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phoenix4ever
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posted July 04, 2026 07:41 PM |
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New mass spells (Heroes 3 and HotA)
Hi guys
I have been adding a few mass spells, for a while now, namely Slayer and Magic Mirror.
I also had Fire Shield as a mass spell for a while, but I decided to make it single target again, since all units getting 30% Fire Shields was surpringsly (too) powerful.
Today I decided to make Hypnotize a mass spell. I haven't tested it yet and though it sounds powerful, remember the HP limit it affects are still low and many units are immune to mind spells.
I suppose you haven't tried the above, but what do you think about Hypnotize, Fire Shield, Slayer and Magic Mirror being mass spells?
Do you think other spells should be mass spells or NOT be mass spells?
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bloodsucker
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posted July 05, 2026 06:12 AM |
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First, thank you for continuing post these threads, I need my daily dose of Heroes III cheap chatting.
About the topic, Hypnotize seems a terrible idea cause it will fail if too much HP and will be a tremendous Berserk for several turns when it lands, so irremediablebly broken.
Mass Expert Fire Shield is already a thing with the Ironfist but maybe if you could lower it to mass basic Fire Shield it would be ok (not sure if you could do it with hex-editing, I only know how to do it in ERM).
Slayer OTOH should mass, maybe quite expensive since you would cast it only once per battle and it's generally reserved to neutral superstacks like Azure Dragons.
I have strong doubts about Magic Mirror, if 50% chances your spells turn on you, you won't ever risk casting offensive spells. But I almost never cast damage spells and I'm not sure if it reflects Slow, Blind or Berserk.
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Phoenix4ever
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posted July 05, 2026 07:06 AM |
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Thanks, sadly HC is pretty dead now a days, but I don't want it to die completely.
Yeah Slayer can no doubt be a mass spell, it's quite an expensive level 4 spell so yeah.
Hypnotize as I said I haven't tested it yet, as I just introduced it yesterday. It might be too powerful, but again HP it affects is low and many units are immune.
Buffing the power modifier of Hypnotize is a bad idea, since it will also buff Fangarms.
Yeah I don't know about mass Fire Shield, I found it bit too powerful, even "basic mass Fire Shield" would turn your entire army + war machines and summons into Efreet Sultans!
Hehe sounds like you don't know how Magic Mirror works, I'll leave this here: https://heroes.thelazy.net/index.php/Magic_Mirror 
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Phoenix4ever
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posted July 05, 2026 10:09 AM |
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Perhaps Hypnotize could also have area effect like Berserk, but I want to test the mass version for a bit first.
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