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artu
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posted December 09, 2017 09:22 PM
Edited by artu at 21:25, 09 Dec 2017.

blizz said:
Almost any mind altering substance is going to have a high addiction rate and JJ's explanation is what is used in most recovery programs.

Naturally, because the best way to escape is to alter the mind. That's why people drink more after a traumatic event such as loss of loved ones or break ups etc than, say, eat ice-cream like crazy. (But that is also something people do.)

The thing is then, how altered you need your mind to be? Which is actually fitting like a glove to what JJ and I have been saying. If your aim is to be just a little tipsy, if that cuts it for you, neither alcohol or weed would throw you off the cliff, as heroin or meth would. But if "tipsy" is not enough to escape, than you'll do more and it will have greater effect on your character accordingly. Your friend probably stoned himself to oblivion non-stop, which is not the typical way most weed smokers behave.
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posted December 09, 2017 09:27 PM

AlHazin said:
And whatís the solution to fill that hole and completely get rid of the addiction?


From personal experience, the best way to get rid of an addiction is to prohibiting you from being able to get it. For example, for my smoking addiction which lasted for 15 years and was serious, I simply transferred all my bank accounts to someone then during several months was given just the minimum for food, no other spending at all. It works fantastic.
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posted December 09, 2017 10:06 PM

Smoking is a special addiction because it CREATES a shwllow hole that you can situationally fill (by smoking) which is addictive in itself. It's like creating an itch and enjoying the scratch.

Generally, an addiction is only a problem, when it has negative side effects. If it doesn't, it's no problem, and there are countless examples for these. So an addiction must have negative side effects, otherwise - who cares? Which means - the first step is realizing that you OBSESSIVELY do something that has negative side effects. Say - you have an eating disorder and weigh 180 kg. You look crappy, you don't get a date, your clothes don*t fit and you're always hungry.

The seond step is - you need help! You obviously have a problem, and that problem, well, at least it has to be identified. Best, if it would be solved, but that might be quite difficult.

But the first step is ALWAYS: admit you have a problem.

Except when you are smoking. When you are smoking you don't have a problem. You just like the feeling that comes from having a slight problem and solve it momentarily. It's control of well-feeling. Now I'm feeling a slight discomfort of slight withdrawal. NOW I feel the satisfaction aof curing it - and you are in control, that's the beauty.

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posted December 09, 2017 11:02 PM
Edited by Skeggy at 18:32, 10 Dec 2017.

It's not all in chemistry, something is in biology too. I was a cigarette and tobacco smoker for 20 years and I couldnít stop. All the time I smoked, I also used vitamin supplementation to lessen the effects of nicotine addiction. After some time I just stop hoping that Iíll ever be able to stop. I was smoking pack, pack and a half, to two pack per day.
It feels weird to actually share this experience because it sounds like a commercial so I will not write the productís name but Iíll describe what the product has in itself.
Talk to your doctor I suppose.
Of all the supplements Iíve tried only one of them actually made me free of nicotine addiction. The one that had IgG Immunoglobulins (gamma globulins immunoglobulins) in itself.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma_globulin
I was taking 1 gram of IgG Immunoglobulins (gamma globulins immunoglobulins) per day for about a month. I didnít really aim for ending my nicotine addiction, just raising the personal health standards, but thatís what happened. Puff, just totally effing gone.
That was two years ago, I didnít had to repeat the therapy or anything.

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posted December 10, 2017 12:06 AM
Edited by Blizzardboy at 00:16, 10 Dec 2017.

AlHazin said:
And whatís the solution to fill that hole and completely get rid of the addiction?









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Salamandre
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posted December 10, 2017 12:24 AM

Only in Murica.
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Galaad
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posted December 10, 2017 12:40 AM

Oh yes of course I tried it, kinda cool being able to say "Hello, I want to purchase some marijuana pls" in legal shop. However, it's placebo, THC is less than 1%, there is some other substance called CBO that they have at around 20%, makes you chill out a bit, a bit like drinking tea.
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posted December 10, 2017 12:52 AM
Edited by Blizzardboy at 00:54, 10 Dec 2017.

