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Heroes Community > Heroes 4 - Lands of Axeoth > Thread: What am i missing?
Thread: What am i missing?
vulcancolak
vulcancolak


Known Hero
posted March 07, 2019 01:36 PM
Edited by vulcancolak at 13:38, 07 Mar 2019.

What am i missing?

Hello everyone. I am the guy who try to change values of Platemail.
It increases armor by 10 and i am using cheat engine for the find values

--- Correct me if i mistaken ---

--- First part ---

I am opening empty map with Platemails. Before i pick platemail my defense is 94.
I am doing this: New Scan > Value 94 > Scan Type: Exact Value and it provides me the 292 records.

Question: 1 of these records is refering defense of my hero? If yes, why if i change it's values to 99 and my defense still shows as 94


--- Second part -----

After i grab armor, my armor increases to 104 from 94 and i am doing this Cheat Engine > Increased Value and when i click next scan, it provides me 3 records but minimum value is 10290 and if i change 3 of them (50 for an example) nothing happens.



I have a lot of time and i want to find hex offset of Plate Mail and change it's value.

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Karmakeld
Karmakeld


Promising
Famous Hero
posted March 11, 2019 06:11 PM

Can you post screenshots?
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vulcancolak
vulcancolak


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posted March 11, 2019 06:44 PM
Edited by vulcancolak at 18:48, 11 Mar 2019.

Sure. Here is the 2 pictures. I can provide more if you need.

https://ibb.co/nRBVs3r

https://ibb.co/XJ6HJLS

Edit. Just realized, hex values of .exe file ending at 00691120.

By the way it is the executable file of the equilibris. How can i learn where at stored of this artifacts i don't get it.

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vulcancolak
vulcancolak


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posted April 06, 2019 06:18 PM
Edited by vulcancolak at 13:34, 08 Apr 2019.

I have found anything new. I was tried to change values of items and i have realized i can change mana bonus to Crown of the Supreme Magi via Cheat Engine. I have a code like this 02B91570 if i change value of this item, it affects item during the game

But i cannot find 02b91570 into the .exe file when i open it with hex editor.

How can i make it permanent?

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radmutant69
radmutant69


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posted April 08, 2019 01:36 PM
Edited by radmutant69 at 13:40, 08 Apr 2019.

That 7E is only the 'Enum' of the Plate Mail. Basically it is its number in the artifact table. Doesn't helps too much but good to know there is such data anyway.

It must be possible to change its attributes. We just don't know the offset where it can be done. Maybe kkfkkfk(?) knows it but he rarely comes here...

Edit: this program can edit a few artifacts so I think he or the program's creator should know where they are in the exe.

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vulcancolak
vulcancolak


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posted April 08, 2019 02:23 PM

I was excited when i found it by myself but my morale decreased to -10 when i realized there is no offset like this in the exe

Then how the people can find offsets? I am also developer of New Order mod for Heroes 5 but this time i want to make edit for myself and my friends and my "only" interest is changing attributes of items.

Equilibris mod has changed items attributes but how the people can find offsets? I was using Cheat Engine and i was succesfully found the offset but i was tought it was the same offset into the exe file. What is the correct method?

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Karmakeld
Karmakeld


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posted April 08, 2019 07:52 PM

radmutant69 said:
That 7E is only the 'Enum' of the Plate Mail. Basically it is its number in the artifact table. Doesn't helps too much but good to know there is such data anyway.

It must be possible to change its attributes. We just don't know the offset where it can be done. Maybe kkfkkfk(?) knows it but he rarely comes here...

Edit: this program can edit a few artifacts so I think he or the program's creator should know where they are in the exe.


Rad, what E7 are you looking at/refering to? Just guessing here, but it kinda sounds like you found the link that Nimo/Baronus discussed a while ago, regarding how the game knows which creature/line in the tables is linked to which code in the exe.

Vulcancolak, I think kkfkkfk uses some assembler program to track calls of a code.
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radmutant69
radmutant69


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posted April 09, 2019 10:16 AM

I just answered vulcancolak's question what he later deleted from his post. ^_-

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vulcancolak
vulcancolak


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posted April 09, 2019 01:21 PM

No i am here still. And still trying to understand how can i find offsets. Let us make something clear.

