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Galatea
Galatea


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posted October 23, 2018 07:46 AM

You guys are ACTUALLY doing it all the time.
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What if Elvin was female?
posted October 23, 2018 08:41 AM

Geny said:
While I agree with your general point, this isn't much different than D&D. Especially 5th edition. The fact that a character has 14 strength doesn't mean much, what matters are the modifiers. A common level 1 PC will have modifiers going from -1 to +3 more or less. This is bigger range than 1 to 3, but it is still comparable because it is still an order lower than the rolled d20 die. D&D handles it by adding equipment bonuses and proficiency bonuses, not by changing the die rolled. We, on the other hand... are still working out the kinks.

That being said, this forum's RPs have always been about creativity more than rules and mechanics, so I believe we'll make it work somehow.

DnD makes a lot more alterations than just those though, thereís HP roll for classes per level and attack bonus for classes per level for combat purposes.  Level 1 characters are complete noobs(villager, apprentice, teenager, amnesia, etc.) as well and pc characters gain levels relatively fast. Kipís Darkcloak character for example would be at least level 6 in DnD terms. In comparison a regular rogue would be 1-3 or so.

Actual DnD is 6d3 for stats so itís -2 to +4, thatís a maximum spread of 6 out of 20 for complete beginner characters. After a few more levels, what we would consider average competent person you get -2 to +5 plus feats, skills and first gear bonus. This is where your characters seem to be bio wise. Skills can give +10 at this point. Youíre getting to -2 to +18(with feat) in extreme cases. That means perfect twenty in DnD terms.

Anyways, if you want us to have divergent characters for dice rolling, bonuses like 1-4 are not meaningful enough to differentiate properly. Iíd advocate you just ditch the D20 and numbers for stats completely, thereís no reason for players to know that. Just give us disabled, low, average, high, genius and roll a d4 behind the scenes for actions with gm decided difficulties. Weíll never be none the wiser and everyone has fun.
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Galatea
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posted October 23, 2018 08:58 AM

I think you are just being heavy on the theme. When I said "Davenhills are great in archery.." doesn't mean they are Legolas-like at the start of the game. It's just some flavor text and gives support to their special ability.

I've been playing Castle Ravenloft and the fighter's bio says he never lost in battle but when I use him, he still loose ok?

If you don't want to have stats then, OK. I'll give you  a secret stat.

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posted October 23, 2018 02:04 PM

less banter, more character sheets.
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posted October 23, 2018 02:52 PM

Hah! Successfully uploaded the map lol! It's really huge. I don't know how to make it smaller. If somebody could lend me a help, work on that so it would look more sleek, please do so!
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posted October 23, 2018 03:00 PM

pro tip: next time use the grid paper, not lines. Wayyy better. Still, gj on the map.
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posted October 23, 2018 03:19 PM

Thanks Kip!

That was made possible by stealing time! I lack the drawing resources now. When I realized I could steal the time, I immediately took my budgeting notebook and pen, drew quickly and hoala!

On the other hand, I tried the site that you gave me about making logos. I fiddled a bit and it seems that I can't change the shield with banner to a shape that I wanted.

BNow, back to game! *finds stuff that needs work*


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posted October 23, 2018 04:00 PM

The heraldry creation tool is based on real, historic heraldry, and it tends to keep with the established rules of it. Therefore no shapes like circles and such.
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Galatea
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posted October 24, 2018 04:02 AM
Edited by Galatea at 04:07, 24 Oct 2018.

Ohh, I see! Do you know any other logo maker?

If somebody, anybody here have lots of free time and is willing to help they can make the insignia for the clans and convert the map too!

EDIT:

Updated Part IV. Added Library of Voldandriel info.
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posted October 24, 2018 09:13 AM

there's this, But I personally dislike the interface of it. And it too kinda sticks to general heraldic rules, as in shield shapes only.
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posted October 24, 2018 06:32 PM

I would also suggest to broaden the weapon categories a bit, since not all swords and axes and such would fall onto the "heavy" category.
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posted October 25, 2018 07:14 AM

I donít think heavy/light makes too much sense anyhow, more about finesse/momentum.

Say saber is finesse, mace is momentum. Both take strength to wield but of a different kind. Saber requires a lot of endurance due to the style itís held at a distance and cut from the wrist, mace is very front heavy and thus harder to move, requiring a bit more general strength to be effective(but not really all that much more.) Spear wielder can be extremely weak and still extremely effective because itís the speed that matters the most, especially for thrusts but also for other attacks. In general skill is far more important.

Strength isnít really a damage factor for anything melee(but it is for bows! The stronger you are the heavier the bow can be.) For melee weapons itís more of a minimum requirement. Someone with 1 strength should not be able to wield a rapier effectively while a longsword two-handed is relatively easy even for them. Yes you can technically swing faster if youíre stronger but weíre talking fractions.

