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Thread: Open Source Master of Magic HD Multiplayer Remake
Blake00
Blake00


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posted June 08, 2019 12:34 PM

Open Source Master of Magic HD Multiplayer Remake

If there's any good old Master of Magic fans lurking in these forums I've recently made a video (as part of a up and coming Civ related games in HD series) touring what I feel is the best MoM fan project out there called Master of Magic – Implode’s Multiplayer Edition, a brilliant Open Source Java MoM engine rebuild that supports larger maps, up to 14 players (either Human or AI), and any modern resolution like HD 4K etc. The only it's missing is AI and some good bug fixing and polishing.



Although sadly it's creator Implode has gone AWOL and the project has been inactive for a while now..

But hopefully one day he'll return to it, or someone else will finish what he started due to it being opensource...



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Blake00
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posted August 09, 2019 05:45 PM

OH MY GOD!!!
 
Looks like I don't have to worry about this unfinished fan remake anymore as it appears we've got an official Master of Magic sequel or Remake on way (courtesy of Slitherine who've bought the rights from Atari's IP dungeon and just made the announcement on their site)!!!

Guess this explains the mysterious Atari activities I noticed recently. Clearly they reacquired MoM so they could sell it to Slitherine for $$$.

I'm such a super fan of this 25 year old game that I run a MoM fans facebook group so as you can image I'm SUPER EXCITED about this news lol.

I can't can't believe that after all these years a real sequel just might be happening now. Sadly most of the old MoM forums are long dead so if there's any fans here who know of a good old MoM2 wishlist/feature request list out there please let me know and I'll go post it over on the Slitherine forums (which I've just signed up to).
 
They've probably barely started the project yet so now is the time to get fan feature requests and wish list items in front of their faces. If the remaining fan base doesn't speak up now then god knows what sort of game we'll end up with. So now is the time to act!

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Blake00
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posted May 31, 2020 10:47 AM

WOAH!!! The good news keeps coming for MoM fans. After years Implode has returned from his self imposed exile (think kungfu movie where the bad guy bests the good guy so the good guy climbs up a mountain and learns better kungfu with some old guy with a grey beard who never speaks and then the good guy comes back and kicks the bad guys ass lol) and released a new version of his HD Multiplayer remake of Master of Magic with for the first time FUNCTIONING AI!! This is the moment many like me have been waiting/hoping for.. hopefully people try it and give him some feedback!

Announcement: https://mom.pjj.cc/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=9815

Download: https://sourceforge.net/projects/momime/files/

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posted June 01, 2020 05:54 AM

Thanks Blake this is interesting...would u know how to download "Java Runtime Environment (JRE) 11 or higher" ?  have Win10, thanx in advance
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Blake00
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posted March 05, 2021 06:43 AM
Edited by Blake00 at 06:44, 05 Mar 2021.

SKPRIMUS said:
Thanks Blake this is interesting...would u know how to download "Java Runtime Environment (JRE) 11 or higher" ?  have Win10, thanx in advance


Ahh yes.. that was a nightmare to get working as you had to get a development build of java. However Implode has modified his latest releases to include the required JRE files so in theory you 'shouldn't' need anything special now hopefully haha! Oh and sorry for late reply, I somehow missed this despite visiting plenty of times!

Meanwhile we've got more big news! Looks like Seravy's Caster of Magic 2 (possibly renamed to 'Caster of Magic for Windows' now probably by Slitherine lol) is coming out of private beta and going public on steam soon.

What is also very interesting is that it says on the announcement that it supports custom resizable windows and presumably resolutions! I'll try to confirm that since that would be awesome news as Seravy had zero interest in higher viewing resolutions when I last talked to him about it (eg he was gonna keep it at 320x200 still lol). Maybe Slitherine or all his beta testers kept pestering him about it and he found a way to do it lol. Either way it's great news. Modern resolutions plus full 13 Wizard slaughterthon games are gonna be epic! Have wishlisted! Before anyone asks no it is not multiplayer lol (try Master of Magic - Implodes Multiplayer edition remake for that).

https://steamcommunity.com/games/1146370/announcements/detail/3055100754907446252

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Gandalf196
Gandalf196


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posted March 05, 2021 04:57 PM
Edited by Gandalf196 at 17:01, 05 Mar 2021.

