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Rimgrabber
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Rimgrabber's HoMM 8 Part 1: Factions (reboot)
I've made some changes from my previous version of this thread. There are now 3 Heros per faction, a Might, Magic, and Misc Hero. The Misc Hero is just a class I thought fit well with the faction theme and they're usually meant to be support Heroes rather than mains. I've decided to go into the class system and the different heroes' abilities in a different thread that also explains the skill system. For now, I'm only focusing on creature lineups although I'll still give the names of the hero classes and a brief blurb about them. Additionally, instead of a 5/5/3 system, I've decided to go to a 1/4/3/3/2 system; 1 basic unit, 4 core units (pick 2), 3 elite units (pick 2), 3 exceptional units (pick 1) and 2 champion units (pick 1).
Oh and also I own none of these images or the music pieces, I just found them on the internet.
Haven
Town theme: Haven Theme
Gameplay: I tried to make Haven generally pretty adaptable and able to use any strategy without specializing, although I'm not sure I did too well at that or not lol.
Lore: Haven is, on paper, a faction that strives for truth and justice for the weak and downtrodden; however, there has been much corruption within the noble houses as of late, as well as a huge increase in the Inquisition's political power, causing many internal rifts in the Empire as well a rise in religious extremism. This, coupled with two recent bloody wars over disputed territory, one with the Sylvan Elves and one with the Lizardfolk of Fortress, has weakened Haven's standing in the world and left it's future uncertain at best.
Might Hero: Knight
Magic Hero: Priest
Misc Hero: Ambassador
Basic Unit
Plebeian:
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The Plebeian is the weakest, but most numerous unit in Haven's armies. It's extremely weak in combat, only really suited to be used as cannon fodder if it wasn't for the taxpayer ability, which increases your income by 1 per Plebeian. The Plebeian can either be upgraded into a Conscript or a Pilgrim.
Conscript(Upgrade):
During times of war, a draft is often put in place to recruit soldiers from the peasants and riff-raff of the Empire. They receive a bit of training, but the main benefit of hiring them is that they can now afford to pay 2 gold in taxes per day instead of one.
Pilgrim(Upgrade):
Pilgrims are those citizens whose faith is so strong that they are willing to sacrifice their lives in the name of their Empire and their Gods. While more adept at combat than simple Conscripts, their main role on the battlefield is as a healer. Pilgrims are exempt from taxes, and thus don't provide any gold to your treasury.
Core Units
Squire:
Squires are young men who aspire to Knighthood. The first step in this journey is to serve in the military for a year as a squire. Squires are not made for hand-to-hand combat, rather their strength lies in their ability to increase the moral and attack of elite units adjacent to them. Squires can be upgraded into Trumpeters or War Drummers.
Trumpeter(Upgrade):
Trumpeters are not skilled fighters, however, the ability to inspire strength and courage in one's allies should never be underestimated. in addition to the Squire's abilities, Trumpeter's can also raise the initiative and speed of a target living ally. The buff lasts for 3 turns.
War Drummer(Upgrade):
While War Drummers do have higher defense than Squires, their main role is still to support their allies from the side. A War Drummer can activate it's Stance Change Ability to play it's drum, leaving it immobile until the ability is deactivated, but increasing the attack and initiative of friendly creatures in a 3x3 radius(stacks with the regular boost given to Elite units)
Archer:
Archers are arguably the backbone of Haven's armies. While not especially powerful units, they are fairly numerous, and of course can strike their foes from afar. Archers can be upgraded into either
Marksmen or Scouts
Marksmen(Upgrade):
Only the best Archers are permitted into the ranks of Marksmen. Marksmen, aside from just being stronger stat-wise than Archers, also have the ability to pierce 30% of their target's armor.
Scout(Upgrade):
While Scouts may not be as good at outright ranged combat as Marksmen or even Archers thanks to their ranged penalty, they also have no melee penalty, much higher stats, and make much more effective use of cover than their comrades. In addition, they also reduce their Hero's rough terrain penalty.
Sentinel:
Sentinels are the primary foot soldiers of Haven. With reasonable attack and very good defense, they are a worthwhile addition to any Knight's army. Sentinels are willing to give their life for their comrades and can block 35% of melee, non-magical damage from an adjacent ally while taking 10% themselves. Sentinels can be upgraded into Pikemen or Honor Guard.
Pikemen(Upgrade):
Pikemen are a more offensive variant of Sentinels. While they cannot protect their allies directly, they have a much better attack stat than Sentinels and can retaliate preemptively after they defend. And enemies who fall victim to this must beware, as each tile crossed to reach the Pikemen reduces the attacker's defense by 5%.
Honor Guards(Upgrade):
Honor Guards have mastered the art of defense, being so dedicated to shielding their allies from harm that they have also learned to reduce damage caused by arrow or spell. They are often seen as the personal guards of royalty and nobility. Damage from ranged and magical attacks doesn't transfer onto the Guard.
War Dog:
War dogs are a Knight's best friend. While they will die quickly if left to take damage, they can deal it out almost as well, and are quite fast. War Dogs are bred, raised, and trained for war, and as a result, are able to retaliate twice per round. War Dogs can be upgraded into Savage War Dogs or Loyal War Dogs.
Savage War Dog(Upgrade):
The different noble houses of the Empire often have different ideas on how to raise and train the best war dogs. Some of the houses with less regard for compassion half starve their dogs and when they do feed them, it's the bodies of dead prisoners. As a result, these dogs have developed a taste for human flesh, although elves, dwarves, even dragons will do. Meat is meat. These dogs have a higher attack stat then others, and gain the double strike ability.
Loyal War Dog(Upgrade):
Some houses are not so cruel, however, and that reaps its own rewards. While not as capable of killing as Savage War Dogs, Loyal War Dogs last longer in battle and will come to the defense of adjacent allies that are being attacked with their opportunity retaliation ability.
Elite Units
Chaplain:
Not all members of the Church are as influential or well-schooled in magic as Priests, there are many lower-ranking Chaplains as well. Many of these men and women choose to serve in the military to gain name recognition and respect. Chaplains deal light damage from afar and can be upgraded into either Clerics or Zealots.
Cleric(Upgrade):
Clerics are those Chaplains who have succeeded in their goal of gaining glory in battle, and have gained more prominence in the Church. They are more durable in combat, can cast Regeneration, and have ranged retaliation.
Zealot(Upgrade):
Zealots are Chaplains who have given up their rise to prominence in the Church in favor of remaining in the military to spread the word of their gods and punish non-believers. They have the same durability as Clerics, can cast Haste and Divine Strength, and have no melee penalty.
