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Heroes Community > Volcanic Wastelands > Thread: The Transgender Matrix: Itís Time to Choose the Red Pill
Thread: The Transgender Matrix: Itís Time to Choose the Red Pill This thread is 26 pages long: 1 10 ... 16 17 18 19 20 ... 26 · «PREV / NEXT»
fred79
fred79


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posted November 25, 2021 06:58 AM

i think skeletor looks cute in his mankini.

also, where are his nipples? he-man had nipples, and wore the same kind of snow.

so does that mean he-man was a good guy because he had nipples?

and how come they didn't put that kind of nipple-bearing armor on the female characters? was it because they didn't want everyone to know that, secretly, they had no nipples, and were all actually evil???

CONSPIRACY!

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Gnomes2169
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posted November 25, 2021 01:47 PM



Guys. I think Fred is onto something here.
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Ghost
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posted December 01, 2021 07:43 PM

Epicene! Think about today medical techinque says disorder..

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Gandalf196
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posted December 08, 2021 12:39 PM


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fred79
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posted December 08, 2021 01:11 PM

i had a conversation/argument with someone i know irl yesterday, regarding transgenderism.

first off, let me say, that this person believes literally everything the msm tells him, the same as artu, jj, and many others here do. so, i was essentially talking to someone from their group. needless to say, our conversation/argument got us both nowhere. we still get along, despite the fact we are polar opposites in almost every aspect except we're both males, like video games, and have served in the military. that's where our similarities end, and end HARD.

the whole conversation started because i made a typically flippant joke regarding something we were discussing, and i used the word "tranny"(a word i don't normally use in conversation, but it applied humorously to what we were discussing prior to this). he stopped our initial discussion, and remarked "you know that's an offensive word to transgenders". inwardly rolling my eyes and sighing(because now i know he believes THAT specific bs the msm tells him, too), i explained i only used the word flippantly, as i don't, and haven't, discussed anything in that regard, with anyone(irl).

anyway, as our new conversation on that matter carried on, he expressed to me that he had a transgender person in his family, hence the reason he was emotionally invested in the topic.

we exchanged beliefs, his being straight from the msm; mine being from logic and psychological/pharmaceutical knowledge of the illness(prior to the wokeist shift in popular "understanding" and blatant reversal of formerly held scientific and psychological knowledge). i stressed to him how much i cared for the mentally ill, and wanting to help them overcome their issue; with him focusing strictly on the msm-propaganda.

in the end, i tried getting him to understand, that if there were a medicine that actually stopped someone from suffering from gender dysphoria, then the problem was obviously chemical in nature, and thus physical. the problem resulted from a chemical imbalance in the brain, and not a belief the person had(as he believed/was told by the msm).

he disagreed, obviously irritated by simple logic.


at that point, i immediately changed the subject. obviously, trying to reach these people on literally ANYTHING regarding facts that contradict msm brainwashing, is for naught. we've had other discussions regarding topics the msm push on people, and he refuses to have any understanding of anything beyond what the msm tells him, and others like him.

it's beyond frustrating.

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artu
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posted December 08, 2021 02:45 PM

I don't trust everything the msm tells me, the msm isnt a unified source of opinion, just because all msm agrees that the craziest conspiracies you bury yourself into are unreal, doesnt make them agree about everything else. Next time you say something like this, just remember, your idea of valid information and a "passionate speaker of truth who uses basic logic" is Alex Jones. Someone who, when in custody battle for his children, told the court that it was all just performance art, of course he doesnt mean any of it, that would be like judging Jack Nicholson based on Joker. So, your idea of a realistic person is someone who declares he is a troll, in order to prove he is not insane. Let that sink in for a while.

After getting that disinformative personal jab out of the way, let me return to the topic. If my memory serves me well, it was me who linked to you a bunch of scientific info links about how gender dysphoria is caused by bio-chemistry and neurological wiring, hence it is not some delusion but a form of stress. You were the one claiming it was no different
than believing you are a lizard. (But we dont have bio-chemical irregullarities that lead people into feeling like a lizard, do we.) You claimed it was a delusional belief, I objected by informing you it was chemical. You are unintentionally and finally admiting you were flat-out wrong here.

Now, does it make it a mental illness just because it is an irregularity. A mental illness is something that prevents you from functioning in social, work or family activities. The dysphoria is a form of stress and can cause that, if changing their gender fixes the stress, then it's not. Let's take a look at the Wachowskis for example, as of this year, as transgender people, they were trusted with a project (The Matrix Resurrections) with a budget around 200 million dollars. They seem to be doing okay and quite functional to me. How is that for a "red pill." Meanwhile, your idea of "simple logic" is the equivalent of a self-confessing troll's and you completely rewrote history regarding your stance on this subject. Which one of you seem to be more troubled with "imbalance?" I have a guess.
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JollyJoker
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posted December 08, 2021 02:52 PM

Okay, that makes my answer redundant.

