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Thread: Kingdoms
Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted September 09, 2017 12:32 PM
Edited by Galaad at 13:02, 10 Sep 2017.

Kingdoms



Please use this thread to discuss Kingdoms. Any tips, questions, feedback, etc
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Brukernavn
Brukernavn

Hero of Order
posted September 09, 2017 02:46 PM

The official FAQ covers the most common questions:
https://news.creaturequest.com/kingdoms

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Avonu
Avonu


Responsible
Supreme Hero
Embracing light and darkness
posted September 10, 2017 07:31 AM bonus applied by Galaad on 10 Sep 2017.
Edited by Avonu at 12:01, 25 Oct 2017.

Few tips from me:

- Kingdom need a lot of resources to expand. While you can get them all from quests or from Kingdom's mines, IMO the most precious are scrolls. So build and upgrade libraries whenever you have chance. Also, always try to buy their upgrades first. You will need a lot of scrolls to research upgrades.

- Three new quests are designed to farm Kingdom's resources (especially higher rank ones):
- Might over Meowgic (small creatures map) gives you first and most wood (Squire and Knight gives you ironbark, Lord+ gives you enchanted Ironbark),
- Tomb Riders (medium creatures map) gives you ore (Squire and Knight gives you mithril, Lord+ gives you enchanted mithril),
- Knight Time (large creatures) gives you sulphur and mercury (Squire and Knight gives you brimestone and quicksilver, Lord+ gives you enchanted brimstone/quicksilver).
While you can get all basic resources from normal maps too, these three are the best places to farm them, until your kingdom will be big enough to sustain itself.
Other maps to farm basic level resources: Might over Magic (wood), Pyrat Plunder (ore), Battle of the Bards (sulphur), Bewitching Bayou (mercury).

- Kingdom need renown to expand and upgrade your castle. You get renown by building new buildings and by upgrading them. You have limited space, so upgrades will become essential after some time.

- You need a lot of scrolls to research need upgrades (200/300/400/etc.), so choose wisely what to research first. IMO Libriaries are prioryty with Sawmill and Ore mines next ones.
If you are low of low level tomes to upgrade Libriaries, do Shadow in the Sand, Scorched Earth, The Ivory Excavation and Ogre the Top (if this event is available) on squire difficult. Use Quick Quest option - it will use only 50 energy and 1 quick battle coin, instead of much more energy. The reward (in tomes) is not so different.

- Your Kingdom has place for limited number of buildings. Even max explored Kingdom lacks place for 4 buildings. IMO Treasures are the least worth to place them but you can also resign from 1 of each wood/ore/sulphur/mercury mine (there are 4 of each btw).

- You can remove buildings from map and build something else on their place. Your removed building will not lost it level and upgrades.

- If you have more buildings than space to place them on Kingdom map, you can still upgrade your unused buildings. Place them on map, upgrade as much as you want and remove them. Their renown is stil added to Kingdom renown, even if they are in "reserve".

- Building production is depended of its level and creature stars number. Aweken creature (with red stars) is counted as additional level - so while common creature has 3 stars, fully awaken common has 6 stars (same number as boss). Use you fully awaken creatures (especially bosses) wisely.

- Gem mines production is depended of its level - low level gem mines produce small gems, while higher level ones medium gems for example. Gem colour is depended of creature which "work" there. So red creatures (Phoenix for example) will produce red gems, while black creatures (Dark Elf for example) will product black gems, etc.

- Once per day your Kingdom is visited by 3 traders. They can sell you resources for tickets, tokens or even diamonds. While it's always good to buy from them, it's up to you if you want to buy their resources. If you are low with tickets or tokens for example, it's better to save them for other things.
Lady in the Lake trader (Castle 9 lvl) sell stuff for 25/50/99 diamonds. She has not so bad stuff (quick coins, totems, some better grade resources or even epic essences or colour idols) but IMO diamonds are too important to spent them there every day.

- You can use Rush option for mines (in their panel), to get their resources now... for a price of few diamonds. Rush has a cooldown, so you only can use it once for a while. No, removing building from map and placing it again won't reset Rush option.

- While low level Kingdom is easy to expand, higher levels will cost much resources and more gold. So do at least once per day (or even twice) The Wealthiest Tavern quest whenever its available, so you never won't be short of gold.