Enforcer:
Ever since the Inquisition had gained political control in many of the noble houses, Enforcers have been the primary city guards and dealers of justice. Controlled by the Church and the Inquisition, these warriors have been trained in ways of battle that work especially well against demons, undead, and dark elves, giving them a 20% bonus is damage dealt to units from Inferno, Necropolis, and Asylum. They have also had to learn to maintain order, and so have been taught techniques that allow them to prevent their opponent from retaliating against them. Enforcers can be upgraded into Inquisitors or Justicars.
Inquisitor(Upgrade):
Inquisitors are, unsurprisingly, the highest-ranking leaders of the controversial Inquisition. They have all the skills of an Enforcer, in addition to having higher speed and initiative. Inquisitors' attacks deal light damage and have a chance to blind their target for the remainder of the combat round.
Justicar(Upgrade):
Unlike Inquisitors, who are most often found fighting against non-believers in the open field, Justicars are more often patrolling the streets of cities in the Empire, maintaining order. Their justice is swift, attacking twice at a time, but their faith in their duty and love of their nation gives them +10 defense when left in the garrison of a friendly town.
Falconer:
Falconry has always been a popular sport in the Empire, and it wasn't long before it was realized the tactical advantage falcons could provide. While the Falconers themselves are rather weak in combat compared to most other Elite units, however, they can call an equal number of falcons to battle. The falcons deal a fairly good amount of damage, and can only be targeted by ranged and magical attacks. Dead falcons don't return to the army immediately, instead regenerate by 10% every day. Falconers can be either upgraded into Falconer Hunters or Falcon Trainers.
Falconer Hunter(Upgrade):
Falcons from Falconer Hunters now follow a target creature, friend or foe, for 3 turns. If the target was friendly, the falcon attack all enemies that target it. If it was an enemy, it attacks it every time it tries to attack. After the 3 turns are up, then falcon acts as normal.
Falcon Trainer(Upgrade):
While the Empire does breed falcons specifically for battle nowadays, a certain degree of training is still better to make them willing to attack larger prey. Falcon Trainers' falcons start out the battle weaker, but each attack made by the Falconer on an enemy increases the falcons' damage to that target by 10%, and vice-versa. The Trainers themselves are much more adept at combat than Falconers.
Exceptional
Griffin
Griffins are among the most majestic creatures in existence and have become steadfast and powerful allies to the Knights of Haven. Griffins are incredibly fast and powerful and seldom tire in battle, allowing them to have an unlimited amount of retaliation attacks. Griffins can be upgraded into either Battle Griffins or Royal Griffins.
Royal Griffin:
Royal Griffins are Griffins who have descended from one of the 6 Legendary Griffins, the Griffins whose prowess in battle won many battles for the Knights during the early days of the Istresia and who some say may have even been capable of speech. Royal Griffins are stronger in battle than their un-upgraded brethren and have access to the Battle Dive ability.
Battle Griffin:
Battle Griffins are Griffins that have been trained from birth to fight in wars. Their extensive experience in battle has given them the ability to make their attacks stronger for every hit they suffer.
Cavalry:
Before foot soldiers move in to finish off enemy armies, leaders of Haven's armies often send in Cavaliers to deals heavy blows to them with their powerful lances, made all the more deadly by the momentum generated by the speed of a charging horse. Cavaliers get +5% damage for every tile crossed on the way to their target. They can be upgraded into either Champions or Cuirassiers.
Champions(Upgrade):
During times of peace, Cavaliers often participate in tournaments, the winners of which are given a suit of armor made out of an incredibly tough, but flexible material that was only found in the destroyed world of Ashan; Starsilver. Needless to say, these suits are considered to be more valuable than life itself by some, and wearing such a suit is an incredible honor. Champions have higher speed and have their jousting bonus increased to 10% per tile, as well as having increased defense.
Cuirassier(Upgrade):
If a Cavalier does a service great enough to be recognized by the reigning King or Queen personally, they earn the title of Cuirassier. Armed with more powerful lances than most, these mounted warriors deal more damage than their comrades, as well as being able to attack units directly behind their target like a dragon.
Crusader:
Besides Knights, Crusaders are the most respected warriors in the Empire. On a night before battle, many Crusaders have been known to stay awake all night praying. Crusaders believe that they're indestructible, and they aren't far off, for they are the strongest unit in Haven's army defensively. They also have unlimited retaliation. Crusaders can be upgraded into either Paladins or Templars.
Paladin(Upgrade):
Paladins are Crusaders who were chosen by an Angel personally to root out evil magic wherever they may find it. Paladin's defenses are even better than that of Crusaders. They additionally have the ability to cast Cleansing and have a protective Aura that prevents adjacent units from receiving curses from dark magic.
Templar(Upgrade):
Children of noble families are sometimes selected by the Angels at birth to become Templars; magical warriors that are imbued with light magic and blessed with never-ending stamina. Templars regenerate 1/3 of their health at the beginning of their turn, and each consecutive retaliation attack deals 20% more damage than the last.
Champion
Angel:
Nobody is certain of the origins of the Angels, although the Inquisition would have you believe they are direct decedents of the Gods, sent to Haven during it's darkest times to bring light. The Angels themselves have remained silent on the matter. Angels are the most powerful attacking unit in Haven's armies, and while their defenses are average as far as Champion units go, they have a 25% resistance to dark magic and get 50% bonus damage against Devils. Angels can be upgraded into either Archangels or Divine Furies.
Archangel(Upgrade):
Archangels are the oldest angles of all. They have seen many a battle, and witnessed many a miracle. Archangels have improved defense and initiative and can cast resurrection.
Divine Fury(Upgrade):
The Divine Furies' numbers are almost entirely made up of Angels that were originally from Ashan, many of whom were veterans of the Elder Wars. These Angels still harbor a bitter resentment toward that conflict, and as a result get an increased attack stat, can cast Divine Vengeance, and have a 50% damage increase against Faceless.
Deva:
When a Priest dies, he or she is able to return to the realm of the living to aid the Angels and whoever their allies happen to be at that point in history. These "resurrected" Priests are called Devas, and they are the purest embodiment of light magic. They must return to the afterlife eventually, however, and grow progressively weaker the longer they remain on the mortal plane, though it takes several years for this effect to be noticeable. They are the fastest unit in Haven's armies and are capable of casting several light magic spells including Regeneration, Cleansing, and Magical Immunity. They also get a 50% damage increase against Reapers.
Astral Deva(Upgrade):
Astral Devas are Devas who have remained in the afterlife undisturbed for a century or more. At this point, they have recharged to their full power, and thus have a higher attack stat than lesser Devas, and lower the mana cost of light magic spells cast by their hero by 2. They also reflect 15% of any damage they receive back at their attacker as light damage.
Celestial(Upgrade):
Priests who were especially proficient in magic become Celestials upon their deaths. Celestials have all the abilities of a Deva, but twice the mana, and an Aura that gives all adjacent friendly units a 30% chance to have all their curse effects dispelled.