1-)The offset i found was just an address? (02B91570)

2-)If yes, it probably get the information from somewhere and modders trying to find it's source right?

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kkfkkkfk
kkfkkkfk


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Nothing is impossible
posted June 09, 2019 12:51 PM
Edited by kkfkkkfk at 12:59, 09 Jun 2019.

Sorry, I just saw your message.
Are you trying to change the defense of Artifacts?

First, you need to determine the virtual Address of the treasure.
Because there is too much code, the search process is complicated.

For example, 0065CB24 represents the defense of Plate mail.


6A means putting in byte data,The scope here is -127~127
The defense in the game is the number/10 here.
64(HEX)=100(DEC)
100/10=10
So the platemail's defense is 10.

If it's just a modification, then the maximum number is only 12.7
To get bigger numbers, you need to rewrite the treasure code.
It works directly on game files, so you don't have to worry about losing effectiveness.

Modified tools I recommend using Ollydbg or IDA pro.

CE is based on memory modification. This address will be different every time. If you can't find the base address, it will fail.


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vulcancolak
vulcancolak


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posted July 19, 2019 08:10 AM

kkfkkkfk said:
Sorry, I just saw your message.
Are you trying to change the defense of Artifacts?

First, you need to determine the virtual Address of the treasure.
Because there is too much code, the search process is complicated.

For example, 0065CB24 represents the defense of Plate mail.


6A means putting in byte data,The scope here is -127~127
The defense in the game is the number/10 here.
64(HEX)=100(DEC)
100/10=10
So the platemail's defense is 10.

If it's just a modification, then the maximum number is only 12.7
To get bigger numbers, you need to rewrite the treasure code.
It works directly on game files, so you don't have to worry about losing effectiveness.

Modified tools I recommend using Ollydbg or IDA pro.

CE is based on memory modification. This address will be different every time. If you can't find the base address, it will fail.




Ah hello. I wasn't there either. Tonight i will read and try to understand what you said. I really want to learn this because changing artifact attributes is my main goal for Heroes 4.

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vulcancolak
vulcancolak


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posted July 19, 2019 02:30 PM

kkfkkkfk said:


6A means putting in byte data,The scope here is -127~127
The defense in the game is the number/10 here.
64(HEX)=100(DEC)
100/10=10
So the platemail's defense is 10.





It seems it is advanced techniques and honestly i don't understand. But hex editor i can find values of the items during the game and i can change it during the game. But i want to make it permanent.

"0065CB24" I really don't know how did you find this number. In other words it is not what i am searching for right? https://pasteboard.co/IoHjuWt.png

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radmutant69
radmutant69


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posted July 19, 2019 03:00 PM

Well basically it is what you are searching for. He said that you can modify this

'64' here to change the defense of Plate Mail permanently. But for some reason you cannot set here any bigger value than 127 (7E) in this way.
If you want to make the defense bigger than 12.7 then that will be a bit more complicated. Like, you should replace this code around here with the Golden Plate Mail's code as it does exactly what you wanted to do. But it will require some more advanced exe editing.

Could you please repost the link with the artifact enum tab that you deleted from one of your post above? I'd like to look into it a little later and since now we roughly know where to find artifacts in the exe (thanks kkfkkfk!) that would be actually very helpful.

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vulcancolak
vulcancolak


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posted July 23, 2019 12:38 PM
Edited by vulcancolak at 14:19, 23 Jul 2019.

radmutant69 said:
Well basically it is what you are searching for. He said that you can modify this

'64' here to change the defense of Plate Mail permanently. But for some reason you cannot set here any bigger value than 127 (7E) in this way.
If you want to make the defense bigger than 12.7 then that will be a bit more complicated. Like, you should replace this code around here with the Golden Plate Mail's code as it does exactly what you wanted to do. But it will require some more advanced exe editing.

Could you please repost the link with the artifact enum tab that you deleted from one of your post above? I'd like to look into it a little later and since now we roughly know where to find artifacts in the exe (thanks kkfkkfk!) that would be actually very helpful.


You mentioned this one?
I wasn't remember the deleted post but maybe admins can help me about that maybe.

http://equilibris.celestialheavens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5145

It is works for us? And yes it seems i cannot increase defense above 12.

Edit: Yes i see i was changed something at the post. Let me contact admins maybe they are able to see what i have changed.

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