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Elvin
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posted May 29, 2017 03:10 PM

Actually that would count as spam so..
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Kipshasz
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Elvin's Darkside
posted May 29, 2017 03:25 PM

Elvin said:
Actually that would count as spam so..


Back in the day, samrt guys like that would've already been penalised into oblivion.

Make HC troll free again.
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Corribus
Corribus

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The Abyss Staring Back at You
posted May 29, 2017 04:28 PM

Inserting an eyesore signature manually to your posts will be considered junk posting.
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frostysh
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Bad-mannered
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WHY?
posted May 30, 2017 11:42 AM
Edited by frostysh at 11:54, 30 May 2017.

The_Polyglot said:
Your signature privileges have been revoked. Manually inserting a signature-lookalike into your posts circumvents that restriction. While you wouldn't be breaking the letter of the law, you'll be violating its spirit. From then on, moderators may choose to punish you for it, if they feel it's warranted.
As I remembered, there is no label "Administrator/Moderator member" under mr The_Polyglot's account, and I saw no any warnings like "your signature has been revoked" . It's more looks like somebody just have changed the allowed size of the sign-stuff, fromm 500 pixels to 100, or something like that, and ahh, any signatures that excited sych range has been deleted automatically, but maybe it is just a special procedure for the frostysh' account , who knows.
Kipshasz said:
Back in the day, samrt guys like that would've already been penalised into oblivion. Make HC troll free again.
Back in the days, where peoples throwing their wastes through the windows and think that the Earth is the center of the Universe... Nevermind. I mean I always was free, as far as I can remembered, free of the any ideas, insane dreams, utopical visions, and the any ideologies regardless by whom this stuff created. And despite of my life was, and probably will be, sometimes not very good, this freedom thing was an invariant. And nothing, and nobody was able to force me to become a slave of such stuff! And I am a very proud about that, we can even say it is the one of the main thing that frostysh can be proud in his life. Well, of course it is the Luck, mostly. And of course frostysh can be forced to do something that he don't want to do, but deep inside frostysh will still the same, it is almost impossible to change. Probably if will be created device that can reprogram human' Brain Memories, well, then to change the frostysh inside may be possible, but still I think the "flashbacks" will appear sooner, or later, this is my intuition , and with time, frostysh will start to make the same choice that before.

Buut, it is hard to explain to such freeman, ahh pure follower and ahh one of the brilliant prophets of the no doubts future of the natural order on the planet Earth, where genetically pure nations will be nailed to their naturally or the god-selected areal , as with no doubts mr Kipshasz is . Of course you don't need to pay attention on such nonsense as frostysh typing, and his pathetic life experience, and so on, coz' you have ahh, a noble goal, a holy mission, etc .

I am little bit sorry, my inner sarcasm flows out for a while.
Corribus said:
Inserting an eyesore signature manually to your posts will be considered junk posting.
Hmm, weird, during a ~year after Adminger allowed to frostysh use that banner, it was no like "eyesore", but now it is . And with no doubts if the same stuff will be placed upper for a ~15 pixels from it's normal position in the place for the signature, in the posts it will make it eyesore with 100% . In addition my sign was in the all posts, and now it will be only in some post... Ahh, neverming.
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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
posted May 30, 2017 12:12 PM

frostysh said:
coz' you have ahh, a noble goal, a holy mission, etc .


The problem with junk-posting is that it's junk-posting. Let's take your last update in your "The matter of choice - Philosophy" thread:

Quote:
I must to travel today, but I have sleep out the time where I was need to wake up. Phahha. Okay, will travel another day. Also i have swallowed a home-made pizza like stuff, and I think I have eat too much... Coz I feel not very good.
Solved another few basics problems, and feels happy about ^^. frostysh is feels smarty . It seems in few countries VK.COM resource is blocked, Whahahaha, well I will better goin into FACEBOOK.COM then.


To be honest it's a bit of a shame because "The matter of choice - Philosophy" could imo be a very interesting topic of discussion in the OSM, and spawn life to great posting if you accepted to change your approach.
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frostysh
frostysh


Bad-mannered
Famous Hero
WHY?
posted May 30, 2017 01:09 PM

Galaad said:
The problem with junk-posting is that it's junk-posting. Let's take your last update in your "The matter of choice - Philosophy" thread:
To be honest it's a bit of a shame because "The matter of choice - Philosophy" could imo be a very interesting topic of discussion in the OSM, and spawn life to great posting if you accepted to change your approach.
I think there is a little bit misunderstanding , especially in the definition of the "junk-posting". My posts is looks "junk-posting" to you mr Galaad, but for frostysh it is OK . And I like my posts, I am usually reading my own poss, and I think the thread like that I have started about Philosophy and stuff helped to me much. You see mr Galaad, I am in continuous state of challenging my beliefs, I am always have doubts in my decisions, my "life-path", etc. And such threads helps to me for a little bit. And I am a very emotional person ^^, so such thing helping to me to become more steady .
And my garbage laying in "spam-branch", and even more, I have tried hard to set up my stuff in not so many thread, I mean I am trying to create less threads, and using just "EDIT" stuff. So imho, it is not such a big problem for this forum.