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fred79
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posted December 08, 2021 07:16 PM

you're both full of snow. if you can't even be honest with yourself, you cannot be honest with anyone else.

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JollyJoker
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posted December 08, 2021 07:50 PM

Since YOU are so honest, I'm sure you can tell me why you are so invested in this and have such a strong opinion. Has something happened to you involving trans? Is it necessary for the salvation of your soul to even have a strict opinion on this. AND actually fight for it, claiming that YOU know everything and everyone claiming something else is full of s**t?

Why is that even important to you?

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Kayna
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posted December 08, 2021 07:56 PM

I believe people should have the right to do whatever they want with their bodies, and so the transgender debate already ends there for me. *shrug*

I do not think being a transgender is a mental illness, although, from my interpretation of what I see from psychiatry, I believe they should consider it a mental illness but refuses to because they're scared of the public backlash.

The number of mental illnesses keeps on piling, 10 years ago, it was 1 person out of 10, now it's 1 person out of 3. At this point, anyone that differs from the standard, mentally healthy person model has some kind of mental illness. Being a transgender is quite a difference from the standard person.

Don't take my opinion the wrong way. I don't question transgenders. I question psychiatry. Psychiatry that is also used to destroy people's credibility, in court and in everyday life, used to blame one person instead of the other, used to keep people in prison for 30 days instead of just 1 ( your numbers may vary from country to country ), used to manipulate people in some ways here and there.

I suggest that when you see a transgender person, you just shrug, not particularly care about the subject and move on. There's just not enough to have this constant debate about it.

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Salamandre
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posted December 08, 2021 08:03 PM

Yes, people should be able to do whatever they want with their bodies, as long at it is not subsidized, like abortion, sex change (army), and assisted procreation, by the tax payer.

Once the tax payer supports it, is normal that he should be entitled to criticize.  

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JollyJoker
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posted December 08, 2021 08:10 PM

So you are an expert on what is a mental illness and what not? Or is your opinion based on gut feeling?

*My* opinion is that reality isn't bowing to our idea of what is mental and what is biological and what is physical - it doesn't have to be one or another, it can be a a combination of factors, like, say with depressive disorders.

It's not that long ago that we's probably have electroshocked all this people - we don't really KNOW all that much about these things, although we like to pretend we do.

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artu
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My BS sensor is tingling again
posted December 08, 2021 08:28 PM

@Kanya

My take is that it developed into a sub-culture, say, like Punk in the 1970ís. So when someone says I donít like to wear a tie, it is no longer about how they dont want to wear a tie.

That is of course problematic in many ways because having a sex change operation isnt the same as wearing a leather jacket. It has much more permanent consequances. But thatís the political aspect. Transgenders do exist and most people snow on them because of the ďfab.Ē
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Kayna
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posted December 08, 2021 08:32 PM

Barely 15 years ago, people spoke of psychology and psychiatry as "inexact" sciences. Today, the new generation speaks of it as a standard science, like many other, and that makes me sad.

Black people fleeing slavery were affected by "drapetomania", back then. Today, electro shock therapy is still legal in some places in the USA, thinking you're followed by the police is a mental illness, even if some are indeed followed for real, lawyers can destroy your credibility in court by citing your mental illness, etc etc

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artu
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posted December 08, 2021 08:46 PM

Any science is inexact. They become closer to exact, itís infinite.
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OhforfSake
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posted December 08, 2021 09:48 PM

I don't think he means how certain we are of a given falsifiable theory of which we can make predictions of the future, but rather that these fields are too complex to even have such a luxury.

After all, all treatment of mental illness is palliative, there is no cure, and if someone is diagnosed with a mental illness it is for life, even if the symptoms disappear.

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posted December 08, 2021 09:52 PM

Yes, psychiatry is first and foremost a practice of social control, and a "science" very distantly.

Medicine is based on the curing of ailments, yet psychiatry professes not only to have no cures, but that cures are essentially impossible.

The diagnosed person becomes a second-rate citizen that can be treated in a subhuman way because they are considered "mentally ill".

Yet this is , of course , "for their own good". A good we rarely ever come to see and accept only as a matter of faith in the system.
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OhforfSake
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posted December 08, 2021 09:59 PM

People who rely on medicine due to various ailments, mental or otherwise, do require their medicine. Psychiatric medicine does have a positive contribution for people with mental illness who wish to be able to be part of society.

If that is always the case, I obviously can't say.

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JollyJoker
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posted December 08, 2021 10:03 PM

Everyone an expert now on medicine and psychiatry?

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fred79
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posted December 08, 2021 10:12 PM

more than anyone following the msm, absolutely. some of us find our information from valid sources not grounded in make-believe wokeist propaganda.

as for your earlier question, i'll refer you to bloodsucker's sig. what he quoted me saying, applies to why i try to keep others informed of unbiased fact.

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