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| Thread: Ways in which Heroes of Might and Magic IV might have worked as a worthy successor |  This thread is pages long: 1 2 · «PREV |
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Ghost
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posted April 12, 2021 05:04 PM |
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@Baronus
If sitting, give 70lvl. I understand you, when false maps. The first creates hard AI, if feeling an easy, the next creates harder AI, etc Don't use a false maps. Think about Brennus' tournament maps, you give 70lvl, movement, spell and creature bonuses to AI. H4 is script game, no hardcore. I think JVC doesn't like false maps. Then he created script program, no one created such maps, what I've played their maps. Grandmaster or something are an easy map also false. How? Multiplayer needs. I hope you like Boar Festival, when ready, but no multiplayer map. Waitings the next map. I think map's name is Illusion Islands. If no working well, my losings. And false maps are better rating.
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vulcancolak
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posted April 13, 2021 12:59 AM |
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I am getting tired to edit maps for "ai" because they are so defensive. So annoying. But best part of it, their playspeed.
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Ghost
Undefeatable Hero
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posted April 13, 2021 06:03 AM |
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Heh yes playspeed. Remember if you've found the best script AI. Copy from your map to paste another your map. Faster!
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iliveinabox05
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posted April 13, 2021 06:26 AM |
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Don't forget that the H4 Advanced Options Map Editor has a tab on it for adding scripts to maps which help the AI play better 
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Baronus
Legendary Hero
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posted April 13, 2021 01:37 PM |
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I never tried. Must see. Because its most important thing. AI should attack if army is enough.
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Ghost
Undefeatable Hero
Therefore I am
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posted April 13, 2021 04:56 PM |
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Yes! Experience level in Combat and Tactics skills, and then two or three spell skills, and creature bonuses. Not easy! If you tried AI scripts, you notice one script is lacking. It's heroes script. In H3 you can give 5lvl to all heroes. In H4 you can't give.
Example of Boar Festival
Hero -> Events -> Timed Events -> Increase experience -> Least and Most powerful Hero in This Army -> Amount 8000 in every day.
Why? If hero with script is dead or in prison, AI buys a new hero without script. JVC isn't given an easy task. So 0-16000 experience point to hero, depends on other strength heroes.
The next largest script like this
Hero -> Events -> Timed Events -> Conditionalaction -> Greater Than or Equals -> Number of Creatures in Army -> Angel, Random Number 2-10, Give 2 angels to This Army in every 7 day, etc
Why? If you want to all creatures. Working! Remember save, copy and paste. Faster! But first time. Remember scripts have different alternative. I chose scripts for Boar Festival. I'm building "AI golem". I also test them.
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iliveinabox05
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posted April 13, 2021 09:18 PM |
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So you can kind of give experience to heroes without actually putting the script on the hero itself, by using placed events.
You would place the events around castles or other important areas the AI would frequent.
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Ghost
Undefeatable Hero
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posted April 13, 2021 10:50 PM |
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Yes when sitting 70lvl. Remember Allied AI playing poor. The best is enemies/opponents. Just tested two AI without troops*, and opponent AI with dozens and several Black Dragons attacked Allies AI for testing in the 3 months. Ok 5 players, 4 can be human. No allies and XL. I like developing AIs. Map can also call pre-map. Illusion Islands I can build a normal map but hardcore AI. Now possibility isn't. Because of created landscape.
*A very poor played AI. I don't know why AI never played brilliance, if Allied. I think player can't learn strategy.
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Baronus
Legendary Hero
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posted April 14, 2021 09:36 AM |
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Yes maybe will be possible boosting something using scripts. Eg. on high level AI often made suicide fighting with strong neutrals :0))) It can be repaired by highest units growth.
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Ghost
Undefeatable Hero
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posted April 14, 2021 11:53 AM |
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Scripts have different alternative
Example of
Monster -> Events - Defeated -> Only run if owner is -> colour -> Give 10 monsters/troops to This Army.
But creative is demanded! And testing also too much working with scripts and not even easy math with.
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iliveinabox05
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posted April 14, 2021 05:22 PM |
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Baronus said:
Yes maybe will be possible boosting something using scripts. Eg. on high level AI often made suicide fighting with strong neutrals :0))) It can be repaired by highest units growth.
The H4 Advanced Options Editor actually has scripts that reduce neutral army sizes when the AI attacks them so that the AI will take significantly fewer losses 
I originally tried reducing the neutral stacks at the beginning of the AI turn, but that takes too much time to run for every neutral stack on the map. This would be the ideal solution since then the AI would be even more likely to attack a neutral stack.
Maybe there's a way I could speed that up. I haven't taken a look at these scripts in a while.
There was also a plan to make more creatures available to recruit, but I never got around to creating those scripts.
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NimoStar
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Modding the Unmoddable
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posted April 14, 2021 05:39 PM |
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Edited by NimoStar at 17:39, 14 Apr 2021.
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Give the AI lots of free resources in events (not just gold, everything) or start with flagged mines.
Since normal Heroes IV recruiting is limited by town hall, I found that works (specially gold mines).
Also give them more starting buildings.
Even in multiplayer-intended maps, this can be done by scripting mines to switch allegiance only if the player is AI.
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Ghost
Undefeatable Hero
Therefore I am
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posted April 15, 2021 01:55 PM |
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Hmm I love to give AI bonuses. Boar Festival - map is given 1m gold, 750 wood and ore, and then 375 crystal, gem, mercury and sulphur.
Happy AI. But I gave over billion gold to Avenger in Return to the Avenger (MWM2) - map, so Avenger doesn't pay surrender.
Illusion Island keeps the same gold balance. 1m is a good.
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Sketchy
Tavern Dweller
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posted April 22, 2021 01:37 AM |
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Having played HMM 2-4, I get that people don't like how they changed up some of the gameplay but I honestly think the reaction (then and now) is way overblown. HMM4 is an excellent game and if you were to give HMM 2-4 to a random gamer today who's never heard of the series, they'd probably like 4th the most due to actual usage of the heroes in combat.
The only real annoying thing is leveling up after 25 becomes difficult and they should've figured out a system that would balance that, but then again, the devs had little time.
The other thing is that the army units look like each one was created with a different art direction. Few of the units look like they belong in the same "faction." Their visual style and color schemes don't really match, except some of the Haven/Life units. But these are super minor complaints for what is a fantastic game.
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