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Thread: This is getting embarrasing
Henl86
Henl86


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posted July 04, 2002 05:32 AM

This is getting embarrasing

Online multiplayer was promised in april, it is now july. Support your games ffs!!! I would never have bought HoMM4 if I knew it was going to be like this. Releasing a game in beta shape, making some minimal fixes and downright lie about multiplayer support.
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celfious
celfious


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Typo recoverey
posted July 04, 2002 03:54 PM

I've said it before, and I'll say it again.

I'm pleased with what's released. I can *play the game*.
Some people want the game for multi player purpose only.
Multiplayer is a huge addition which shouldn't keep a good game off the market.

I'm glad I have it in this state, than not having it at all.

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celfious
celfious


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Typo recoverey
posted July 04, 2002 04:01 PM

This comming from someone who dosn't know quality..

Yes, I saw the bug list. When I downloaded the patch!
95% of the fixed bug's never affected me anyway's.

What, is there a new bug list somewhere? It's been a couple of month's now since the patch was released

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celfious
celfious


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posted July 04, 2002 07:28 PM

I'm right and your wrong andi.. Until you understand that you'll just be a sad flamer.

HOMM4 is rightful to be considered as a good game. I'm one who think's it's good.

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Darkspirit
Darkspirit


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aka Zutus
posted July 04, 2002 09:19 PM

Quote:

thats your oppinion, but mine is 3do sux and noone should have bought the game from those idiots, they never cared for any customers just for selling and making money...so you are glad having this crap game, you saw the bug list?


I just found another bug.

When your hero has chaos magic and nobility it says that he becomes a witch king. The description says that they are specialized in death magic and nobility.
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tortoise
tortoise


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Master of Reptiles.
posted July 04, 2002 11:46 PM

Omg Andi if you compare Warcraft III to any other game once more i swear!!! You think blizzard cares anymore about customers then 3do? i'd say they are worse. Do you know why they have bnet? to make us happY? not, That is the single most important reason for blizzards success.  And as far as customer support, there are hacks all around bnet and they haven't done one thing to stop them.  Accounts getting hacked , they just say they can't help you, its only a matter of time until warcraft III gets hacked like all the rest, if you want to play a good game play Age of Wonders 2, doesn't have the graphics, but it still beats everygame that's new in the market today because its A GOOD GAME!@! THAT ISN'T DEPENDANT ON GRAPHICS!!!  I mean I think imo that was a fairly ignorant thing to say comparing 3do and blizzard saying how 3do cares only about money.  Blizzard doesn't give a rats ass! the only people who do care are a few people on the team who are probably underpaid.  Anyways, quit flamin heroes 4.  And you might want to compare games that are even remotely similar... IE not a turn based strategy to a real time strategy duh.  And if you get pissed andi, well sry.  But i'm speaking my mind, and i'm sure alot of other people would agree that your comments aren't very justified.  And i'm a nobody, so who cares if i get flamed. =p

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DarkManiac
DarkManiac


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of Hell
posted July 05, 2002 12:15 AM

I know some companies that care for their customers and have created at least one good game:
Strategy First
Bethesda Softworks

Any others? Suggest
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Big_Blackie
Big_Blackie


Adventuring Hero
Insanity is bliss...
posted July 06, 2002 03:04 AM

Hey, here's a good one:
Ensemble Studios-Age of Empires, AoE2, AoE2: The Conqeurors
Historically correct AND fun!
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DarkManiac
DarkManiac


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of Hell
posted July 06, 2002 12:44 PM

I was asking about the ones that care for their customers.
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arachnid
arachnid


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posted July 06, 2002 02:27 PM

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Omg Andi if you compare Warcraft III to any other game once more i swear!!! You think blizzard cares anymore about customers then 3do? i'd say they are worse. Do you know why they have bnet? to make us happY? not, That is the single most important reason for blizzards success.  And as far as customer support, there are hacks all around bnet and they haven't done one thing to stop them.


em....................... a few quick points
blizzard have never released an unfinished game unlike 3do.
That not only shows that they care more for the customer but more for the game they have created.