Academy
Town Theme
Gameplay: Academy has powerful but expensive troops, is heavy on ranged attacks and casters.
Lore: The Wizards of Academy are an aloof people, preferring to remain isolated in their libraries and laboratories than participate in the politics and affairs of the larger world. Being the magic capital of the world, Academy doesn't discriminate against any schools of magic. Nothing is taboo, and everything is fair game. Races of all kinds make their homes here- Elves, Humans, Beastmen, Elementals, even the occasional Angel or Faceless can be found studying the magical arts here. A faction of powerful mages and brilliant scientists, the Wizards of Academy are second only to the Dwarves of Forge technologically.
Might Hero: Spellsword
Magic Hero: Wizard
Misc Hero: Alchemist
Basic Unit
Gremlin:
Before the destruction of Ashan, Gremlins were the sole inhabitants of the cities that would later become Academies. Gremlins have always been a weak and cowardly race, and so were happy to become servants to the Wizards in exchange for protection. Gremlins increase the initiative of friendly war machines and are shooters. Gremlins can be upgraded into either Gremlin Mechanics or Gremlin Saboteurs.
Gremlin Mechanic(Upgrade):
Gremlins are creatures who have an innate fascination with machines, and some have become so skilled with them that they can heal War Machines and resurrect Constructs in the middle of battle.
Gremlin Saboteur(Upgrade):
Some Gremlins are born with more innately destructive personalities, and so the Wizards have trained them to sabotage Constructs, with their attacks lowering their initiative. They can also disable War Machines for 2 turns every 5 turns.
Core Units
Scarab:
Scarabs are massive, brilliantly colored beetles that the Wizards of Academy have tamed to be used as pack mules and canon fodder in battle. Scarabs have a relativly high defense stat, and their brilliant colors reflecting light makes them take 25% less damage from ranged attacks. They can burrow once every 4 turns, allowing them to ambush enemy units that walk by. They upgrade into either Bejeweled Scarabs or Winged Scarabs.
Bejeweled Scarab(Upgrade):
Some Scarabs are born with the ability to actually grow crystals on their bodies. These creatures give you either +1 crystal or gem per day, and their ranged defense is increased to 50%.
Winged Scarab(Upgrade):
The Wizards of Academy are not above expirimenting on live creatures, and through these expiriments they've learned to attach wings to the more mundane varaity of Scarab. Their wings make them useful during seiges, and their attack stat is significantly higher than that of non-winged varaities.
Golem:
Golems are the main infantry of Academy's armies. They are simple statues made of stone animated by magic,and having no emotions or feelings of hunger makes them very useful soldiers. While very slow, Golems are very good at taking punishment, with their high defense and 25% magic resistance. Construct. Golems can be upgraded into either Steel Golems or Mithril Golems.
Steel Golem(Upgrade):
While most Golems are made of stone, when an important battle is upcoming Steel Golems are mass-produced. Steel Golems are even more durable than their stone counterparts. They have the ability to retaliate infinitely and have twice the magic resistance.
Mithril Golem(Upgrade):
Starsilver was an extremely useful material found on Ashan and was mostly destroyed along with the world itself. The Wizards of Academy have been attempting to recreate it. The closest they have come is mithril. While initially not as magically resistant as starsilver, mithril has the unique property of getting more resistant with every hit endured. Mithril Golems are noticeably faster than their counterparts, and while they start with a mere 25% magic resistance, the percentage increases by 10 for every magical attack they receive.
Familiar:
Familiars are spirits that Wizards can call on to assist them in battle. Somewhat resembling large lemurs, the Familiar's tail can be used as a weapon nearly as well as its teeth. Familiars can attack both their target and any enemies that may be directly behind the Familiar. They can be upgraded into either Volatile Familiars or Incorporeal Familiars.
Volatile Familiar(Upgrade):
Sometimes a Familiar will be summoned by an intentionally unstable spell. These Familiars have increased attack and decreased defense, and explode upon their deaths. The damage of the explosion is increased by an amount determined by how many active effects, positive or negative, were on the Familiar.
Incorporeal Familiar(Upgrade):
These Familiars are less attached to the mortal plane than most Familiars, and as such have the Spirit Form ability, reducing the physical damage done to them by 25%. They are faster than normal Familiars and can teleport.
Apprentice:
Almost every citizen of Academy can cast spells, including their soldiers. Apprentices are pretty standard troops, but that doesn't mean they aren't very useful in combat. In addition to their no-ranged penalty, they can also cast Slow and Haste, however, their combat stats are very low. Apprentices can be upgraded into either Magi or Summoners.
Magi(Upgrade):
Magi are Apprentices who have served their required time in the military but chosen to stay. Their increased training has increased their attack and mana, and can additionally cast Firebolt and Endurance.
Summoner(Upgrade):
While summoning magic is often frowned upon in many nations, it is a favorite school of the Wizards. The average Summoner found in the military has the same abilities as Apprentices, and additionally can cast Wasp Swarm. Since Summoners are not as adept at offensive magic, they have learned to defend themselves in melee better, increasing their attack stat.
Elite Units
Stone Gargoyle:
Gargoyles are fast, sturdy, flying constructs created by the Wizards. While they aren't especially strong in combat, their speed and durability make them very useful for harassing shooters. They are immune to earth magic. Construct. Stone Gargoyles can be upgraded into Obsidian Gargoyles or Disruptive Gargoyles.
Obsidian Gargoyle(Upgrade):
Obsidian is a much more magic-resistant material than regular stone, and it wasn't long before the Wizards figured out how to mold it into superior Gargoyles. These Gargoyles are immune to all forms of magic and have a slightly higher attack and defense.
Disruptive Gargoyle(Upgrade):
Dwarves, like all other races, can be found in the libraries and laboratories of Academy. Many of these Dwarves are Runemages, have been able to imbue Gargoyles with the power to increase enemy magical vulnerability.
Dervish:
Dervishes practice an exotic form of dance known as whirling. The magic emitted by the dance allows them to control blades psychically. They have a relatively low growth rate and are expensive, although their damage output is second to none among Academy's elite units. Dervishes can be upgraded into either Whirling Dervishes or Blademages.
Whirling Dervish(Upgrade):
Masters of the art of dancing, Whirling Dervishes have learned how to make their blades dance with them. Any enemy they pass on the way to their intended target takes damage equal to 40% of the Dervish's primary attack.
Blademage(Upgrade):
Blademages have learned how to use their many blades to parry, increasing their defense. In addition, they are able to cause them to lash out every 3 turns, dealing damage equal to 300% of the Bladmage's normal attack to all adjacent enemies.
Baku:
Baku are spirits from the dream world that Wizards summon to wreak mental havoc on their enemies. Baku can take hits with the best of them, especially physical hits thanks to their Spirit Form ability. Their attacks cause drowsiness in their victims, lowering their attack, speed, and initiative. Baku can be upgraded into either Dreamcatchers or Dreamrenders.