Blake00 said:
SKPRIMUS said:
Thanks Blake this is interesting...would u know how to download "Java Runtime Environment (JRE) 11 or higher" ?  have Win10, thanx in advance


Ahh yes.. that was a nightmare to get working as you had to get a development build of java. However Implode has modified his latest releases to include the required JRE files so in theory you 'shouldn't' need anything special now hopefully haha! Oh and sorry for late reply, I somehow missed this despite visiting plenty of times!

Meanwhile we've got more big news! Looks like Seravy's Caster of Magic 2 (possibly renamed to 'Caster of Magic for Windows' now probably by Slitherine lol) is coming out of private beta and going public on steam soon.

What is also very interesting is that it says on the announcement that it supports custom resizable windows and presumably resolutions! I'll try to confirm that since that would be awesome news as Seravy had zero interest in higher viewing resolutions when I last talked to him about it (eg he was gonna keep it at 320x200 still lol). Maybe Slitherine or all his beta testers kept pestering him about it and he found a way to do it lol. Either way it's great news. Modern resolutions plus full 13 Wizard slaughterthon games are gonna be epic! Have wishlisted! Before anyone asks no it is not multiplayer lol (try Master of Magic - Implodes Multiplayer edition remake for that).

https://steamcommunity.com/games/1146370/announcements/detail/3055100754907446252
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"Caster of Magic for WIndows is an upgraded edition of a classic which allows you to run it natively on Windows for the first time, as well as supporting higher screen resolutions."

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1146370/discussions/0/3105766250722040893/

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Gandalf196
Gandalf196


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posted March 17, 2021 02:44 PM
Edited by Gandalf196 at 17:30, 17 Mar 2021.

Hey, I was wrong

It is the same as in Alpha - you can resize the window by clicking on the edge of the window (unless the 'lock window size' setting is turned on)

Edit: that does not mean I'm not buying though. I've tried the Alpha and found it to be a much better product than MoM on DOSBox.
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Blake00
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posted April 30, 2021 10:13 AM

Gandalf196 said:
Hey, I was wrong

It is the same as in Alpha - you can resize the window by clicking on the edge of the window (unless the 'lock window size' setting is turned on)

Edit: that does not mean I'm not buying though. I've tried the Alpha and found it to be a much better product than MoM on DOSBox.


Yup Seravy's new Caster of Magic 2 (or Caster of Magic for Windows as Slitherine are calling it) has now been officially released on Steam, GoG & Slitherine's own store a few days ago! As Gandalf196 pointed out sadly my hopes for modern resolutions were dashed (it just stretches 320x200 in a window) so Implodes fan game above is still the only one that does true HD stuff, however CoM has so many other benefits eg a gazillion bug fixes & balance changes, super smart AI opponents, more spells, more buildings, more advanced game modes & options, and best of all NO MORE 5 PLAYER LIMIT!! So umm 14 Wizards going at it in one game? Yes please!

Feel free to drop by the Master of Magic fans Facebook and Discord groups to discuss. Seravy himself is kindly answering questions and bug reports on the discord too!

I know some people aren't huge fans of CoM's changes but maybe Slitherine will take Seravy's new engine source and do a 'MoM for Windows' one day too. Probably wishful thinking but you never know!

Familiar but not quite the same


14 Wizard carnage incoming


Cool new options


Looks the same but apparently the new combat AI is naaaasty

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Blake00
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posted June 07, 2021 12:39 PM
Edited by Blake00 at 12:39, 07 Jun 2021.

A little late to the party with this news but OMG lol.. After 25 years of nothing it really is an amazing time for us diehard Master of Magic fans! There I was a few weeks ago getting excited about Seravy’s new Caster of Magic 2 for Windows release and then something even more amazing got officially announced, as we finally have confirmation of the Slitherine mystery MoM project I’ve posted about here before! Slitherine are working with Thea series creators MuHa games on a Official Master of Magic Remake!!! MuHa are a small indie studio so sure enough it's nothing AAA however the new remake already looks and sounds pretty good! I can already see people complaining about the hexes and lack of multiplayer but neither of those bother me. You can find the announcement videos (they've remade the old intro!), some nice pictures, and game info on their new Steam and GoG pages!

But I'll stick a few here too!

Trailer/Intro:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W44WH6pEXHY

Dev Interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCQHNKX6AtY



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Blake00
Blake00


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posted March 30, 2022 08:12 AM
Edited by Blake00 at 08:13, 30 Mar 2022.

