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Thread: Oops, this is the thread for my HoMM8 idea
ArdentWyrm
ArdentWyrm


Famous Hero
King of the Elder Dragons
posted November 14, 2022 08:55 PM
Edited by ArdentWyrm at 21:18, 17 Nov 2022.

Oops, this is the thread for my HoMM8 idea

Here's my HoMM8 idea:            KEY: > indicates an upgrade M
Factions                  M indicates a melee unit
Kingdom                      R indicates ranged unit
Creatures
Tier 1
pikeman>legionaire(M,walker)
-or-
crossbowman>marksman(R,walker, no long range penalty for marksman)
Tier 2
swordsman>landsknecht(M,walker)
-or-
justicar>zealot(M,walker)
Tier 3
priest>patriarch(R,walker, spellcaster)
-or-
paladin>crusader(M,walker, crusader attacks twice.)
Tier 4
cavalier>champion(M, walker, charge ability.)
-or-
varangian guard>varangian guard captain(M,walker, +30% defense to adjacent allies.)

Heroes
might: knight. magic: chaplain.
theme: the kingdom is the replacement faction name for haven/castle and has no magical units except for priests/patriarchs.
grail building: altar of light. native terrain: grasslands.

Hell
Creatures
Tier 1
imp>hellspawn(M,walker, mana drain)
-or-
maniac>maniac torturer(M,walker, -1 morale to victims of attack)
Tier 2
hell hound>cerberus(M,walker, cerberus attacks three tiles in front)
-or-
succubus>cambion(R,flyer, cambion can cast hypnotize once per combat. )
Tier 3
efreet>efreet sultan(M,flyer, efreet sultan's attack casts misfortune)
-or-
pit fiend>pit spawn(M,walker, pit spawn has vorpal sword and can summon maniacs.)
Tier 4
balrog>demon(M,teleporter, enemies get -1 luck, immune to fire magic)
-or-
warlock>pyromancer(R,walker, spellcaster, ranged attack of pyromancer affects all units adjacent to target)

Heroes
might: heretic. magic: demonologist.
theme: hell is replacement name for inferno and is all about fire, destruction ,and torture.
grail building: deity of defilement. native terrain: lavalands.

Feywild
Creatures
Tier 1
pixie>dryad(M,flyer)
-or-
panther>moon panther(M,walker, no enemy retaliation.)
Tier 2
hunter>tracker(R,walker, tracker fires two shots per ranged attack)
-or-
hag>elder hag(M,walker, attack casts weakness)
Tier 3
druid>archdruid(R,walker, spellcaster, earth magic spells hero casts are cast at hero's spellpower +2.)
-or-
unicorn>pure unicorn(M,walker, blinding attack, pure unicorn gives +1 luck to adjacent allies.)
Tier 4
firebird>phoenix(M,flyer, breath attack, fire magic immunity, rebirth.)
-or-
green dragon>energy dragon(M,flyer, breath attack, attack casts disrupting ray, energy dragon is immune to spells levels 1-3.)

Heroes
might: ranger. magic: woodcaller.
theme: feywild is replacement name for sylvan and is composed of woodland and fey creatures, with the iclusion of dragons and phoenixes.
grail building: primeval grove. native terrain: forest.

Tribe
Creatures
Tier 1
goblin>hobgoblin(M,walker)
-or-
wolf>dire wolf(M,walker, pack tactics gives wolf +1 attack and defense if three or more allies are present.)
Tier 2
orc>orc mauler(M,walker, rage: orcs with half or less of their starting health get +2 attack.)
-or-
bloodcaller> high bloodcaller(R,walker, spellcaster)
Tier 3
roc>simurgh(M,flyer, simurgh's attack casts random curse on target.)
-or-
ogre>ogre chieftain(M,walker)
Tier 4
behemoth>ancient behemoth(M,walker, classic defense reduction ability.)
-or-
sand wurm>siege wurm(M,walker, can burrow into enemy ranks.)