Dreamcatcher(Upgrade):
Dreamcatchers are Baku that have evolved with the specific intent to feed off of good dreams. Dreamcatcher's attacks get boosted by 10% every time they attack a drowsy opponent, and heal themselves 50% of the damage dealt.
Dreamrender(Upgrade):
Dreamrenders are perhaps even more feared by the general public, however. Their mere presence on the battlefield lowers the moral of all drowsy creatures, and their attacks have a chance to send their victims fleeing in fear.
Exceptional
Djinn:
Djinns are powerful spirits of magic that the Wizards have a mutually beneficial relationship with. Wizards provide enchantments that allow Djinns to remain on the mortal plane indefinitely, and Djinns lend their strength to Academy's armies. Djinns' attacks deal magic damage of a random element, but not an element the target is resistant to. Being innately magical beings, Djinns have the ability to fly, and their presence on the battlefield increases their Hero's spellpower. Hates Ifreeti. Djinns can be upgraded into either Djinn Channelers or Djinn Viziers.
Djinn Channeler(Upgrade):
Djinn Channelers are Djinns who have on multiple occasions proven their worth in battle, and have been trusted with Spirit Links to their Hero. Spirit Links allow Djinns to channel some of their magical energy to the Hero in the form of mana, allowing their commanding Hero to regenerate 1 mana per combat round per 5 Djinn Channelers. They can also use this ability to steal mana from enemy spellcasters and transfer it to their Hero. Djinn Channelers are slightly more durable the normal Djinns.
Djinn Vizier(Upgrade):
Djinn Viziers are leaders among the Djinn community, and so have better learned the art of hand-to-hand combat. Their attack and defense is increased reasonably, and they have the ability to cast 3 random spells per combat; light magic on friendly creatures, and dark magic on hostile ones.
Sphinx:
Sphinxes are powerful creatures that are native to the deserts of Academy, and have become feared allies of the Wizards. Because of their resemblance to large cats, it is theorized they are related to Rakshasas in some way. Sphinxes can fly, take a reasonable amount of damage, and a slash from their paws is nothing to scoff at. However, the real power of the Sphinx lies in their riddles; once every 5 rounds, the Sphinx can pose a riddle to a target enemy unit. The target is confused for one turn, after which its luck will be greatly decreased. Sphinxes can be upgraded into either Vengeful Sphinxes or Ancient Sphinxes.
Vengeful Sphinx(Upgrade):
Vengeful Sphinxes are very proud individuals that can't stand to be insulted. They have a higher attack stat than un-upgraded Sphinxes, and any creature under the affect of their riddle will take even further bonus damage from the Sphinx's attacks.
Ancient Sphinx(Upgrade):
Ancient Sphinxes are wiser than their fellows, and have had more time to come up with harder riddles. The duration of the effects last 4 turns instead of 3, and lower morale as well as luck, and their attacks increase inversly porportionate to their target's luck.
Rakshasa:
Rakshasas are a powerful race; half human-half tiger (although their behavior is more similar to lions). How the Wizards managed to tame them and gain their allegiance in unknown, however, it doesn't appear to be mind control, as there are many Rakshasas in Academy that have prestigious positions and lands. Rakshasas have fairly average speed, but very good attack and no enemy retaliation. Rakshasas can be upgraded into either Rakshasa Ranis or Rakshasa Rajas.
Rakshasa Rani(Upgrade):
Rakshasa Ranis are the most powerful female Rakshasas in the military. They are the hunters of Rakshasa society, and their Dash ability allows them to sacrifice a turn for permanently improved initiative.
Rakshasa Raja(Upgrade):
Rakshasa Rajas are the most powerful male Rakshasas in the military. In Rakshasa society, it is the male's duty to defend the pride and their territory, and so they have better endurance than their counterparts. They also have the ability to attack multiple foes at once.
Champion Units; Build 1
Colossus:
Colossi are massive, sentient constructs that mysteriously appear in secluded areas of the world where magic concentration is high. Nobody is certain who is behind their existence; some say the Gods sent them to prevent a repeat of what happened with Sandro, should the power they guard get into the wrong hands. Others say they were the pinnacle of engineering achieved by whoever the original inhabitants of the Forges were. One thing is for certain, with the amount of magical energy emitted by Academy, the Colossi were their natural allies. Colossi's attack cannot be retaliated against by small creatures, and all small creatures surrounding them feel Fear when they attack. Colossi can be upgraded into either Centurions or Titans.
Centurion(Upgrade):
Centurions are Colossi that have been modified by the Wizards for siege warfare. They can attack castle walls and are 75% magic resistant. Additionally, they are faster than unmodified Colossi and their attacks against constructs and walls get more powerful for every hostile spell that targets the Centurion.
Titan(Upgrade):
Titans are a rare form of Colossi that appears when an area needs defending from a specific foe: Black Dragons. Being creatures of destruction and chaos while also being immune to all magic, Titans were the solution, presumably created by those who created the Colossi. Titans can throw lightning bolts that are so powerful that they bypass all air immunities and resistances. No melee penalty. +50% damage against Black Dragons.
Occamy:
Occamy were created when the Wizards attempted to make their own breed of Dragon. While not exactly succeeding, the Occamy is far from useless in battle. While not as powerful as Green or Black Dragons, Occamy are still powerful attackers, and have the ability to shrink into a small creature to increase their speed and initiative in exchange for some of their attack. When they choose to return to full size, all adjacent enemies are damaged in the process. Occamy can be upgraded into either Nesting Occamy or Shining Occamy.
Nesting Occamy(Upgrade):
Occamy are very territorial creatures who are very protective of their eggs. Nesting Occamy can claim a 3x3 area of the battlefield as their nest; they return to this area at the end of every turn, and attack any hostile troops there for 150% normal damage.
Shining Occamy(Upgrade):
Shining Occamy were the next phase of the Dragon experiment; in an attempt to combine light and fire magic to give them a more powerful breath attack, they instead created something different, unique. They created Occamy with the power to mesmerize enemies. The Occamy's good luck attacks now disable the target entirely for the next 2 turns, and enemies may not attack it more than once in a row. Any enemy starting their turn adjacent to a Shining Occamy will receive light and fire damage, each equal to 20% of the Occamy's standard attack.
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Sylvan
Town Theme
Gameplay: Sylvan is a fast faction that is meant to deal as much damage as it can as quickly as it can to compensate for the fact that most of their troops are fairly frail.
