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Thread: HoMM player and thing
Ghost
Ghost


Undefeatable Hero
Therefore I am
posted January 24, 2024 10:45 PM

HoMM player and thing

When player A is playing too much, but another player B played lesser time and player B beats player A who played too much. Is player A is stupid, thus developed so poor. I'm disagree with thing, because player A needed experience from the map, MP, lesson/tutorial, etc Player B used them.. Is player A is a brain, if player A got a experience from the map, etc I'm disagree with thing, if player B is playing too much time.. No, we can't know how..



You see Experts and non-expers.. But I ask you old fashioned players.. What the meter forget them.. Ok! I explain you that legendary Canadian ice hockey player named Wayne Gretzky.. But today day he can't do the same thing, because on the ice happened much developed.. So Wayne is old fashioned brain.. Our new brain is Connor McDavid.. Right? I'm disagree with thing, if medical drug gives us also Wayne more age, so he can play still on the ice.. If he can't be better than McDavid.. I can think that different skills and abilities..

Is it over? Ok one philosopher yet.. Chess computer! What? When developing supercomputer can be analyzed very fast.. A old computer needed only time.. If timeless game, so draw, but if chess time control, supercomputer takes first place.. Because modern machine.. It after you can think yourself

Now's free talk about HoMM player and thing..

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Elvin
Elvin


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posted January 26, 2024 07:37 AM
Edited by Elvin at 07:44, 26 Jan 2024.

Some months back I played someone who thought he was a good player because he'd been playing H5 consistently since 2008. Versus his father, no multiplayer. He got beaten a couple of times and in the last game I summon a stronk phoenix(that ended up destroying his army due to high sp) and he asks what is that. Very confused, I tell him it's a phoenix summon and that I didn't mod it in any way. He's like, oh, I never use summoning because I don't like it. He left disappointed that he'd wasted all these years without having much to show for it.

So..

- Only multiplayer experience matters, where you can see if your strategy/tactics work or not. Defeating friends or family does not mean anything. AI means even less.
- Must have knowledge of everything, even things you don't use.
- Must have both tactical skill and efficient map exploration/creeping.
- Must be a little lucky too, games are still lost to bad luck

I think that a less experienced player can still grow fast and outperform a more 'experienced' player if given some very specific advice on skills, town building and spells.
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Ghost
Ghost


Undefeatable Hero
Therefore I am
posted January 27, 2024 08:02 PM

A good speaking..

I add on one thing.. If you want to become good chess player.. You must to visit a chess club.. You shouldn't visit a chess park, or the modern era chess internet, etc Why? You can't develop your chess game due to different rule and theory.. I can say that 3DO, or HotA and WoG also mod.. One prodigy named Joshua Waitzkin, he wanted to chess park, but his chess coach refused Joshua goes to chess park.. So he learned a new trick But in tournament, he lost his Queen due to chess park, but Joshua was Lucky that his opponent lost his Queen.. Its chess park trick.. Risky! But American pro chess player named Hikaru Nakamura is always visiting chess park.. He won all.. Why he visits a chess park, he wanted to see and learn a new thing.. Ok! Yes you notice that rules.. No only Heroes but all games.. Beware of the ego, if your rule, but you lose your game.. Why a rule? Easier to play.. I've seen many cheaters, esp. chess*.. Don't play as for you, an example Necromancy or artifact negates natural Magic Resistance of all creatures.. If you're making a map and rule.. The best true as chess club..

*You must to know all chess tournament rules..
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Unhinged_Pro
Unhinged_Pro


Adventuring Hero
posted January 27, 2024 08:23 PM

A good example is for driving, why are there people with 1k+ hours of driving and still drive poorly? It's not because of time spent, but because of what they train as fundamentals and specific experience. Same goes for the moba league of legends.
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Ghost
Ghost


Undefeatable Hero
Therefore I am
posted January 30, 2024 11:52 PM

One yet!

What about strong comp AI? An example chess computer. I don't think you invent my explanation. Ok we'll start with easy matter, when hard level chess machine, you beat it, your chess rating is lesser than beaten hard chess rating, because human players are playing different style, and your chess machine always plays own the same style. But if you say world champion chess engine class.. Yes you can play better than human players, but you can't be better in another engine, because it plays different style as human player.. World champion chess engine never played two same times again.. and they develop better engines are coming yet.. No help that only one opponent.. So heroes, you must play with different opponents.. You can start maps.. So you can see different level.. And then MP, hotseat, etc

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Ghost
Ghost


Undefeatable Hero
Therefore I am
posted February 05, 2024 06:09 PM

Another what? Only thing you can play against computer AI, what? Neutral.. Its most important that you can anything to beat the neutral due to you win your time and movement.. If you're waiting for more troops, and MP opponent used lesser troops, so opponent has continue on the way.. My HotA map is coming, mapname is The Dead Ornament, only you fight against neutral to victory, you never meet your murder OP AI for weak thousands of neutrals, or your friend, if you're playing hotseat or MP.. If you want to meet them, you need airship, and map hasn't airship.. So only your showing skill is against neutrals.. Interesting! Earlier I made a map named True or Fantasy, now's new variation, thus player can't meet other opponent in 99% possibly in final territory where are 4 exit portals near the last task.. Yeah you follow a Eye of the Magi to see their troops or they leave the final task using a TP.. It can call some is the best SP.. It can also play against ghost time is opponent.. Whichever is faster! Yea gamble can be there.. If opponent doesn't go to their towns back nor taking the last task, only waiting for you.. Thanks..

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