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tSar-Ivor
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posted August 03, 2020 06:56 AM |
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Wait, he ain't being serious right?
The stats prolly mean these kids have no fathers or grampies, now imagine if your father figure is in his early 20s drug dealer who will take care of ya. I mean **** you dont even need to be coerced into the life just be born into it.
I mean it's not exactly news, **** even Elvis wrote a song about it half a bloody century ago.
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bloodsucker
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posted August 03, 2020 07:02 AM |
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So, average ages are 44 for whites and 31 for sum of all minorities. Thirteen years difference not 31. Blizz trolled us again.
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mvassilev
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posted August 03, 2020 07:08 AM |
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It's not just age. If you break it down by age group, blacks have a significantly higher murder rate at peak crime ages. Of course, there are a lot of other factors, such as poverty, urban vs rural, etc.
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fred79
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posted August 03, 2020 08:33 AM |
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bloodsucker said:
So, average ages are 44 for whites and 31 for sum of all minorities. Thirteen years difference not 31. Blizz trolled us again.
Trolling is just another form of lying. Shame on him.
*strips blizz naked and marches him through Chiraq, ala GoT*
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bloodsucker
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posted August 03, 2020 09:22 AM |
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fred79 said:
Trolling is just another form of lying. Shame on him.
I agree with this part.
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artu
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posted August 03, 2020 12:08 PM |
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fred79 said:
Sure thing, sugarplum. Has nothing at all to do with gangbanger/drugdealer mentality, which is prevalent in american black culture. Just call it for what it is. Most of black culture is completely snowed. Nobody's fault but their own, and anyone with a brain knows it; even blacks who don't lie to themselves and others.
Thanks for enlightening us with plain facts again but that is not the point, is it? Nobody says gangs or drugdealers dont exist, the question is WHY they are more prevalent in American black culture.
And you can try to explain this with two approaches:
1- You can say that’s just how blacks are, it is their nature. This would be a racial explanation.
2- You can tie it to the social conditions regarding their social class, status, racial prejudice, historical disadvantage or whatever.
Social class is of course a factor but it cant be the only factor, since whites from same class dont have same ratio of ending up in gangs. And since we dont have an African “gang gene” it must be something sociological.
For instance, just the other day I watched a guy whose analysis was that before WW2, the gap wasnt so big, if you excluded a slim minority of actually rich people, both whites and blacks were similarly poor. But then, in the 1950’s you had these social programs, giving huge credits to people, making most of the middle class home owners with stable jobs and so on... The problem was, such credit programs werent so welcoming to the minorities since these were still times of open and blatant racism. So, now, you had a huge gap of wealth and stability between two communities and blacks naturally wanted part of that wealth and since “the American dream” wasnt welcoming them with open arms, they were going to knock knock the gangstar way. Because it is one thing to be poor when everyone is poor, it is another thing to be poor with all this tantalizing luxury around you.
Now, I dont know how accurate or conclusive this explanation is, but it makes sense, it is a rational way to explain things and that’s how social sciences work, it means nothing to just say gangs are more prevalent in black culture, cultures become what they are for a reason. Nobody sits down and says “hey, let’s have a gang culture with massive murder and violence ratio, wouldnt it be fun!”
Of course, on the other hand, you now have people who witness a plain fact, they are robbed and assaulted by gangs who happen to consist of blacks and latinos etc. Most dont think about why this is the way it is, they just see it and there is also this form of political correctness, which labels them racist if they mention it. So now, they start to feel politically bullied and as a consequence become even more reactionary, shift to further far-right end of the spectrum. So there you have your polarization.
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Blizzardboy
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posted August 03, 2020 02:00 PM |
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mvassilev said:
It's not just age. If you break it down by age group, blacks have a significantly higher murder rate at peak crime ages. Of course, there are a lot of other factors, such as poverty, urban vs rural, etc.
And Trump's statements do little other than ignite his base. Democrats (or educated Republicans) are going to be aware that violent crime isn't rising. It is generally collapsing across the board sans some exceptions here and there.
Now, if the spike in crime that happened in July is still happening in the late summer/early fall right before the election, then that could indeed help Trump a little, but that is unlikely to happen.
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fred79
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posted August 03, 2020 10:56 PM |
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Sorry artu, didn't read a word of that.
Also, blah blah orange man bad.
Funny how Trump is literally Hitler, the Antichrist, and Satan rolled into one; no matter the topic. I've never seen one person blamed for so many others' faults before; and by literally only one type of person that there are FAR too many of.
It's going to be... something special... when he's re-elected. 
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artu
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posted August 03, 2020 11:08 PM |
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That’s okay fred, I write because it’s an instinct anyway. 
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fred79
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posted August 04, 2020 12:17 AM |
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Eben doe i gots da dum amerrykun brayne, i kin reed dat becuz it won sintanze! Danks, arty! 
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artu
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posted August 04, 2020 04:53 AM |
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Edited by artu at 04:55, 04 Aug 2020.
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You americans love to simplify music, like any of us
Dum
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fred79
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posted August 04, 2020 07:05 AM |
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Maybe you can join verriker and come on over so you can educate me. Sounds like fun, right?
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artu
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posted August 04, 2020 08:22 PM |
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How can anyone educate you fred, you already know everything.
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fred79
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posted August 04, 2020 10:02 PM |
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I learn more every day. You, on the other hand...
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artu
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posted August 05, 2020 07:37 AM |
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Oh, the cunningly devastating “holds up a mirror” technique again... You sneaky devil!
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fred79
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posted August 05, 2020 09:19 AM |
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Devastatingly handsome, you mean. *bats eyelashes manlyly*
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posted August 05, 2020 04:04 PM |
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Fred and artu should have a thread to themselves.
Btw, where is Sal? I miss him.
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posted August 05, 2020 04:44 PM |
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He will return. Look for him at dawn in the east upon a white steed.
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fred79
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posted August 06, 2020 03:09 AM |
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In middle earth he is known as gandamandre.
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