Heroes
might: barbarian. magic: shaman.
theme: tribe is replacement name for stronghold and is about barbarians and beasts and desert stuff.
grail building: warlords' fortress. native terrain: desert.

Conflux
Creatures
Tier 1
gargoyle>obsidian gargoyle(M,flyer, construct.)
-or-
lizardfolk>lizardfolk master(R,walker)
Tier 2
stone golem>steel golem(M,walker, construct, stone golem takes 50% less damage from spells, steel golem takes 75% less. )
-or-
apprentice>mage(R,walker, spellcaster, shot affects all units in a line, hero spells cost -2 mana,-3 for archmage.)
Tier 3
djinn>power djinn(M,flyer, casts random blessing on allies every three rounds)
-or-
kirin>sacred kirin(M,walker, leaves ally-boosting trail)
Tier 4
goliath>titan(M>R,walker, immune to mind magic, no melee penalty, melee attack of titan has 20% chance to cast lightning bolt, titan hates black dragons.))
-or-
naga>naga monarch(M,walker, naga monarch attacks twice, no enemy retaliation.)

Heroes
might: artificer. magic: wizard.
theme: I renamed academy conflux because conflux also means "river-junction" and I reimagined it to be a "magic-junction".
grail building: tower of the archmagi. native terrain: snow.

Dungeon
Creatures
Tier 1
troglodyte>troglodyte overseer(M, walker, immune to blind spell.)
-or-
shadow>shadow assassin(M, walker, no enemy retaliation for the assassin.)
Tier 2
griffin>ferocious griffin(M, flyer, unlimited retaliation, ferocious griffin has battle dive.)
-or-
watchful eye>elder eye(R, flyer, no melee penalty, elder eye ranged attack casts slow.
Tier 3
minotaur>minotaur lord(M, walker, morale is never below 1. minotaur lord's morale and luck are never below 1.)
-or-
medusa>medusa mistress(R, walker, no melee penalty, melee attack has 20% chance to turn target to stone for three rounds.)
Tier 4
bronze dragon>black dragon(M, flyer, breath attack, bronze dragon immune to spells levels 1-3, black dragon immune to all spells, black dragon hates goliaths and titans.)
-or-
behir>hydra(M, walker, no enemy retaliation, hydra attacks all adjacent tiles, can cast frost ring twice each combat.)

Heroes
might: dragonlord. magic: sorcerer.
theme: I couldn't find a replacement name for dungeon, so I used the good old name. Dungeon is all about darkness, underground and dragons. the society is based on dragons, literally.
grail building: elder dragon pinnacle. native terrain: subterranean.

Necropolis
Creatures
Tier 1
skeleton>skeleton soldier(M, walker, undead.)
-or-
ghoul>mutant ghoul(M, walker, undead, mutant ghoul's attack has 20% chance to disease target for 2 rounds.)
Tier 2
ghost>wight(M, flyer, undead, necrotic touch  casts the curse spell on the target.)
-or-
spider>death spider(M, walker, undead, death spider's attack has 20% chance to poison target for 5 rounds.)
Tier 3
vampire>vampire count(M, walker, no enemy retaliation, undead, vampire count has life drain.)
-or-
lich>archlich(R, walker, spellcaster, undead, death cloud ranged attack, archlich can cast animate dead once per combat.
Tier 4
bone dragon>spectral dragon(M, flyer, undead, -1 enemy morale, spectral dragon can steal a soul once per combat (if a stack's soul is stolen its HP is halved and spectral dragon heals to full HP, no resurrection.)
-or-
dread lord>sauron(M, walker, undead, attacks have 20% chance to to double damage. 30% for sauron.)

Heroes
might: death knight. magic: necromancer.
theme: again, no replacement name for necropolis, which is all about undead and spiders.
grail building: temple of undeath. native terrain: cursed ground.