Lore: During the End Wars in which Sandro took over and destroyed Ashan, the final acts of High King Findan and The Keeper of the Law Ylaya were to forge an alliance between their nations, seeing it as the only hope there was for survival. Thus, the Elves and the Dark Ones set aside their differences and were able to work together to survive. Shortly after arriving in Istresia, however, several border skirmishes with the remainder of the Empire broke out and eventually escalated into all-out war. The Elves lost. As if that wasn’t bad enough, a creature not encountered on Ashan was found living in the forests of the New World: Werewolves. The bite of a Werewolf infects their victim, causing one of two effects: the victim turns into a Werewolf themselves or is inflicted with a crazed madness that makes them lose all humanity and leave them with nothing but a desire to inflict chaos and death. Eventually, the Elves and their allied woodland creatures were able to successfully beat back, and later form an uneasy alliance with the Werewolves, but after enduring so much in so little time the Elves were on the brink of extinction. Fortunately, not all of the peoples found in the forests of Istresia were as vicious as the Werewolves, and so the creatures of the forest have united to form a new nation for mutual protection. This nation, however, having suffered as much as it has, has become paranoid and extremely hostile to outside contact.
Might Hero: Ranger
Rangers are the staple Hero of Sylvan's armies. Since the events that lead to the Sylvan faction being the way it is today, however, their focus has been shifted away from protecting the forests and more towards silently taking out any trespassers that dare to venture into Elven lands. At the beginning of combat, a Ranger can select a single enemy stack as a favored enemy. Any time a friendly stack is destroyed, the Ranger's army receives +1 attack.
Major Skills: Territorial, Offense, Luck
Minor Skills: Logistics, Leadership, Warcries
Magic Hero: Mystic
Elven society is matriarchal, and the nation is run by a queen selected from among a select group of elite female druids, known as Mystics. Mystics earn their title by proving their worth in not only magic but leadership and keeping harmony as well. They are powerful spellcasters and can use their powers to replace the first fallen stack of friendly creatures in battle with Earth Elementals. They are also the only Hero class that can directly alter the luck of units in combat (works on either friend or foe, twice per combat).
Major Skills: Territorial, Earth Magic, First Aid
Minor Skills: Water Magic, Air Magic, Enlightenment
Misc Hero: Tracker
Trackers patrol the border of the Sylvan Alliance's territory looking for intruders. Among the best Heroes for scouting, they gain extra movement points whenever they discover an enemy Hero or town on the adventure map, and they have an opportunity to flee on the first turn of battle, regardless of whether it's their turn or not.
Major Skills: Territorial, Logistics, Warcries
Minor Skills: Luck, Earth Magic, Artillery.
Basic Unit
Leprechaun:
Leprechauns are gnome-like creatures that live in forests and have a fondness for gold and other shiny objects. Often confused for Gremlins, these creatures actually used to be a much bigger race, both in terms of actual size and in terms of influence in the world. They have since devolved into what they are now, and although no-one knows for sure, some scholars suspect that the tremendous amount of magical instability created when the denizens of Ashan first arrived may have something to do with it. Leprechauns are inherently lucky creatures, and so their luck is always positive. In addition, leprechauns can teleport instead of walk when moving around the battlefield, and having 100 or more in your army grants their Hero the Resourcefulness perk. Leprechauns deal prime damage when they attack. Leprechauns can be upgraded into either Leprechaun Merchants or Clurichauns.
Leprechaun Merchant(Upgrade):
Because of their fondness for gold and other valuable materials, Leprechauns often act as the main traders from the Sylvan Alliance to other nations. At the end of each week, your kingdom earns gold equal to the amount of the Leprechauns in your employment, and anywhere from 1-6 gems.
Clurichaun(Upgrade):
In addition to gold, Leprechauns also have a fondness for wine. Prone to drunkenness, Clurichauns are those who have dedicated not only their free time but their time in the army to drinking. They have become masters of fighting under the influence of alcohol. Each individual Clurichaun in a stack has a 15% +3% per point of luck chance to dodge an attack completely (i.e. if an attack would kill 20 of them they each of those 20 have a 15+3(L)% chance to avoid dying if that makes sense). Additionally, if a Clurichaun is cursed with the Confusion spell, their attacks deal 40% more damage.
Core Units
Dryad:
Although not appearing so, some species of trees are actually sentient beings with minds and souls of their own. Inherently magical, these types of trees are able to project their spirit on to other forms of life, turning them into Dryads. Dryads are fast, hard-hitting fliers that deal earth damage and have no enemy retaliation. They can cast stone skin on their allies and are immune to harmful earth spells. Dryads can be upgraded into either Hamadryads or Meliae.
Hamadryad(Upgrade):
Hamadryads have been around long enough that their tree has truly become one with the forest. Natural allies of woodland guardians, Hamadryads can sacrifice their own HP to restore that of an allied Treant, Leszi, or Zomok. Hamadryads have increased defense and are immune to poison.
Meliae(Upgrade):
Meliae are a vengeful type of Dryad born specifically if their host tree is killed in a fire. Meliae have increased attack and are immune to fire. Their attack increases for 1 turn every time a fire spell is cast in combat(Stacks with Enrage if Hero is an Avenger).
Faun:
Fauns are a mischievous race resembling a half-humanoid half-goat mix, but are actually more closely related to goblins and imps than humans or elves. While there are many stories in human and dwarven legends about Fauns being kind creatures who guide lost travelers to safety, real Fauns are chaotic and unpredictable beings who would just as readily kill. Fauns are fairly sturdy, and their attacks deal extra damage to creatures with negative moral. Their misdirection ability enables them to disable their target’s retaliation for 2 turns. Fauns can be upgraded into either Faun Assassins or Pied Pipers.
Faun Assassin(Upgrade):
While the Sylvan Alliance does mostly resemble the old kingdom of Irollan, it should not be forgotten that the so-called “Dark Elves” of Ashan made their home here as well, and their influences can definitely be seen in combat, such as with Faun Assassins. Taking advantage of their mischievous nature, the Elves have taught many Fauns to turn invisible in battle every 3 turns. When they are invisible, they cannot be targeted except by AoE spells, and their attacks receive no retaliation while also dealing 3x normal damage.
Pied Piper(Upgrade):
Some legends tell of Fauns who used music as a means to kidnap children by leading them into the forest with music, never to be seen again. While there are no documented cases of this actually occurring, it's easy to see where the stories came from. Fauns have always had a great love of music, and some are able to use the power of song to aid their Hero in combat. All enemies within a 2x2 radius of them become drowsy, and they can cast sorrow on their foes and mirth on their friends.
Mayura:
Rarely seen by anyone outside the Sylvan Alliance, Mayura are a type of forest spirit that strongly resembles a peacock. Their brilliantly colored feathers can distract their enemies, preventing them from immediately retaliating, but forcing them to only target the Mayura for their next turn. These fast creatures can also fly. Mayura can be upgraded into either Dazzling Mayura or Sacred Mayura.
Dazzling Mayura(Upgrade):
The brilliant colors of the Mayura are so overwhelming for some that they can be temporarily blinded if the Mayura closes in to attack. Dazzling Mayura receives half damage from ranged attacks.