Blizzard have also made a place where you can play there games multi player for how much? FOR FREE!!!!!!!!!!!! Theres not many that companies that do this with out charging at least 10 a month. I mean you should be thankful that they care enough to try and help customers with problems and run a huge free multiplayer arena. They are not making a profit running this something i dont think 3do would ever do.

3DO more interested in a quick profit, look at any armymen game or heroes chronicles or all the expansions. What do you notice hardly any changes are made and are just ways to make easy money. Then look at the care and great games and expansions blizzard have made, there really is no contest.
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Henl86
Henl86


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posted July 17, 2002 02:36 PM

I'm a longtime ra2 player, and blizzard is great

I've been a top 25 ra2(red alert 2) and yr(yuri's revenge(expansion to ra2) for a year. I've won the monthly tournament on several occasions.

Now since ra2 is a rts like warstarcraft, let me be the first to say that blizzard has GREAT support. WW(westwood) on the other hand, are scum. They release ra2, lie and avoid bugs for over half a year before they finally patched them, abandon their game less than 6 months after it's released(yr) and let it succumb to cheaters. I was up for #1 again in May, they reset me, took away all my points, because I had been cheated out of a win 8 times(they make a reconnection error and the game dosen't count). Meanwhile, I was the only fair player in the top 50, and I get reset. What irony...

Now there's nick cracking apps, trainers you wouldn't believe, and point pushers are the only one's to ever win the tournament(some no life losers with 10 nicks playing 1000 games a month).

Blizzard however, have kept their servers relatively clean. They released star craft patches 4 years after it's release. People asked for a record game option, years after it's release, they got it. WW's done squat to please their customers.

And 3do, well now it's the middle of july, and still no multi player?? I say we'll never even see it.
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Sir_Stiven
Sir_Stiven


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banned
posted July 17, 2002 02:48 PM

Heroes4 is crap

When i get that new comp im gonna test NWN, GTA3 and WarCraft3...those games looks really kewl. Heroes4 doesnt, Heroes4 is crap. Im right and whoever that disagrees with me are wrong, its as simple as that...tossers

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Lith-Maethor
Lith-Maethor


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paid in Coin and Cleavage
posted July 17, 2002 02:59 PM

not a freaking comment!

Quote:
Hey, here's a good one:
Ensemble Studios-Age of Empires, AoE2, AoE2: The Conqeurors
Historically correct AND fun!


if these games (AoE and the exp to be precice) are historically correct, then I'm the Pope...
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Sir_Stiven
Sir_Stiven


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posted July 17, 2002 03:17 PM

hmmmm that sounded like a comment to me?

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Pure_Chaos
Pure_Chaos


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Known Hero
Destroyer of Morons
posted July 17, 2002 03:37 PM

Some of you people need to learn the art of STFU. Starting with idiots like Andi, who clearly hates HoMM 4, yet continuosly comes to forums to spew his garbage.

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Henl86
Henl86


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posted July 18, 2002 02:25 AM

Yeah ppl having another opinion than you about homm4 must be from hell, I mean contradicting your opinions?? What are they, crazy? I tell you ppl nowadays...
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pepak
pepak


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posted July 18, 2002 04:35 PM

Re:

Quote:
Yes, I saw the bug list. When I downloaded the patch!
95% of the fixed bug's never affected me anyway's.


My point exactly! The (insert a nice word for NWC "programmers", my name, although matching, would insult them) fixed about a thousand absolutely insignificant tiny little invisible bugs nobody ever cared about, and left the ten or more major issues unchanged. In a way I can understand that, fixing a spelling error is usualy easier than adding A.I. to a game or fixing delay loops which make me think the game was probably written in interpretted PHP with animations done through GD library.

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What, is there a new bug list somewhere? It's been a couple of month's now since the patch was released


"Couple of months"??? Damn, I got the game and the patch too late, I need to my games vendor and ISP. I could only buy the game at the end of march, and get the patch at the end of june!

To answer your question, there are quite a few bug lists, about as many as there are H4 players. How about A.I. (I know, it can't be buggy if it isn't even there, but I consider it's nonexistence a bug, too), potions of immortality (their very existence as well as their nice effect against Sea Monsters), army multiplication, stealth experience... (I just listed those which are undeniably bugs and not "features")

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