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Thread: IT'S MA'AMAZON you bigot! This thread is 3 pages long: 1 2 3 · «PREV
Kipshasz
Kipshasz


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Elvin's Darkside
posted April 19, 2021 12:20 PM

If you feel a need to coom from just seeing some bare thighs the problen is you buddy, not the thighs.
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Salamandre
Salamandre


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Wog refugee
posted April 19, 2021 12:20 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 12:26, 19 Apr 2021.

@blob

I got your point but I think it's not worth when look from the marketing perspective, nothing to do with censor or ideology. Can you go butt or boobs naked in public? No, because our societies have dress codes. Societies as Islamic theocracies or communist China have those dress codes even more enforced, and that means such games could not sell at all in that area.

So, leave all "creative" ideas which tease with our codes to the modding world then deliver a generic non controversial vanilla, that's optimal marketing.

I am not at all against nudity in games, in Skyrim heroes get naked many times (when killed then robbed, when you enchant your clothes and they go to backpack) so applying some nudity enhanced mod to have fun, why not - I downloaded the "petite, big bongos and trimmed muff version".

Games are not only for straight-normal-males-testosteronpoking, but also for kids, females and elders, keep it decent then leave to each one the option to enhance his own version with anything he likes, by making the game moddable.                                        

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artu
artu


Promising
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My BS sensor is tingling again
posted April 19, 2021 12:34 PM

You can have censorship as a marketing strategy also. The word has a bad reputation, so people dont like to call it that but if you censor butts because of a dress code, it is still censorship. In prime time tv, if they show a movie, they can censor nipples or ass. That’s also because of the dress code. (Which btw, is also part of an ideology in the broadest sense of the word, since all social norms are attached to an ideology one way or the other.) I guess, what you’re trying to say is, it is not because of some marginal ideology but about catering to the mainstream one.
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Ghost
Ghost


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Therefore I am
posted April 19, 2021 12:36 PM

Nude beaches..

Nudist camp..

..and dress code is dated, but people use a norm. I dress my style until death. So the US is the best country, in there people are very different lookings in New York.

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Salamandre
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posted April 19, 2021 12:41 PM

@artu

For me censorship starts when it applies its own subjective values, regardless the laws in place. If the law prohibits having sex with babies, the state prohibiting all pedo sites is not censorship, but enforcing the laws, which are there for a reason.  

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artu
artu


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My BS sensor is tingling again
posted April 19, 2021 01:01 PM

Putting aside the fact that the replaced graphics are not illegal level nudity where they are produced, I think, it is your definition which is subjective.

Whether you agree with the reasons or not, ALL censorship is there for a reason. Anybody who censors something, by law, by board decision, by themselves (auto-censor), have their justification for it. I’m not saying it is always wrong, in your example of pedophile sites, we all agree with the censorship for instance. But it’s not like governments base their laws on some objective, timeless standard beyond social norms. That’s why what is being censored changes from time to time and place to place and if enough people agree, it is actually silly to apply censorship to X subject, laws change. There was a time, blood or kissing was censored in TV.
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Salamandre
Salamandre


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posted April 19, 2021 02:11 PM

Argument that laws and codes change with time is irrelevant, my comment specified "laws in place".

Nudity is somehow regulated by laws. Choosing to not push provocative nudity in a video game can hardly be called censorship. Also, as I said, if you want to sell your product you try to match every culture with its own codes out there.  

We have much bigger problems regarding censorship on our hands atm,to stick to superfluous issues as this one.

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Lith-Maethor
Lith-Maethor


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paid in Coin and Cleavage
posted April 19, 2021 02:23 PM

eh...

Salamandre said:
Choosing to not push provocative nudity in a video game can hardly be called censorship.