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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
posted May 30, 2017 05:09 PM
Edited by Galaad at 17:24, 30 May 2017.

frostysh said:
I think there is a little bit misunderstanding , especially in the definition of the "junk-posting". My posts is looks "junk-posting" to you mr Galaad, but for frostysh it is OK . And I like my posts, I am usually reading my own poss, and I think the thread like that I have started about Philosophy and stuff helped to me much. You see mr Galaad, I am in continuous state of challenging my beliefs, I am always have doubts in my decisions, my "life-path", etc. And such threads helps to me for a little bit. And I am a very emotional person ^^, so such thing helping to me to become more steady .
And my garbage laying in "spam-branch", and even more, I have tried hard to set up my stuff in not so many thread, I mean I am trying to create less threads, and using just "EDIT" stuff. So imho, it is not such a big problem for this forum.



*sigh*

It is true that you are spamming less lately and put less eyesore in your posts (huge colors, armada of smileys, tons of pictures etc) and I am sure everyone is grateful to you for that.

Of course, the quality of a post is for a lot of times purely subjective: is it funny, is the posting style entertaining, is it a subject of interest, is it intellectually stimulating, does it provoke the incentive to participate in a constructive manner, etc. So yes, I believe you when you say you think posting in public forums that you feel bad because you ate too much pizza or that you feel smart after you made some personal performance is of great interest. However, like in any community, there is many criteria that can help structure things a bit to avoid chaos.
For example, a post that is purely informative, in comparison to yours, will be considered useful for the community. A post that reflects a true reflexion and a genuine will to communicate with others and not only for yourself will be considered of better quality than yours. Etc.
Therefore, there is a general standard that applies to this forum, and the +QP (red stars) system being a unique feature strongly encourages users to try having everyone benefit from their posting. Trying to make posts that are appreciated not only by the poster but also to the most possible users is part of the spirit of this place. Of course, it is absolutely not mandatory to do good contributions, it is no obligation to be appreciated by other forum members either, and as long as you don't antagonize or aggravate others, you shouldn't have any trouble. However, as there is a scaling in quality, there is also a scaling going on the other way around -junk. When you make an average of the overall posts of HC, you will definitely notice which got a better reception than others, which gave life to meaningful discussions, entertaining activity or sparkled heated debates, and which are simply considered to be annoying or an eyesore. Please take the time to imagine the following situation: one poster adores his posts but he is the only one adoring them, while 90% if not more of the people around either expressed their discontentment about them or are actively ignoring it wishing for it to stop. Which do you think are the posts, looking back at the average of posting in the forums, that will be considered to be junk-posting, despite your opinion being opposite to it?
I think I remember you saying you got banned from many forums already and that you have a hard time dealing with people in the real life too, yet you keep proudly saying you will never do anything about the causes of such consequences, so I don't understand what is your purpose: are you waiting to be banned from here as well, are you waiting to be banned from every single Internet forum in existence that you would like to post in, are you waiting to have emptied the patience of all the people who tried to communicate with you until they become extenuated enough to simply go away from you? And for what?
I could be wrong but I feel you have some irrational fear that, if you change your behavior in society, it will affect who you are in the inside. I don't know how old you are, but my guess is I'm older than you, so please accept to listen to me if I tell you that: NO, it doesn't change who you are. It is simply the faculty to adapt in an environment that may appear hostile to you, and is actually a sign of intelligence I am sure anyone is capable of, given he has the will to do it. But then you will probably ask me, why bother? Probably you feel perfectly fine the way you are and honestly there is nothing wrong you with you feeling that too. But then, you also need to accept it when you interact with people, and constantly contesting the remarks anyone would tell you, usually with the best intentions (even Kip in his way), I simply cannot see it another way than you are advancing backwards in that path of life you are mentioning. The problem will always remain as long as you don't want to confront it, as long as you don't want to work on yourself.