Neutral
Tier 1
peasant(M, walker.)
halfling(R, walker, luck is never below 1.)
gremlin(M, walker, +1 ore or wood(chosen randomly) per day, not per gremlin.)
Tier 2
harpy(M,flyer, no enemy retaliation, strike and return.)
centaur(R, walker, no penalty for siege walls.)
mummy(M, walker, attack casts curse or weakness.)
air elemental(R, flyer, elemental, immune to air magic, air spells hero casts cost -2 mana less.)
water elemental(M, walker, elemental, immune to water magic, attack has 20% chance to cast ice bolt.)
Tier 3
fire elemental(R, flyer, elemental, immune to fire magic, 20% chance to have fire shield when attacked.)
earth elemental(M, walker, elemental, immune to earth magic, attack has 20% chance to stun target.)
enchanter(R, walker, casts mass beneficial spell on allies every three rounds, 5 times per combat.)
Tier 4
angel(M, flyer, hates devils, resurrects dead allied stack once per combat.)
devil(M, teleporter, hates angels, summons pit fiends twice per combat.)
red dragon(M, flyer, breath attack, magic mirror against all fire spells, even your own spells are reflected at enemy.)
Tier 5
faerie dragon(R, flyer, breath attack.)
crystal dragon(M, breath attack, +1 crystal per day per dragon.)
azure dragon(M, breath attack, fear to enemies.)
tarrasque(M, walker, deals double damage to walls and gates, attack has 20% chance to paralyze target.)
my HoMM8 project is complete.


possible kingdom replacement lineup:
Tier 1
pikeman>legionaire(M,walker)
-or-
crossbowman>marksman(R,walker, no long range penalty for marksman)
Tier 2
deva>consecrated deva(M, flyer, all allies get +1 morale.)
-or-
justicar>zealot(M,walker.)
Tier 3
priest>patriarch(R,walker, spellcaster)
-or-
avatar of light>avatar of blessings(M, walker, all allies receive
+1 attack, defense, and speed. +2 for avatar of blessings.)
Tier 4
cavalier>champion(M,walker, charge ability.)
-or-
couatl>exalted couatl(M, flyer, aura of evil destruction: all adjacent enemies receive -25% damage and initiative, 35% for exalted couatl, note: couatl is inspired by D&D couatl, which is classified as a celestial.)


Now for some art/images:
Black Dragon

Champion

Azure Dragon



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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted November 14, 2022 11:30 PM

Moved to the Altar.
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ArdentWyrm
ArdentWyrm


Famous Hero
King of the Elder Dragons
posted November 14, 2022 11:35 PM

What got moved to the altar?, I thought this already is the altar.

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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted November 14, 2022 11:39 PM

Now it is, you initially posted your thread in the Newcomers Inn.
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ArdentWyrm
ArdentWyrm


Famous Hero
King of the Elder Dragons
posted November 15, 2022 12:07 AM

That's true. I realized my mistake so I made a new thread here at the altar.

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MattII
MattII


Legendary Hero
posted November 15, 2022 10:28 AM
Edited by MattII at 10:29, 15 Nov 2022.

Some interesting ideas here. You need a bit more description though, such as whether creatures are flyers or walkers, and some other basic abilities (are any of them spellcasters f.e.?).

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ArdentWyrm
ArdentWyrm


Famous Hero
King of the Elder Dragons
posted November 16, 2022 12:48 AM

Ok, I'll edit it so there are more details.

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MattII
MattII


Legendary Hero
posted November 16, 2022 09:16 PM

Okay, let's check this out
* Kingdom - Not good, in that removing the few non-humans makes the faction even more limited and boring than it was already. There's now no flyers, which will make terrain a real issue.
* Hell - An interesting lineup.
* Feywild - A couple of interesting choices here.
* Tribe - Fairly 'typical' for a town of this kind, but not necessarily boring. The Sand Worm is an interesting addition.
* Conflux - A interesting mix. A more jungle-like terrain, rather than a desert one?
* Dungeon - Similar enough to the standard, with enough differences to make it interesting.
* Necropolis - Hm, very similar to standard.

Overall, not a bad set of lineups, excepting Kingdom.

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ArdentWyrm
ArdentWyrm


Famous Hero
King of the Elder Dragons
posted November 16, 2022 10:21 PM
Edited by ArdentWyrm at 22:46, 16 Nov 2022.