- You will need tokens to upgrade your Castle, so it is always a good idea to have about 500-1000 in reserve.


That's all for now, have fun building your own kingdom.
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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted September 10, 2017 12:58 PM

Nice!

My current Renown is 1597, my Castle lvl is 10 and ATM I produce 296 scrolls a day, I will be able to research Academy II very soon.

Nice headsup for the Lady of the Lake, I'm not giving her any of my precious diamonds until her rewards are worth the price!
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ucel
ucel

Tavern Dweller
posted September 11, 2017 12:21 PM

TIP: Use old good "Might over Magic" quest to get some wood. MoM on king provides over 1000 wood pro run.
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Antalex
Antalex


Hired Hero
posted September 11, 2017 10:53 PM

Well,  

 i have a rep of 1676 up to now (can be more but collecting resources for castle upgrade since it will give me Forts...

I have a few questions though if anyone can answer:
- if you look at the constructed building list, you see the number of buldings that are ut in place is always less than the available buildings (i have 18/20 now) but there is no space to build them actually. And the more you enlarge the kingdom, the more the gap will increase.

Number of wood produced is way much more than ore (at same building level). this is making the result to produce unwanted resources that cannot be exchanged (if there was a way to exchange...)

Production of scrolls is extremely low : can it be upgraded ?  Need 400 scrolls for the minimum upgrade so it will become very slow...

Any idea is appreciated.

Thanks )

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Antalex
Antalex


Hired Hero
posted September 11, 2017 10:59 PM

Found it for library for scrolls...

still searching for the number of buildings...
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reyto
reyto


Hired Hero
posted September 13, 2017 11:58 AM

Btw, Maiden of the lake's text says that it has great creatures.

I did all kind of summons, 25, 50, and 99 diamond worth. The loot was always some materials of different grades. Totally not worth of spent diamonds.

So...is Maiden's text completely misleading or is there a chance to get a creature with a good number of dots besides materials? Anyone experienced that?


Another question: summoning ticket events, when when when?

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Antalex
Antalex


Hired Hero
posted September 13, 2017 08:16 PM

I got a hunchback 3dots from lady of the lake.

I did try twice.
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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted September 13, 2017 09:39 PM

Antalex said:
I got a hunchback 3dots from lady of the lake.


I think you were incredibly lucky.
Gratz
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angelito
angelito


Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
posted September 17, 2017 12:48 PM

I think the color shrines are really great. The 4 base colors are available with Castle level 15, black and white join with castle level 16.

You raise the stats of all your creeps with those shrines...go for it!
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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted October 15, 2017 11:35 AM

So Castle 20 gives a greater essence along a Legendary Idol, nice.
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Bragjul
Bragjul


Adventuring Hero
aka Titanu88
posted October 15, 2017 05:46 PM

Galaad said:
So Castle 20 gives a greater essence along a Legendary Idol, nice.

What? Where?? I just leveled my castle to 20 and I didnt get any greater essence or legendary idol

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Markmasters
Markmasters


Famous Hero
Dragon of justice
posted October 15, 2017 06:56 PM
Edited by Markmasters at 18:57, 15 Oct 2017.

Galaad said:
So Castle 20 gives a greater essence along a Legendary Idol, nice.


mythic idol right? i got an epic from the chest

@bragjul it's in the explorable areas in your kingdom

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Bragjul
Bragjul


Adventuring Hero
aka Titanu88
posted October 16, 2017 09:48 AM

Markmasters said:
Galaad said:
So Castle 20 gives a greater essence along a Legendary Idol, nice.


mythic idol right? i got an epic from the chest

@bragjul it's in the explorable areas in your kingdom


Nope it is not.

I understand now what Galaad want to say, he mean that you will receive a greater essence together with a LEGENDARY idol when reaching castle lvl 20 AND exploring ALL terrain ares in your kingdom. I also got those

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Rakshasa92
Rakshasa92


Famous Hero
posted October 17, 2017 10:19 AM
Edited by Galaad at 10:26, 17 Oct 2017.

Thanks to this feature, i'm giving up on playing Challenge.