Haven't updated this thread in a while with all the latest official Master of Magic remake dev diaries and I thought I'd better post about their latest 9th dev diary as that has a application link for people to apply to be involved in beta testing! So if there's any lurking MoM fans here who want in on that, go apply now!

Ninth Dev diary:
http://muhagames.com/master-of-magic-dev-diary-9/



For those who haven't seen all the previous dev diaries here they are...

Eight dev diary
http://muhagames.com/master-of-magic-dev-diary-8-february-2022/



Seventh dev diary
http://muhagames.com/master-of-magic-dev-diary-7-january-2022/



Sixth dev diary
http://muhagames.com/mom-dev-diary-6-december-2021/



Fifth dev diary
http://muhagames.com/dev-diary-5-november-2021/



Fourth dev diary
http://muhagames.com/mom-dev-diary-4-october-2021/



Third dev diary
https://muhagames.com/mom-dev-diary-3-september-2021/



Second dev diary
http://muhagames.com/mom-dev-diary-2-august-2021/



First dev diary
http://muhagames.com/dev-diary-1-june-2021/


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Gandalf196
Gandalf196


Disgraceful
Supreme Hero
posted March 30, 2022 03:38 PM

I have high hopes for this one but, some design choices make me want to puke



Is this rambling vicar supposed to be a mage?
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Blake00
Blake00


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posted April 21, 2022 09:17 AM

Gandalf196 said:
I have high hopes for this one but, some design choices make me want to puke



Is this rambling vicar supposed to be a mage?


Hahaha yeah not their best work hey.

Got a couple more Master of Magic news tips from the fan community...

Suppanut has released a new version 1.4.2 of his excellent Warlords mod for CoM2Win. Warlords changes many things in Caster of Magic 2 for Windows, some to feel more like classic MoM again and some others are new things entirely. There's rebalanced wizard, races, units and spells along with 50 brand new units/creatures! You can get the latest release from here:
https://www.realmsbeyond.net/forums/showthread.php?tid=10548

Many of us weren't sure if this day would come but Implode has released the big version 1.0 of his Master of Magic IME HD Multiplayer fan rebuild which means pretty much all features of the great Microprose 1994 classic TBS Master of Magic game are replicated (including AI opponents)! He's a done a few releases since and is just bug fixing and fine tuning/improving things now! Was a great day for MoM fans!!! You can get the latest release from here:
https://sourceforge.net/p/momime/

Implode lurks on the MoM Discord if people have feedback for him!
https://discord.gg/wFNQf36

Here's an old tour video (I need to make a nice new one ASAP lol!)
https://youtu.be/7ook3GqkmL8?list=PLZqnaGtTZxFbq3F5R6lqzyVvYzg9tRBPY

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Gandalf196
Gandalf196


Disgraceful
Supreme Hero
posted April 21, 2022 06:08 PM

Blake00 said:


Suppanut has released a new version 1.4.2 of his excellent Warlords mod for CoM2Win. Warlords changes many things in Caster of Magic 2 for Windows, some to feel more like classic MoM again and some others are new things entirely. There's rebalanced wizard, races, units and spells along with 50 brand new units/creatures! You can get the latest release from here:
https://www.realmsbeyond.net/forums/showthread.php?tid=10548

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Interesting. CoM for Windows spoiled the classic MoM for me, but I miss the less "RTS-feeling" and smaller, slower pace of the classic game.
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Blake00
Blake00


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posted April 28, 2022 11:26 AM
Edited by Blake00 at 15:10, 28 Apr 2022.

EDIT: WRONG LINK FIXED
Tenth MuHa dev diary for the official Master of Magic remake is here. This one contains a nice dev team Q&A based on questions the community sent in.
We also get to see the updated city screen which those with a keen eye will notice little citizens going about their business (with animation according to the interview). The games extreme modability allowing fans to redesign MoM in their own way is mentioned a few times too.

Gandalf you'll find this bit interesting in regards to the rambling vicar lol.
A’vee: For me it was unit and hero design – recreating full unit portraits in high resolution based on the few pixels in the classic MoM. Back then it was mostly the player’s imagination that designed these units. Doing them afresh (yet still in a way that would resemble their specific features!) was quite fun but due to the great number of units and time,as well as budgetary frameworks, there wasn’t a lot of wiggle room for creating different versions to choose from – we had to get it right the first time.

http://muhagames.com/dev-diary-10-april-2022/


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Gandalf196
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posted May 18, 2022 10:07 PM

It's shaping up pretty nicely

Gameplay - Master of Magic
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