MattII said:
Okay, let's check this out
* Kingdom - Not good, in that removing the few non-humans makes the faction even more limited and boring than it was already. There's now no flyers, which will make terrain a real issue.
* Hell - An interesting lineup.
* Feywild - A couple of interesting choices here.
* Tribe - Fairly 'typical' for a town of this kind, but not necessarily boring. The Sand Worm is an interesting addition.
* Conflux - A interesting mix. A more jungle-like terrain, rather than a desert one?
* Dungeon - Similar enough to the standard, with enough differences to make it interesting.
* Necropolis - Hm, very similar to standard.

Overall, not a bad set of lineups, excepting Kingdom.

Yeah, kingdom has no humans because I was trying to make it a "town with no magic units", but I can see how it can be unlikeable.

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ArdentWyrm
ArdentWyrm


Famous Hero
King of the Elder Dragons
posted November 16, 2022 10:44 PM
Edited by ArdentWyrm at 22:45, 16 Nov 2022.

would this be a more interesting possible replacement lineup for kingdom?:
Tier 1
pikeman>legionaire(M,walker)
-or-
crossbowman>marksman(R,walker, no long range penalty for marksman)
Tier 2
deva>consecrated deva(M, flyer, all allies get +1 morale.)
-or-
justicar>zealot(M,walker.)
Tier 3
priest>patriarch(R,walker, spellcaster)
-or-
avatar of light>avatar of blessings(M, walker, all allies receive
+1 attack, defense, and speed. +2 for avatar of blessings.)
Tier 4
cavalier>champion(M,walker, charge ability.)
-or-
couatl>exalted couatl(M, flyer, aura of evil destruction: all adjacent enemies receive -25% damage and initiative, 35% for exalted couatl, note: couatl is inspired by D&D couatl, which is classified as a celestial.)

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MattII
MattII


Legendary Hero
posted November 17, 2022 01:10 AM

That definitely looks more interesting.

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ArdentWyrm
ArdentWyrm


Famous Hero
King of the Elder Dragons
posted November 17, 2022 06:33 PM
Edited by ArdentWyrm at 19:25, 17 Nov 2022.

Ok, I might consider changing it, but for now I'll just add it as a possible replacement lineup.
Anyway, here comes my idea for the story of HoMM8:
Kingdom
Worshippers of the light god Seluras, the humans of the nation Elemor have dedicated themselves to destroying and thwarting the forces of evil, particularly the forces of Hell. Their society is especially religious-based with high priests of Seluras possessing as much power as the king's 2nd in command himself. Elemor was founded among the pieces of the previous human kingdom Arabor, whose king was corrupted by a devil, and fell. Only a handful of humans survived the demon onslaught, and they are the ancestors of the humans of present day Elemor.

Hell
The demons of Hell have always dreamed of ruling the world, and just 300 years ago that dream almost came true, with the humans of Arabor having a corrupted king, the wizards of Acadia in chaos from portals to Hell opening all over their country, the elves of the Feywild having their nation set alight by large demon forces, and the sorcerers of Darkoril
being overcome by the warlocks' fire magic. But for the first time in the history of Gargoroth (the world the game is set in) all races united to stop the hellish invasion, which is why demons despise all races.

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Ghost
Ghost


Legendary Hero
Therefore I am
posted November 17, 2022 08:56 PM



I hope UbiSoft collects everyone HC ideas.. or we don't play H8.. UbiSoft must build our idea, thus final possibility..
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ArdentWyrm
ArdentWyrm


Famous Hero
King of the Elder Dragons
posted November 17, 2022 09:20 PM
Edited by ArdentWyrm at 01:04, 19 Nov 2022.

Ghost said:


I hope UbiSoft collects everyone HC ideas.. or we don't play H8.. UbiSoft must build our idea, thus final possibility..

That's right, ghost, if they don't then they ought to sell heroes rights.
link to Faction recreation contest 8: sanctuary.

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