcancolak

Some abilities are not apply to some hero classes, or you need specific skills, look for Tribes of the East Skillwheel.


Thanks. I know. This is why i am asking for help. Still i have many unsolved things and still i haven't find where the folders in my post

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magnomagus
magnomagus


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Legendary Hero
modding wizard
posted April 09, 2017 11:02 AM

You really want a lot of stuff some of which is very difficult, since i don't have interest in writing tutorials right now i recommend downloading Heroes 5.5 and investigate how it is constructed.
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vulcancolak
vulcancolak


Known Hero
posted April 09, 2017 11:41 AM
Edited by vulcancolak at 11:57, 09 Apr 2017.

magnomagus said:
You really want a lot of stuff some of which is very difficult, since i don't have interest in writing tutorials right now i recommend downloading Heroes 5.5 and investigate how it is constructed.


Hmmm i actually want to learn destination of files. If it comes scripting, i cannot do. As you check my foundings i am making simple edits. Yes i am changing c# scripts but it seems easy.

You can just say which files i need to work on it like (gamemechaics/spells) etc etc. Rest of them my problem if i cannot do, i will give up about it and continue work on the things i already learned (if i cannot find edit abilites of items, i will continue edit their own attributes or costs etc etc) so i do not need tutorial (i need actually but i cannot request and i cannot say TEACH ME HOW TO) i just need filenames. And thank you for your help.

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vulcancolak
vulcancolak


Known Hero
posted April 16, 2017 11:49 AM

It seems i will release my mod too late. Because still i am looking every file and try to find somethings. And also i cannot created setup.exe actually i did but it replaces entire data.pak instead of replacing new ones. I don't know what can i do for now.

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lotihoti
lotihoti


Famous Hero
posted April 16, 2017 04:57 PM

vulcancolak said:
zmudziak22 said:
vulcancolak

Some abilities are not apply to some hero classes, or you need specific skills, look for Tribes of the East Skillwheel.


Thanks. I know. This is why i am asking for help. Still i have many unsolved things and still i haven't find where the folders in my post


Remove the second <perk> </perk> then nothing will get an override.
Just:

<perk>
skill1
skill2
etc
</perk>

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vulcancolak
vulcancolak


Known Hero
posted April 16, 2017 09:17 PM

lotihoti said:
vulcancolak said:
zmudziak22 said:
vulcancolak

Some abilities are not apply to some hero classes, or you need specific skills, look for Tribes of the East Skillwheel.


Thanks. I know. This is why i am asking for help. Still i have many unsolved things and still i haven't find where the folders in my post


Remove the second <perk> </perk> then nothing will get an override.
Just:

<perk>
skill1
skill2
etc
</perk>


Read the message, i was already solved it in the same day but thanks for your help.

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lotihoti
lotihoti


Famous Hero
posted April 17, 2017 03:04 PM

Ops - missread that...

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vulcancolak
vulcancolak


Known Hero
posted April 17, 2017 07:49 PM

No problem but if you want to help, check the unsolved things. Still i cannot find how to edit skill values (not spells) or starting bonuses or artifact's abilities (i do not mean stats)

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lotihoti
lotihoti


Famous Hero
posted April 17, 2017 10:57 PM

Well the other changes are really hard to do. The only one here who can do that is probably deflaktor.
You need to hexedit the exe. Google about hexediting. Do some easy tutorials and then maybe your able to do it

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vulcancolak
vulcancolak


Known Hero
posted April 19, 2017 08:07 PM

Thanks but i am not asking how to edit by the way. I was asking "which FILE i need to work on it" at the beginning. Rest of it is my problem. I will handle it. I just need the filename.

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vulcancolak
vulcancolak


Known Hero
posted April 22, 2017 09:20 PM

1 month passed and project suspended for a while.

Reason: Look at the first post. I haven't found the things i need and it seems nobody knows.

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verriker
verriker


Honorable
Legendary Hero
Too Many Erwin Spoil The Broth
posted April 22, 2017 09:37 PM

you keep asking "where is the file just tell me where the file is" mate but as said above you cannot edit most of those things in your list without painstaking hex editing the exe of the game, the exe is the file, there is no other one to edit other than the exe because they are hard coded lol
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