I had like 20 Challenge Points, wasted them all on loosing to level 149 (myself being level 351) wallet warriors that won because they always have the same team: Hyena, two four dot boarmen, stoneface that makes team immortal, nymph that heals and can't die. While my own team doesn't even collect enough mana to survive to the first round. And when I finally kill a single creature, they always ressurect again.

So yeah, i'm done with this part of the game.

Have fun with the wallet people and their endless money.

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AlHazin
AlHazin


Promising
Supreme Hero
Tutto possibile
posted October 17, 2017 12:57 PM
Edited by AlHazin at 12:52, 25 Oct 2017.

In the research library

Don't forget in case you overlooked it, that the golden tongue research not only lowers the amount of tickets and tokens you need to buy from merchants but also the diamonds you use to buy from the coloured babes bathing in the lake = D.


Tips and tircks:

In the beginning, don't spend any ressources on gem mines. Those are too expensive to be gainful. Indeed if you need gems, know that it is way easier to get them by farming at the corresponding great wish quest colour.

The first thing to do is focusing on leveling up wood and ore facilities because you'll be needing those two ressources extensively. You also can if you want invest in the gold-producing buildings to help you with some extra gold. But here too, the most efficient way to replenish your gold pool will be by farming The Wealthiest Tavern quest specifically designed for that purpose.

You can put some sulfur and mercury mines to get you a small production of those two rare ressources. In the beginning they won't be that needed but as you level up your structures you'll start noticing their importance. Those two are farmable mainly at the Epic quest, but can be found in respectively in Battle of Bards and the Swamps quests.

Don't try anything else until level 10 of the castle imo, after having set a stable economical infrastructure, you can start building and developping the main aim of the kingdom features: shrines, that divide into two categories: the tier shrines (keeps) that boost the HP of all creatures of a specific tier regardless of colours, and the colour shrines that boost every other stat but based on colours regardless of tier, besides mana of course.


Tier shrines or keeps:




Go for those first. Those are adapted to the three quests you'll often be farming, those which require a certain tier of creatures. Moreover, a huge HP boost is crucial most of the time. This is also the secret of strong dungeons imo: Having all creatures double their HP will simply make them twice as durable, giving them more time to neutrelize the enemy, particularly handy when defending against an astral team where if fully awoken it will resurrect and make others resurrect upon death, your defense will have time to kill everybody twice.


Coloured shrines:




Colour shrines can come in a second time, those aim more at giving you the possibilities of beating the great wish quests on higher difficulties, as you will face only one colour and will logically bring creatures of the counter colour to fight them.

The shrines play an important role particularly for Dark and White creatures. The reason being that both are effective against the other and the only way to ensure winning is by having an edge against your foe. Since you're strong and vulnerable at the same time, the one with higher stats will be stonger and less vulnerable. In these kinds of encounters, time plays a major role too. In Black vs White fights (or the opposite) the one who acts quicker is the one who wins, so it's a good idea to have a lot of White combo dots in your team when you fave Dark creatures with a white team.

Overall, the shrines will boost you creatures to be able to rank high in dungeon challenge, beat the highest difficulties in quest, and making tower a piece of cake.


The ressources you'll most likely know the greatest shortage of are neither the wood/ore or the enchanted iron ecorce/enchated mithril, but the ironbark ecorce* and the mithril. Be sure to play the Common and Rare quests on knight defficulty regularly.


A large quantity of tomes is needed for the libraries at their lower levels. Be sure to play the Two-coloured quests on knight difficulty as well. After some levels, higher quality tomes are needed and those are farmable at higher difficulties.



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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
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posted October 25, 2017 11:33 AM
Edited by Galaad at 12:01, 25 Oct 2017.

I heard passed a certain Castle level (dunno which) the merchants will mostly give you sulphur and mercury, which you need a lot for later, but before that wood and ore is CRUCIAL. So it might be good not to rush the Castle too much without upgrading wood and ore mines to higher levels first.
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Avonu
Avonu


Responsible
Supreme Hero
Embracing light and darkness
posted October 25, 2017 11:58 AM

AlHazin said:
The ressources you'll most likely know the greatest shortage of are neither the wood/ore or the enchanted iron ecorce/enchated mithril, but the iron ecorce and the mithril. Be sure to play the Common and Rare quests on knight defficulty regularly.

It's called Ironbark in English.
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