Sacred Mayura(Upgrade):
Mayura are one of the few creatures to be considered inherently good, and as such are held sacred not just to the Sylvans, but many individuals across other factions as well. Killing one is universally considered a sin, and as such, any creature who kills even one will have a chance to see their morale lowered for the remainder of the combat round.
Hunter:
Hunters are the backbone of the Sylvan Alliance’s armies. They are what an outsider would think of as a typical Elf: stealthy bowmen that take out their foes from afar without being noticed. They have fairly good stats for a core unit and shoot twice when they kill at least one creature, but apart from that have no special abilities. Hunters can be upgraded into either Trackers or Forest Guard.
Master Hunter(Upgrade):
Master Hunters are what the Elves would consider true hunters. In addition to firing twice, Master Hunters have the ability to cripple the enemy with their arrows, with each consecutive attack having a larger chance of lowering their target's speed. Having 50 or more Master Hunters can also allow you to see the paths taken by enemy Heroes on their last turn.
Forest Guard(Upgrade):
The Forest Guard is a secret order of Elven Archers who were created during the Sylvan Alliance’s war with the Haven Empire. The Forest Guard’s members follow the teachings of Gelu, a legendary figure in Elven folklore, and so are masters of the bow and guerrilla warfare, and receive no ranged or melee penalty, make better use of cover than others, and take 25% less ranged damage when fighting in forest terrain. Due to their increased precision, they can only shoot once per turn.
Elite Units
War Dancer
War Dancers are curious warriors, they follow a fix of the styles of the Blade Dancers of old and the Blood Furies of the former kingdom of Ygg-Chall. Their high speed allows them to return to where they started after attacking an enemy, who is left unable to retaliate. They can keep upgraded into either Wind Dancers or Blood Dancers.
Wind Dancer(Upgrade)
Only the quickest and most adept War Dancers could ever dream of becoming Wind Dancers. As their name implies these warriors strike harder and faster than the wind, and their defense is increased by 1 for every tile they cross during their turn. Last 1 round.
Blood Dancer(Upgrade)
Those that don't make the cut instead often opt to follow the darker side of their art. They exchange their swords for thinner rapiers, and while their initial attacks deal less damage, the wounded target has their speed reduced and they take continual blood loss damage over 3 rounds.
Druid
Druids are the closest equivalent to priests that the Elves have. Highly attuned to earth magic, a Druid's ranged attack deals earth damage, and they have the ability to cast the Regeneration spell, adding much-needed bulk to Sylvan's armies. They can be upgraded into either Elder Druids or High Druids.
Elder Druid(Upgrade)
Elder Druids are the oldest and wisest Druids. They can cast Entanglement, and siphon their mana to their hero.
High Druid(Upgrade)
High Druids have attained an unrivaled symbiosis with nature. Any Elemental or non-elf Sylvan unit receives healing if they begin their turn adjacent to a friendly High Druid.
Peryton
Perytons are a monstrous blend of stag and bird native to Istresia. They stalk the forests of New Irollon, looking for fresh hearts to eat. As if their appearance wasn't enough, their shadows eerily resemble that of Elves, making it hard to see them coming. Perytons are invisible when hiding behind an obstacle, and their attacks lower their target's speed by 1 for 3 turns. Perytons can be upgraded into either Savage Perytons or Bull Perytons.
Savage Peryton(Upgrade)
Savage Perytons have less than no mercy in their hearts, so much so that they will actually eat the hearts of their enemies while they're still alive. If that wasn't enough, they emit a growl that's too low frequency to hear but causes a deep sense of dread. This lowers the morale of all adjacent living enemies. By consuming the hearts of their enemies, they heal themselves.
Bull Peryton(Upgrade)
Bull Perytons are too heavy to fly, but their feathers are as hard as steel. No enemy can hope to retaliate against the might of a Bull Peryton, and physical attacks seem to bounce off them. They take 20% less damage from ALL physical sources but have a 20% weakness to magic.
Exceptional
Unicorn
One of the most majestic creatures in existence, since the beginning of time, Unicorns have been steadfast allies of the Elves. Stronger on defense than most Sylvan troops, Unicorns are still quite fast and are immune to all curses.
Radiant Unicorn(Upgrade)
Radiant Unicorns have been imbued with Light Magic that allows them to blind their enemies when they attack. All friendly units that end their turn next to the Radiant Unicorn have their health restored, and may even have some of their fallen comrades resurrected.
Alicorn(Upgrade)
Truly a marvel to behold, Alicorns are a few rare Unicorns that were born with wings. Their high speed and abilities of flight and curse immunity make them a favorite companion of those wishing to vanquish evil wizards that would cowardly hide behind their walls.
Fae
Don't let their appearance fool you. They may appear to be similar to the much weaker dryads, but make no mistake about it, they are entirely different entities. The spirits of vengeful elves and dryads who have died protecting their homeland in especially violent means, and have sworn to never rest until all of Sylvan's enemies are eradicated. Fae are the fastest unit in a very fast army, and are one of the only undead creatures not to owe their allegiance to Necropolis. Fae deal additional damage to creatures that have previously attacked them.
Revenant(Upgrade)
During the early days of Istresia, when Elves and Men fought over territory at the borders of their nations, many Elves were tortured to death at the hands of the Knights. These became known as Revenants, and they have a deep hatred for all humans and those who would dare ally themselves to them. They get a 25% damage boost against all Haven troops but deal 15% less damage to their fellow Elves, even their dark brethren in Asylum. (Only elven units. Other Sylvan and Asylum troops take normal damage.)
Fury(Upgrade)
Furies are those Elves who died in battle at the hands of magic users. Similar to Revenants, they specialize in killing enemies that can cast spells, and drain their mana to heal themselves.
Werewolf
Werewolves, once the bane of the Sylvan Alliance, were forced to join it after the war with the Unicorn Empire. Neither the werewolves nor the rest of the alliance trust each other, but nonetheless, they have become powerful allies. Once per battle, they can unleash a blood-curdling howl that raises the attack of all friendly creatures by 10% for 3 turns. Their powerful claws can cut through 20% of their targets' defense.
Fenrir(Upgrade)
Fenrirs are the Werewolves that are capable of spreading their disease. While all Werewolves carry it, Fenrirs were the ones fortunate (or unfortunate) enough for it to be contagious. When an enemy stack dies, 10% of their hitpoints are resurrected as Werewolves. Werewolves summoned this way die after combat.
Silverback(Upgrade)
Silverbacks are the oldest and physically strongest Werewolves. Their attacks can cut through 40% of their targets' defense, and while they can't spread Lycanthropy as Fenrirs can, their attacks have a 10% chance to cause an effect similar to the Frenzy spell during their target's next turn.