Unless you change it to that from a less conservative outfit.
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artu
artu


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My BS sensor is tingling again
posted April 19, 2021 03:28 PM

As I already said, I agree it’s superficial and I wouldnt even notice it probably. But people here seem to think censorship is called only censorship if it is some grand government ban or it is something they oppose to. No. If you take a game and exclude part of original content because of some code of conduct, it falls under the category of censorship. Whether it is justified, marketing strategy, unnecassary etc, doesnt matter.
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blob2
blob2


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Blob-Ohmos the Second
posted April 19, 2021 10:10 PM
Edited by blob2 at 22:18, 19 Apr 2021.

The whole butt thing is meme worthy and I don't understand why people take it seriously.

For me it's more of a "well of course Blizzard will *enchance* the game to meet 2020s standards" case. The "here we go again" kind...

@Salamandre
On a side note you probably don't follow it nor you don't have a reason to but it's something Blizzard has been doing for a while now. Like this: https://www.theouterhaven.net/2019/02/blizzard-censors-jainas-cleavage-in-hearthstone/, mostly due to their favourite "Chinese friends" moral stanards. They've also changed a few cards art later on.

Personaly I find it funny.

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Setsukograb
Setsukograb

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posted June 21, 2021 10:11 PM
Edited by Setsukograb at 14:08, 23 Jun 2021.

Gandalf196 said:
[url=https://boundingintocomics.com/2021/04/15/diablo-ii-resurrected-alpha-test-reveals-blizzard-censorship-and-poor-art-direction-of-upcoming-remaster/?fbclid=IwAR0_DjpGSZJgL1FEiy-wrzundONqBv29tK-WmLdk5-fWLAyTkPujgxSeKCo]https://boundingintocomics.com/2021/04/15/diablo-ii-resurrected-alpha-test-reveals-blizzard-censorship-and-poor-art-direction-of-upcoming-remaster/?fbclid=IwAR0_DjpGSZJgL1FEiy-wrzundONqBv29tK-WmLdk5-fWLAyTkPujgxSeKCo[/url]

Oh, looks worse than I expected. Who made that design??!!! I feel like companies producing such pieces for the fans, lost their spirit and any respect for the community. It's already all about money...this is how such hideous pieces come into the market. And also, when I go through the shelves with toys for kids, all those characters look to awful, and too too much sexuality. I mean, it's a toy! It's supposed to be a part of someone's collection. They even don't give a thing about their operational processes. Why to build a normal delivery when you can pull your product via marketplaces who don't even care about customer experience. No [url=https://www.packages24.com/]global package tracking[/url], no on time delivery, a lot of lost figures.

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NimoStar
NimoStar


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Legendary Hero
Modding the Unmoddable
posted June 22, 2021 05:49 AM
Edited by NimoStar at 05:52, 22 Jun 2021.

I think the censorship is dumb, games like Diablo were absurd over the top, it's part of their charm. What's next, Quake without women that fire missiles from their tits?

It was done that way on purpose not due to lack of social conscience, the purpose was it was "hardcore" even "Offensive".

Now companies have no soul.

But anyways this will just mean modders will make even worse more over the top sexualized designs, so really there is no win here except by virtue signaling.

At least I can only hope the sprites can be extracted so we get them for H4 creatures and heroes :V since the old diablo sprites tend to be too low res. Actually this is the only thing I hope from this remake: High res sprites.

PS: Nevermind they don't even make new sprites. This is worthless, should have figured (but Starcraft remastered did... so a step back)
https://www.reddit.com/r/Diablo/comments/mnud1q/does_diablo_2_resurrected_use_2d_sprites_or_3d/
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Stevie
Stevie


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posted June 23, 2021 05:41 PM
Edited by Stevie at 17:42, 23 Jun 2021.

Only thing left now is that mobile announcement...

I swear, it's like Blizzard never misses a chance to throw a big middle finger to its Diablo fanbase. Bunch of buffoons.

Switch to Path of Exile already, none of this bull**** around there.
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Gnomes2169
Gnomes2169


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Duke of the Glade
posted June 23, 2021 09:46 PM

I am rather hyped to play Path of Exile 2...
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