Why don't you simply ask yourself, wouldn't it be awesome if people actually got interested by your posting and give you responses that will be useful for you? You often ask for help and advice on various stuff, but most of the replies are ranging from negative attention to ignore (you had a few genuine constructive replies at first, but they rapidly stopped to happen). Only you have the power to change that and turn things around, why don't you do that? There is literally no harm that will happen to you. If you seek human interaction to share your thoughts, doubts and anything that would make you go forward in your life, certainly doing an effort -as unnecessary or disproportionately big it would seem to be for you- so that most people will stop consider your posting to be junk can only create some good, for and around you. It is exactly the same in the real life. And believe me, what you can receive from others will always be invaluably more precious than the self-satisfaction one can get by enjoying himself alone.
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frostysh
frostysh


Bad-mannered
Famous Hero
WHY?
posted June 01, 2017 03:09 PM

Hey, thanx mr Galaad for your time, I have read and copy-pasted your answer into a text-file related to this particular forum.
What can I say... well:

1) My post is oriented on the common audithory, or peoples like a frostysh, and I am trying to not make any chaos in your community, users asked me to not create a lot of topic and I am trying, users asked to not use a lot of pictures, and I am trying, not a problem. And yeah, I feel better when I am posting some of my feelings on the public place, it is psychological stuff. And yeah, I thought that I will obtain a ban there (coz' of some particular ideologic stuff of some administration members) the same as in the other forums, and then I just living forum, and no return, but for now my account is still ok, and it is cool, coz' I like this forum for the one special thing - it's weight in terms of data downloading , and design, old-skool "black-on-white" fonts is ok too.
2) I had, and I have no any wishes to make disturbance on this forum, to this forum rules or something like that. I don't even thought about that. I just express my opinions about some things, nothing more. To be more preciously, about some ideologies, and it is hard to explain, but when you see a different opinion, especially which you cannot debunk with standard stuff that you have get during a life experience, you getting somekind of an ability to make your own choice, even if this ability has been taken away long time ago by some ideology, for an example. Yep, I have a very dark humor, and lot of sarcasm, which sometimes considered as a trolling. I have no single interest in s-graphy stuff of this forum, I am sorry, maybe sometime, somewhere when I will be able to understand posts of this forum members, and etc... But not now. If most of users think that my posts is junk, what I can to do, it's their own decision, for an example, if I may be on their place, I may not think so.
3) For what? It is a very good question mr Galaad, and a very dangerous, I will not advice you to use such questions if you want to be happy during your life and if you want stay with your "ideology" a "Reason Datre" of your kind in the future Whahaha. I am sorry, my frigging inner dark humor getting outside sometimes
So where the hell we stopped, Ahh. For what? I have no simple answers to this question. It is hard to explain, something intentionally and in the same time not.
4) Well, it is difficult to explain, in short I am just stupid and not careful Yeah...
--- a) The age of humans which I have discussion is means almost nothin' to me. I have saw the very old guys with the hell lot of life experience, and they decided to stay with their madness and horror. And I have saw a very young peoples which have asked a very dangerous question and don't accept brainwashing stuff for so easy, at least for some time...
--- b) I have lot of irrational fears, as I have said, I am a very emotional person. Mr Galaad, as I have said a many time, for me the particular human is means the choices of this particular human taking during the life, nothing more. In case of frostysh, sometimes I taking a wrong choices, well, to be more preciously, the unsafe choices, so what, all peoples can make a mistake. But to take for me a bad choice, an evil-like choices, hmm, it's required something truly horrible that can broke my power of will, and even in this case, deep inside I will be the same, and always will try to find the exit, even this exit is not exist. Not mr Galaad, ideologies like "mr Kip" follows have no any effect on frostysh, frostysh have almost 100% immunity to this stuff, so they cannot make influence on my choices. Most peoples that follow this ideologies will be not able even to understand me, I don't even speak about accepting my stuff, at least from my life experience, or probably I am too pessimistic . And I am not trying for too much to adopt to "the hostile environment", I just sometimes trying to bring back to the peoples the ability to make their own choice. That's all.
5) I am asking for advises in the clear and straight manner, to answers or to not answers, it is the personal choice of the any users of this, or of the other forums.
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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
posted June 01, 2017 06:40 PM

frostysh said:
3) For what? It is a very good question mr Galaad, and a very dangerous, I will not advice you to use such questions if you want to be happy during your life and if you want stay with your "ideology" a "Reason Datre" of your kind in the future Whahaha. I am sorry, my frigging inner dark humor getting outside sometimes


Just FYI, it's spelled "Raison d'Ítre", reason of being, to be in french is Ítre, reason as you can surely guess, is raison.
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verriker
verriker


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Legendary Hero
Walterwin Mitty
posted June 01, 2017 07:18 PM

no mate not to teach your grandmother to suck on an egg but it is actually Raisin Detra, the tasty treat of Kellogg's which will give you a reason to exist because it is so tasty that you will want to live on and have another bowl in the next time cheers lol


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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
posted June 01, 2017 07:23 PM

I stand corrected.
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frostysh
frostysh


Bad-mannered
Famous Hero
WHY?
posted June 04, 2017 11:16 PM
Edited by frostysh at 23:28, 04 Jun 2017.