Champion
Treant
Ever vigilant guardians of the forests, Treants would naturally become a part of the Sylvan Alliance. Giant sentient trees, they are incredibly sturdy, yet also very slow. Their attacks can trap their victims in their roots, preventing them from moving until the Treant moves. They must be killed quickly because the Treant at the top of the stack heals 75% of its max HP at the beginning of its turn.
Mother Treant(Upgrade)
Mother Treants are the trees that the saplings of other Treants are born from. They are highly protective of their allies and increase the defense stat of any friendly adjacent Sylvans by 10. They can entrench themselves into the ground and increase their own defense significantly by defending
Ruthless Treant(Upgrade)
Ruthless Treants are hunters. They are able to keep their prey entangled in their roots and vines for 2 turns after they move away from them, and they can even entangle enemy troops at a distance. they have much higher attack power than normal Treants.
Zomok
Zomoks have the appearance of giant, hulking lizards made of dirt, moss, and stone, but they are actually cocoons of much more powerful Drakes. Even in this state, however, they are powerful creatures. While they are too heavy for flight, their massive wings can still blow back enemy troops unfortunate enough to be attacked by this behemoth.
Emerald Drake(Upgrade)
Emerald Drakes are one of the species of Drake that can emerge from a Zomok cocoon. They have lost their wings, however, they are extremely skilled burrowers and can dig their way underneath enemy lines. Being made of pure mineral, they can consume boulders on the battlefield to increase their strength.
Rage Drake(Upgrade)
Also called Ruby Drakes due to their bright red scales, Rage Drakes are fully capable of flight, unlike their Emerald cousins. Able to retaliate an unlimited amount of times per round, with each consecutive retaliation growing stronger, it's easy to see why these are among the most feared allies of the elves.
And there we go! After taking almost a year, Sylvan is finally done! Next up should be either Necropolis, or maaaaybe Asylum. But probably Necropolis.
Psych! It was Asylum. Its lore is heavily dependant on Sylvan's, plus everyone is gonna hate it so I decided it's best to get it out of the way. Please note that this is not a replacement for Dungeon but a separate faction altogether. It may end up being a tad OP.
Asylum
Lore:
When the Elves of Irollan and Dark Elves of Ygg-Chall first reunited, everyone optimistically, and naively, believed that this would be the end of the "Dark Ones" and the Elven people would, at last, be reunited under one nation. Alas, it was not meant to be so. When the werewolves first started terrorizing the Elves, many of them became infected, but never turned into werewolves themselves. However, those infected instead became insane and, in some cases, cannibalistic. Eventually, these Elves were purged from the Sylvan Alliance and sent into the wilderness to die. As luck would have it for these Elves, the Faceless had also survived the End Wars, and once again they offered to take this wayward people under their wings. After the death of Malassa and the other Dragon Gods of Ashan, the Faceless themselves became much more chaotic, dangerous, and unpredictable.
Town Theme
Might Hero: Trickster
Yes, that's a picture of Tira from Soul Calibur. Tricksters have learned to master their madness and wield it as a weapon deadlier than any axe or dagger could dream of being. A creature in a Trickster's army that scores a critical hit will lower the luck of its target and Tricksters can swap the initiative of 2 enemy creatures permanently once per combat.
Major Skills: Shroud, Offense, Luck
Minor Skills: Logistics, Artillery, Enlightenment
Magic Hero: Sorcerer
Sorcerers are powerful dark mages that have harnessed dark magic so thoroughly that even creatures of darkness down before them. Their words are as sweet and deadly as poisoned fruit. A Sorcerer's curses ignore natural creature resistances, and at the beginning of combat, they mark a friendly creature. That creature has its pain converted into mana.
Major Skills: Shroud, Sorcery, Diplomacy
Minor Skills: Occultism, Enlightenment, Dark Magic
Misc Hero: Acrobat
Acrobats can only be described by any sane person as psychopaths. They actively enjoy using their almost other-worldly physical prowess to cause pain in their enemies. Acrobats' humanoid units can spend a turn to scale castle walls, and the Acrobats themselves can select 1 friendly stack every 4 turns to be totally immune to any damage, due to their cat-like reflexes.
Major Skills: Shroud, Luck, Logistics
Minor Skills: Defense, Ballistics, Offense
Basic Unit
Gnome
Gnomes are an underground-dwelling race, similar in many ways to Leprechauns and Gremlins. What sets them apart is their ability to cast illusion cantrips. Enemies cannot retaliate their attacks, as the Gnomes are too quick, and their illusory skills let them remain shrouded twice as long as other Asylum units.
Gnome Duelist(Upgrade)
Gnome Duelists are extremely proficient with duel-wielding daggers. They have a chance to attack the same target twice and are much faster than less trained Gnomes.
Svirfneblin(Upgrade)
In Aklo, the Dark Elven corruption of the Elvish language Monlin, Svirfneblin roughly translates to "the unseeable ones." Svirfneblin are Gnomes who have taken their skill with illusion magic to the next level, allowing them to teleport across the battlefield, and their ability to conjure up terrifying images can lower their target's initiative.
Core Units
Assassin
Assassins represent the quintessential Dark Elf: sociopathic, yet charming, individuals that crave violence and chaos. Assassins have the ability to flank enemy troops for a 25% damage boost, and enemies cannot retaliate attacks from directly behind them.
Shade(Upgrade)
Shades enjoy nothing more than watching as their victims writhe in pain as poison courses throughout their veins and the light leaves their eyes. A Shade's attack deals poison damage equal to 150% of the initial attack over a period of 3 turns.
Stalker(Upgrade)
Stalkers are highly obsessive people that will not rest until their target lies dead at their feet. A Stalker can pick a target whom they will automatically follow invisibly, and will deal 50%% more damage to that target. If they are attacked, their assailant becomes their next target.
Will-o-Wisp
I'm not sure if I want to keep these here, I considered them for Conflux, Swamp Fortress, and Necropolis as well. Anyway...
Nobody knows the origins of the mysterious Will-o-Wisp. Some say that they're the spirits of dead children that were killed and eaten by the subterranean monsters, who vengefully lure others to the same fate. Others say they're spirits of darkness born from the wings of a Faceless. Whatever the case, do not be fooled by these malevolent spirits. Simply being in their presence increases enemy units' vulnerability to attacks from large creatures. They are 10% resistant to physical attacks.
Noxious Wisp(Upgrade)
Noxious Wisps emit poisonous fumes that make it hard to breathe. This lowers the defense of any creature unfortunate enough to be caught in their midst.
Blazing Wisp(Upgrade)
Often found illuminating torches in what little semblance of civilization the Dark Elves have, Blazing Wisps' attacks blind ranged units, leaving them unable to use their ranged attacks for 3 turns after being hit, even if the Wisp moves.
Lunar Moth
Anyone who has been outside during the night is no stranger to the sight of a moth flailing about after getting trapped inside of a lamp. Even these rather large and aggressive species that reside in the underground realm of the Dark Elves are attracted to light, and they can move 1 square towards and spell cast.