But looking at the descriptions strength seems more of a general physical fitness stat and dexterity is more of a craftman type hand precision skill, like knitting, carving, sleight of hand kind of stuff. Iím sure thereís a word for that in English but it escapes me for the moment.

Physical fitness
Perception
Precision
Smarts
Will
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Galatea
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posted October 25, 2018 07:57 AM
Edited by Galatea at 11:30, 25 Oct 2018.

This mean?

EDIT:

Ok, I hear yah boys. Let me think about this later.

EDIT:

If you want this to be implemented, just post here the categories and the weapons and the corresponding stat required to use.

I didn't really broaden this part coz I don't want to think much about it.
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posted October 25, 2018 06:59 PM

It's probably not worth thinking too much over.

For example, bows are very easy to shoot as long as they are weak. The heavier they are, the more strength you need and the harder they become to shoot. So hitting something should be eyesight related but shooting a certain weight(damage/range) bow would be strength related. Shooting a bow over your strength limit would come with an accuracy penalty first, range penalty second, damage penalty third and finally with a straight up limit of not being able to draw the bow at all. Just for reference, normal hunting bows are like 30-60 lbs draw and warbows are 100-200 lbs draw. So a hunter, while extremely accurate, might not be even able to draw a warbow.

Crossbows size doesn't matter at all, anyone can fire a crossbow, it's very easy and strength doesn't matter because the reloading is done with mechanical advantage. Both missile weapons, both really different mechanics.

Which is why it's way easier to just say, hey, this guy knows how to use HIS/HER weapon, why bother doubting that? If they pick up a completely new weapon from an enemy or something, then check if it's anything like the old or if he has some other way experience with it. If it's completely new, just throw him a -1 to rolls if he's a fighter/-2 if he's not and be done with it.


There's also this whole thing that setting "class weapons" kinda doesn't make sense, for example, you gave mages staves. Quarterstaff is a really, really good weapon actually because of the reach. So expect my character to whoop ass against these puny dagger fellas

In short? It's too much trouble to be worth it if you're not familiar with a variety of weapons.
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Galatea
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posted October 27, 2018 09:46 AM
Edited by Galatea at 12:21, 27 Oct 2018.

Updated the following:

-Level 0 Caster Spells. Will have for non casters soon!
-Mechanics
-Items
-Character Sheets

EDIT:

-Added new class: Martial Artist

EDIT:

-Added Level 0 Skills for non-casters!
-Modified Part VIII

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What if Elvin was female?
posted October 27, 2018 01:27 PM

I would just like to remind everyone that you don't have to actually come up with a trait by yourself, if you feel confused with the mechanics and whatnot. Bio is the most important thing here, most the rest we can get from it ourselves, if you'd prefer it this way.
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Galatea
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posted October 27, 2018 02:01 PM

I'm doing my character sheets tonight. So we gonna start soon!
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posted October 28, 2018 11:07 AM
Edited by Elvin at 09:03, 30 Oct 2018.

Jin is a wandering martial artist. He was taught the Gei style from his father, a unique mix of might and magic that allows the manipulation of the 4 elements in tandem with his hand to hand combat. While he has the fundamentals down, he is still figuring things out and accumulating experience fight by fight. That hasn't stopped people from calling him the Geilord but whether they are being serious or jesting, Jin cannot tell.

Jin is 23 years old, tall, brown hair with a ponytail, unassuming clothes. He enjoys travelling, sparring and playing darts.

Name: Jin
Class: Martial Artist
Clan: None
Clan Bonus: Adventurerís Luck
Job: Will teach for food
Trait: Elemental manipulation*
Weapon: Unarmed, Darts
Stats:

Strength - 1
Eyesight - 2
Dexterity - 2
Intelligence - 2
Devotion - 1

[*Elemental manipulation allows Jin to shape nearby elements in minor ways when he succeeds an intelligence roll. He cannot produce elements by himself and can only work with what there is available like a breeze, a puddle of water or a campfire.]

Level 0 Skills

Martial Arts: You can use Dexterity instead of Strength for the attacks and damage rolls of your unarmed strikes and monk weapons.
Disabling strike: An attack that attempts to neutralize the opponent without harm. If successful, but the foe survives he is stunned for one turn; if he is defeated, he remains alive and paralyzed.

Monk Branch

Level 1-Hit like stone: An attack that attempts to destroy the foe's armor using ki. If it hits or misses or misses by no more than [attacker's Intelligence + defender's armor modifier], the attack shatters the armor enough to render it useless.
Level 2-
Level 3-
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Galatea
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posted October 29, 2018 03:22 AM
Edited by Galatea at 04:28, 29 Oct 2018.

Elvin! How come you have level 1-3 skills, you are level 0!

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Updated:
-Martial Artists Skills
-Priests Spells

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posted October 29, 2018 05:36 AM

I don't, it is something I have to look forward to.
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