Marijuana and tea are basically identical. When I can't get my hands on a fat joint I just brew up some breakfast blend with orange peel and a touch of cinnamon.
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posted December 10, 2017 01:37 AM

Salamandre said:
Stopped smoking tobacco 6 years ago (after 15 years of not stop)then had to try again a few weeks ago because some doctors told me hashish may have good effects on sleep. After 4 days of smoking once every evening, I started to feel the need of the drug now and then, after 1 week I wanted it every morning after wake up, then every 2-3 hours, then continuously after 2 weeks. The worst aspects of drugs are not in the effects, but in the dependence, which then creates the effects.
Melatonine. <3

(seriously - it's awesome, 100% natural, no side effects and finally got to sleep like a normal person after almost a quarter of a decade with ADHD.

OT: I'm more of an alcohol person. I've seen how people go crazy thanks to weed and it ain't pretty. Okay with legalisation for medical use (we already use variants of opium and amphetamine after all...), but in other cases it just becomes a quite horrible exploitation of poor and vulnerable people. Lefties should under stand that better than anyone else lol..
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posted December 10, 2017 01:44 AM
Edited by Blizzardboy at 02:18, 10 Dec 2017.

Well I'm definitely a "leftie" I suppose, and not just with my hand The best politics is usually done with tools of precision instead of blunt objects. And there needs to be good data and science involved, not hippy sentimentality driving decisions.

So... Drugs do pull down the lower class, but not always just the lower class. The most recent heroine crisis in the States is heavily affecting white middle class.

There is such a thing as decriminalizing drugs while still going after big distributors, combined with a good clinic program to take the social stigma of addiction away.  Portugal has been very successful with this for the past 16 years, excluding the retards in Lisbon that frequent the tourist areas offering drugs. Portugal has gradually sunk to the one of the lowest usages of drugs after so many people were saying all hell would break loose.

Imo the model should be adopted. Enough time has passed to see it is working.
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Galaad
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posted December 10, 2017 02:16 AM

Drugs are expensive, high class likes it.
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posted December 10, 2017 02:47 AM
Edited by Blizzardboy at 02:48, 10 Dec 2017.

Salamandre said:
Only in Murica.


Large quantities of pig meat can cure almost any ailment. Don't come back here crying when you are a broken man giving blowjobs on the street for your fix.
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posted December 10, 2017 11:49 AM

Blizzhardcoreboy said:
Censored explicit photos of naked bacon.


From what it looks like, I prefer eating my own pancreas.
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posted December 10, 2017 12:11 PM

Is not about quantities, but about the mixtures in your pics. That would instantly kill any french, they have delicate tastes.
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posted December 10, 2017 08:42 PM
Edited by Blizzardboy at 20:53, 10 Dec 2017.

Wahhabi Military Insurgent said:
Blizzhardcoreboy said:
Censored explicit photos of naked bacon.



I will outfit bacon in janissary battle rainment to avoid future scandal upon the eyes.

I also don't recommend being a Hannibal Lector and eating your pancreas. It's an organ bro.
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posted December 10, 2017 08:44 PM

Salamandre said:
Is not about quantities, but about the mixtures in your pics. That would instantly kill any french, they have delicate tastes.


One bite of the pulled pork sandwich and you will be assimilated. If you want a more "fresh" taste it also works to pile the cabbage slaw on top of the meat. Goes well together.
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posted December 10, 2017 09:59 PM

Blizzardboy said:
Wahhabi Military Insurgent said:
Blizzhardcoreboy said:
Censored explicit photos of naked bacon.



I will outfit bacon in janissary battle rainment to avoid future scandal upon the eyes


I decline the fight, lady gaga.

And Hannibal was a berber god.
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posted December 16, 2017 06:15 PM

http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article189740009.html


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