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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: Testing the Pit Lord effect on Familiars. Bringing back the underrated Inferno
Thread: Testing the Pit Lord effect on Familiars. Bringing back the underrated Inferno This thread is 3 pages long: 1 2 3 · «PREV / NEXT»
kuma
kuma


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posted June 26, 2003 03:06 PM
Edited By: Kuma on 19 Jul 2003

I would suggest u practise a lot b4 u lay ur faith in the hands of Pitlords.

On Extreme and Blockbuster it might be a very good tactic tho.
Just make sure u have ur Merc-mine asap.

I guess it's worth to wait wif the upgrade of ur devils to spend the 9 merc on upgrading PL's

Another thing tho: I do like to upgrade my efreet day 8 the last 2 times I played inferno. Really helped killed the shooters for goldmine and/or 2nd area.
It's also a setback of 5 merc-supply, but still.
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Pollo2002
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posted June 28, 2003 09:04 AM

It always can be good

Daemong farming is always a good deal, always i play inferno i have a calc on hand......i don't want to lose any hitpoint of creatures

And Pitlords don't resurrect, 1,4232143243wrw34321432423213 % of daemons, they resurrect 50 HP of deamons. canot resurrect more daemons than pitlords OR dead cretures.

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Nemesis
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posted July 08, 2003 09:33 PM

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You are also limited by the amount of pit lords you have.
1 pit lord can resurect 1 demon
9 imps -> 1 pit lord -> 1 raised demon


Today I had a game where my 15 Pit Lords were able to summon up 21 demons from a stack of imps ... so I'm wondering ... is it true that summoning demons is limited by the number of Pit Lords? And, if yes, in which way?

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Lord_Woock
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posted July 08, 2003 09:37 PM

One pit lord can summon up to 1,428 demons.
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Marelt_Ekiran
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posted July 08, 2003 09:58 PM

A few other restrictions on the plan:

The Pit Lord has the top rank on the death list of the AI. In a battle, the AI will run all it's units to suicide, only to take down your Pit Lords. It takes careful planning and good tactics to survive battles with all Pit Lords intact. Especially if there are shooters in the enemy army.

The stack needs to be completely dead before they can be raised. Before battle, you need to calculate how much fodder you need to raise a decent amount of demons, put them in a seperate stack and let them take all the damage. If the enemy is too weak and fails to kill your fodder, then you lose your fodder without demons. If the enemy has a bit of mobility, they will go for the Pit Lords and leave the fodder. Again, it takes careful planning to do this right.

The demons raised are unupgraded demons. These are quite slow and the upgrade to horned demons would be desirable. However, keeping them upgraded can be a logistical nightmare.

I'm not sure, but I think that elementals, undead and mechanicals cannot be ressurected.
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Lord_Woock
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posted July 08, 2003 10:28 PM

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The Pit Lord has the top rank on the death list of the AI. In a battle, the AI will run all it's units to suicide, only to take down your Pit Lords. It takes careful planning and good tactics to survive battles with all Pit Lords intact. Especially if there are shooters in the enemy army


Wandering slow creatures like dwarves, dendroids and golems are good for harvesting. You just push the fodder to their side of the battlefield (haste if necesary), and they will pummel it first, because there's nothing else within reach. Tested on impossible.
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Kuma
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posted July 20, 2003 08:33 AM
Edited By: Kuma on 20 Jul 2003

Bumping it up for Bjorn

Take a better look next time b4 u open a thread, will ya mate?

Edit: I just saw u were also the opener of THIS thread; u playing a joke here; care to explain?
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bjorn190
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posted July 20, 2003 08:50 AM

Well this thread was about how inferno is good, cause of demons. The new one was about how I needed help to learn how to do it.

I see now tho, that this thread has some good advice about how to do it. I was hoping for more advice tho. I will ask haile

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bjorn190
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posted July 20, 2003 08:52 AM

Also, even I myself, dont have the patiance to wait 2+ years fora  good joke   This thread was created over 2 years ago lol.