Well, humans trying to find this "Reason datre" (I cannot spell it proper on French language stuff, so I am simplifying it) from the very beginning of their consciousness life, even being a young children, I think it is someking of the instinct, or special reflex-neurocircuit stuff that appearing in early child age during socialization, Idkn. But the main point, many things, a many systems is designed to abuse such instinct (as the many other instincts) to manipulate a large masses of peoples. My signature, the part of it, the particular part, expressed my feelings about that.

Eric Hoffer(1976AD)-Communism, Albert Einstein(1929AD)-Nationalism, Steven Weinberg(1999AD)-Religion



But unfortunately, due to manipulations with setting of sig. of this forum, my signature has been disappeared, and due to the status of ma' account there, I cannot return it in normal way, so I need manually to put this stuff in my posts, at least 1 per forum page.

Also my signature have many other functions: for an example, it's has been used to help to avoid discussions with some particular categories of the users of the Internet, in particular Religion guys (well, I sometimes have to talk with them, but unfortunately the discussions was always in same pattern), Natio guys, well till now my RL experience and Internet stuff, I still have found nothing interesting there, and Commi guys from my experience, this guys are more complicated than previous ones, sometimes even too much, but imho they more like a "walking calculating machines" than a normal peoples, as Scientist has mentioned from "Fail Safe 1964AD" the movie, I mean they likah' have no soul, or something like that, it's hard to explain, anyway I think their stuff wrong as hell.
Of course this is a VERY subjective conclusions based only on the particular self-experience but not on general statistic, so it is cannot be used for a comprehensive comparing of the peoples-categories.

P.S. I hate to divide peoples on categories
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Valeriy
Valeriy

Mage of the Land
Naughty, Naughty Valeriy
posted June 05, 2017 04:39 AM
Edited by Valeriy at 04:56, 05 Jun 2017.

As I said earlier, I do not object to the promotion of TOR within the HC signature guidelines. I haven't reset your signature so unless another moderator did it may have stopped showing due to your QP count of -3. Losing a red star is an indication that the way you're acting on the forums is not in line with the community principles of HC. I suggest addressing it. You can ask the moderators who issued the penalties to give you advice for how you can improve your forum conduct.

On a related subject I deliberately avoid inserting any Google or Facebook things into HC. So unless something comes through accidentally through an ad network, HC is one of the very few sites where Google is not watching you. Unless you are using Google Chrome to browse it.
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frostysh
frostysh


Bad-mannered
Famous Hero
WHY?
posted June 05, 2017 07:43 AM
Edited by frostysh at 07:49, 05 Jun 2017.

imho, the moderators guys not killed my sig directly, but just changes the parameters of it, and then my sig has been killed by the program, automatically combining with the fact that I cannot edit it via normal way, resulting in the poor fact that I have no normal sig. Nevermind. I have obtain enough advises how to "improve" my posting, at least for now my posts not screw any good moral laws or the any state laws (EU I mean) in general, so it is ok .
Valeriy said:
On a related subject I deliberately avoid inserting any Google or Facebook things into HC. So unless something comes through accidentally through an ad network, HC is one of the very few sites where Google is not watching you. Unless you are using Google Chrome to browse it.
I don't remember that I have inserted such thing into my sig, nor my posts. Anyway, if not the Uncle Google then the Uncle YandexRU, there is no another variants nor exit . I am sorry, just kidding with my standard dark humor, and I have no doubts the evil Google on this particular a very important resource have no any power, and don't "watching" the honest and ahh kind users of this suite.

About the browsers which I am using, it is mostly TOR BB, or LYNX, sometimes Mozilla/Opera, I have tried Chrome, but it consuming too much of resources of my machine, and have a huge amount of data to download it's just incompatible with my Inter. Connection, but actually I have (and always had) a poor care about being watching by the "Big Guys" ("TBG"), I think they have a much more important problems and tasks (such as to kill each others ), so they have a no single care about a poor and weak mortals such as frostysh is - Again, I am sorry, it is hard to hold down my inner sarcasm.

P.S. Thanx for the responses!
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