Blood Moth(Upgrade)
Some moths have evolved to use their needle-like proboscis to drain the blood from their enemies. The Dark Elves will often use them to execute prisoners.
Firebrand Moth(Upgrade)
Named for their bright orange wings, Firebrand Moths have powder on their skin that makes a target feel as though they are on aflame. This increases their vulnerability to both fire and water magic, and lowers their initiative.
Puppet
Controlled from the shadows by the Faceless, Puppets can only be described as unsettling. Made of a material unknown to the other races, Puppets are similar to Academy's Golems, except more offense-oriented. They are immune to light and dark magic, and have a 20% resistance to other spells. This becomes a total immunity to magic when there are also Faceless in the Hero's army.
Soulless(Upgrade)
Soulless were named not for their own lack of souls, as that trait is not unique among poppets, but instead their ability to drain the souls from others. Soulless prevent enemy spellcasters from using their magic when they're adjacent, and for every 20 Soulless the enemy hero loses 1 mana per turn.
Marionette(Upgrade)
More agile than normal Puppets, Marionettes' movements are haunting and unsettling, yet strangely beautiful. Enemies have a chance to be distracted, and any attack that they were in range of has a chance to redirect to them.
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posted March 01, 2019 05:52 PM |
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I was thinking about Perytons' possible abilities back in the day, in the context of Heroes III (VCMI, to be exact) and I also couldn't come up with anything other than lowering enemies' morale, but it's kinda unimpressive as a unique feature. I also think that there are many other monsters that are more disheartening than a bird with antlers.
Isn't there something else that they could do?
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Rimgrabber
Promising
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Voice in Gelu's Head
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posted March 01, 2019 09:24 PM |
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I thought about having them do bleeding damage but the War Dancers already have an upgrade that does that. Maybe I could change that one.
Edit: never mind, I came up with something. They'll lower enemy speed instead of morale, keeping with the fear theme but being more unique.
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AncientDruids
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posted March 02, 2019 02:42 AM |
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Ahh... sorry, I didn't want you changing anything within your concept. Morale-countering mechanic is fine (if it doesn't copy Bone Dragon, who does it better in H3). I just hoped that someone will fling an idea or two.
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PandaTar
Responsible
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Celestial Heavens Mascot
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posted March 10, 2019 02:53 AM |
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Rimgrabber said:
They'll lower enemy speed instead of morale, keeping with the fear theme but being more unique.
That made me think something like making the enemy hesitate when front-facing this unit. It can affect speed, or can have some other random effects, such as making the enemy army stop on their tracks if they are moving next to this unit, as if not willing to get closer, or when attacking, some units of that army will hesitate and not attack (which would decrease damage inflicted, not based on ATT and DEF attributes, though), same for defending an attack, in which some units would not defend themselves, etc.
This concept might be a bit too powerful for this tier, so you could use it on the Bone Dragon creature and move the morale effect onto this one. Well, just suggestions.
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GlaDOS – Portal 2
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posted March 13, 2019 10:08 AM |
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Some pretty unique and interesting abilities here. Good stuff, hope to see more.
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Rimgrabber
Promising
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Voice in Gelu's Head
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posted March 13, 2019 07:10 PM |
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PandaTar said:
Rimgrabber said:
They'll lower enemy speed instead of morale, keeping with the fear theme but being more unique.
That made me think something like making the enemy hesitate when front-facing this unit. It can affect speed, or can have some other random effects, such as making the enemy army stop on their tracks if they are moving next to this unit, as if not willing to get closer, or when attacking, some units of that army will hesitate and not attack (which would decrease damage inflicted, not based on ATT and DEF attributes, though), same for defending an attack, in which some units would not defend themselves, etc.
This concept might be a bit too powerful for this tier, so you could use it on the Bone Dragon creature and move the morale effect onto this one. Well, just suggestions.
I really like that idea and I'll probably use it. Thanks!
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Some pretty unique and interesting abilities here. Good stuff, hope to see more.
Thank you so much!
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posted April 12, 2020 02:28 AM |
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I know it's a necro, but just 1 question: what is the purpose of having a single bottom-tier unit? I like the idea of 4 tiers in something like a 4/3/3/2 formation, but the bottom-tier unit can be taken in 2 very different directions, and I'm curious where you think it fits.
Direction 1: it's like the marine, zergling, or zealot of Starcraft - a cheap unit that's good against a lot of things and that a lot of armies use throughout the game, combining it with more advanced support as the game progresses.
Direction 2: it's a bad unit that the player is expected to stop producing and replace with higher-tier units when they become available, like the swordsman in Wargroove, the 1-1-1 scouts in Alpha Centauri, the rifle infantry in Red Alert, and most unupgraded units of H3. The unit is useful if you're rushing or if you're defending against a rush, but beyond the early game its value is low.
I think what you're going for based on your unit descriptions is a hybrid, in which the unupgraded basic units are direction 2 but the upgrades are direction 1 (healer for Haven, teleporter for Asylum...). This is fine, as long as you're doing this intentionally.
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Rimgrabber
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Voice in Gelu's Head
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posted April 12, 2020 03:14 AM |
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More or less, yeah. They're supposed to be about the same as what the Tier1 creatures in H3 and H5 were: they have their uses, especially early on, but usually, they're not going to be your main power stack in the late game. I did it because a lot of the factions have traditionally had a creature that is iconic to the faction that has to be weaker than the other core units for balance reasons (Skeletons, Pixies, etc) or else just doesn't make any sense being in the same tier as the other core units. I mean, it would be silly for Peasants to be in the same tier as fully trained and armored soldiers like the Sentinels and Crossbowmen, but they still serve a purpose.
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Alon
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posted April 12, 2020 04:28 AM |
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In H3, halberdiers actually beat archangels on an equal cost basis. 30 archangels cost the same gold as 2,000 halberdiers; 2,000 halberdiers kill 10 archangels per hit, 30 archangels kill 345 halberdiers per hit, and the archangels' first mover advantage isn't nearly enough to give them the win.
It's a bit like how in Starcraft the basic units are the strongest in the game on an equal cost basis - in Starcraft you transition to higher-tier units because there's a 200 supply cap and basic units aren't as strong on an equal supply basis, and in H3 you transition because you can't build new towns and archangels murder halberdiers on an equal growth basis.
I don't know whether this difference in unit counters in H3 was intentional. I suspect it wasn't; I've literally never seen a table of unit counters for Heroes, unlike Wargroove or Age or Empires or Starcraft. But it's worthwhile to come up with different counters by different resource constraints.
One thing you do that I really like: multiple upgrades. With 13 different units per faction and 3 tiers of upgrade per unit, players have to preplan which units they want, because it takes time to build and upgrade the dwellings.
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