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Kuma
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posted July 20, 2003 10:11 AM

hehe, ok.
Well Running-man, let's hear those tips from u.
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haile73
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posted July 20, 2003 10:23 AM

lol, how the heck did I get into this?

also interesting to see that bjorn asks for inferno info AT THE END of the ww tribe season, being member of "my" inferno (& dungeon) tribe. go play some games will ya

with the 3 pit lord bonus in tribes on fixed maps, it was funny though. always had 20+ demons middle of week one and it was unbelievable how many stacks wanted greater glory. guess they did not know they would end up as demons hehe.

afaik, there's another thread about demon farming in the library. it has all the infos this thread has and maybe a little more.

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bjorn190
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posted July 20, 2003 12:50 PM

hehe yea.. well I got a bit bored after 12 straight wins  Will brb tho

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stargazer
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posted August 09, 2003 09:17 PM

Inferno is the weakest town this is how i battle them
im useally castle because of my favorate hero mulchy boy +2 combat speed to alll his troops is devestating if you have him in any tavern he is a must! this pratical gives you on a silver plater rain over the battlefield. simple no?
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Odvin
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posted August 09, 2003 09:44 PM

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Daemong farming is always a good deal, always i play inferno i have a calc on hand......i don't want to lose any hitpoint of creatures

You'll soon have my Heroic Calculator 2.0, which has the demon farming feature built in.

Quote:
And Pitlords don't resurrect, 1,4232143243wrw34321432423213 % of daemons, they resurrect 50 HP of deamons. canot resurrect more daemons than pitlords OR dead cretures.

Right for the 50 HPs. Wrong that pitlords cannot resurrect more demons that there are in the pitlords stack. I've tried it out recently. Say, 7 pit lords - that will be 350 HP resurrected - can bring up to 10 demons, provided that they have a dead stack with enuf HPs from which to raise.
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Xarfax111
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posted August 10, 2003 12:33 AM
Edited By: Xarfax111 on 9 Aug 2003

Quote:
Quote:
Daemong farming is always a good deal, always i play inferno i have a calc on hand......i don't want to lose any hitpoint of creatures


..an easy way is to print this little Table. There ull find in seconds the optimized creature amount for some nice farming.

Its limited to a realistic 4 weeks Pit Lord Production and by 35 HP per creature as after this its a 1 to 1 situation (1 Archangel with 250HP will give u 1 Demon).

Ready for Printing:

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allu
allu


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posted August 18, 2003 01:30 PM

did some one sayd that inferno 7th l creature is weak
it is weaker than those supreme dragons and angles
but he is stronger than these other 7th l creatures

so what if he has 200hp

and pit lords have pretty good damageand I never upgrade gogs beacause I only summon deamons with these and they take all the fire in a battle where u fight with some ranged atack ability guy

yeah what eva
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hamsi128
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posted September 09, 2003 04:07 PM

something i want to add in demons ressurection

for example you regarding to xarfax tableau your pitlords need 125 imps for x number of demons... if you got 126 imps you got +1 demon.

ofcourse its works if its not passing your pitlords demonressurect limit.

its a little detail but 1 demon for 1 imp is cool

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Fenix
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posted September 11, 2003 07:01 PM

Inferno should not be underrated because in the hands of a skillful player it is the most dangerous town. You can do demon farming with hero which carries whole army, and you give efreets to Zydar if you teach him Armaggedonn. You are able to have two very strong armies and the game should be over in these circumstances.
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Pollo2002
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posted September 16, 2003 11:18 PM

Say a good town, is ok, The MOST dangerous town..is a little over the top..don't you think?
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Fenix
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posted September 17, 2003 09:07 AM

Well... I must agree.
A correction: In appropriate conditions (arm.) fighting against a skillful player, Inferno is one of the most dangerous towns.
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