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Heroes Community > Volcanic Wastelands > Thread: Science vs. Scientism
Thread: Science vs. Scientism
Gandalf196
Gandalf196


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posted February 13, 2021 07:06 PM

Science vs. Scientism


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Blizzardboy
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posted February 13, 2021 07:46 PM


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JollyJoker
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posted February 13, 2021 08:20 PM

Well, actually it's a pretty accurate description of a current problem - science becomes scientism. HAS become so already. You don't believe that? Google physics and crisis. Theories have a lot of inertia in the face of "divergent" data. We are "defending" theories and models instead of trying to formulate new ones that fit with the data.
Has been different hundred years ago.

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Baronus
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posted February 13, 2021 08:52 PM

Short.
Science is a mind using in regular work of cereb.
Scientism is a mad religion. You dno believe God but you belive all told by scientist. One-track mind
Its madness because religion is to believe science to mind!
Do not reverse!
Science is insecurity a lot of mistakes!
Gods revelation is 100% truth! No mistakes! So you believe.

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JollyJoker
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posted February 13, 2021 10:01 PM

Religion is bull!

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Djolaf
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mechanized madness
posted February 13, 2021 10:50 PM

I'm starting to think a thing like "re-education camps" are not as horrible as they sound...
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artu
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posted February 14, 2021 12:43 AM
Edited by artu at 00:48, 14 Feb 2021.

There is such a thing called scientism of course and that is when you address science in matters you shouldnít. But thatís stuff not regarding factual knowledge but subjective values. However, when somebody starts to complain about scientism, itís usually not about an intellectual breach of science in the fields of personal preference, philosophy, or artistic expression, it is usually about some half-educated dumbass trying to promote religion in matters that are exactly in domination of scientific method, such as how did life occur or how did the universe start. These are questions about the observable factuality around us and the only reliable answers are indeed produced by science. Religion is cultural indoctrination, itís understandable that masses attach their identity to their ancestors but trying to deduct universal knowledge from such attachment always ends up in talking non-sense. So, if itís not some exceptionally high-brow envorinment but your usual internet forum, when somebody starts talking about scientism it is mostly followed by evolution denial or some similar kind of crap and you better start running without looking back.
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NoobX
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Now, this is a paradox...
posted February 14, 2021 07:10 AM

Good thing this isn't OSM.  
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Baronus
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posted February 14, 2021 09:08 AM

artu said:
Religion is cultural indoctrination, itís understandable that masses attach their identity to their ancestors but trying to deduct universal knowledge from such attachment always ends up in talking non-sense.


Yes Its scientism religion and other pagan cultes.  But christianity only true religion is not ,cultural' phenomen. We have a lot of various cultures with christianity. Eg. african christianity and Poland looks like two different religions but its the same Church. Because its not cultural but spiritual experience. So we have inculturation. A lot of cultures and one Church.
In christianity ,cultural, traditional, folkloristic" way of church is wrong. Its patology! Always must be deep spirituality and its true Church.

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JollyJoker
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posted February 14, 2021 01:16 PM

Christianity has a lot more than one church.

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Baronus
Baronus


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posted February 14, 2021 07:10 PM

Various heresies. Heresies means mistakes. I told about only one Church. Theres no mistakes.

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JollyJoker
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posted February 14, 2021 07:34 PM

You seem to have a god-complex. You should look for professional help.

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Baronus
Baronus


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posted February 15, 2021 06:39 PM

Im affraiad you project your own inside for me!
God for me its only happyness!

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Ghost
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posted February 15, 2021 07:32 PM

No. One who doesn't know why the Church built in Russia. When archaeologists found ruined church, they said 50-100 A.D has built, they said it means also building year took 100 years. No nobody knows about builders or where about they came to Russia. Disagreement with the Bible.

Another what? In South America in a pyramid has found Daniel's prophecy. How? Pictures told four beasts, etc. No one knows how Christian people were reached in South America. But Mormons said etc

..like one true Church.

But I think that from Russia to America by Alaska or they came to Russia. A child level of thought. Ok science always be better knowing.

I trust in science. I wait for they solved a puzzle.

Other what? Xmas religion has found in Turkey. It Xmas and Santa picture from 100 A.D or BCE. I don't remember which. But where from people came to Turkey, it also means much older. Ok 1600's in Europe doesn't allowed Xmas festival, because the Bible said etc Ok now's older than Jesus' birthday?

If no listening. Your brain is blinded by religion.

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NoobX
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Now, this is a paradox...
posted February 15, 2021 07:57 PM

Hey, no one mentioning the "F word" on the picture being uncensored on this Christian site?
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Gandalf196
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posted February 15, 2021 07:59 PM

Ghost said:
No. One who doesn't know why the Church built in Russia. When archaeologists found ruined church, they said 50-100 A.D has built, they said it means also building year took 100 years. No nobody knows about builders or where about they came to Russia. Disagreement with the Bible.

Another what? In South America in a pyramid has found Daniel's prophecy. How? Pictures told four beasts, etc. No one knows how Christian people were reached in South America. But Mormons said etc

..like one true Church.

But I think that from Russia to America by Alaska or they came to Russia. A child level of thought. Ok science always be better knowing.

I trust in science. I wait for they solved a puzzle.

Other what? Xmas religion has found in Turkey. It Xmas and Santa picture from 100 A.D or BCE. I don't remember which. But where from people came to Turkey, it also means much older. Ok 1600's in Europe doesn't allowed Xmas festival, because the Bible said etc Ok now's older than Jesus' birthday?

If no listening. Your brain is blinded by religion.


Your phrases are elusive to me.
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CountBezuhoff
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Time for war
posted February 16, 2021 06:18 AM

NoobX said:
Hey, no one mentioning the "F word" on the picture being uncensored on this Christian site?


My, my, whatever are the mods doing?

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Baronus
Baronus


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posted February 16, 2021 10:48 PM

100 AC theres no Turkey and Russia ;0)))
Asia Minor:0))) and Venedae in these times.
Yes maybe eg. In Crimea is one old church? Because its not far from Palestine. But it doesnt mean thay christianity was there from 100 AC :0)))
Rus not Russia was founded X century by Vikings Slavs and Finns. And destroyed by Mongols. Present Russia is from Mongols.

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posted April 08, 2021 01:49 PM

Very good. A very interesting article. I recently read about speech recognition technology. As for me, this technology will soon be applied to all gadgets. I recommend reading about speech recognotion technology. Now we already see how it can be applied. For example, in cars or smart home or phone
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