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Lews_Therin
Lews_Therin


Promising
Famous Hero
posted July 26, 2002 04:32 PM

1. This is the third thread here about "strageties". Maybe you should consider to occasionally visit a dictionary.

2. There is no such thing as a plural apostroph (I think I mentioned this before, but some things just cannot be said often enough). Furthermore, there is no grammatical rule whatsoever that requires an apostroph being placed near the end of every word that ends with an "s".

3. No, Iīm not making fun of anyoneīs English, just trying to be nice and helpful.

4. Kraven, Celfious and Moron, why donīt you just sign up at www.toheroes.com, play a few games with your capitol-first-philosophy, and then report us your experiences here in this thread? Might be more helpful and enlightening than whatīs being exchanged now.
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I_RUELS
I_RUELS


Hired Hero
posted July 26, 2002 07:35 PM

RAndoms SUCK!!  I never play them. I cant have a guaranteeeed win so I wanna play fixed maps instead, its more fair. u guys that play the random maps, its no more than pulling a casino machine and see who gets the betst pull.

I RUELS!! I am big man in toh, listen to me now

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Sir_Elric
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Having a bad hair day.
posted July 26, 2002 07:52 PM
Edited By: Sir_Elric on 26 Jul 2002

ROFLMAO!!!
Geez we got some winners in here tonight LOL!!
Post some more, *cough*, tips there Dar Kraven

Darkraven and I RULES should get a clan going.

Lets hear some clan names.

How about.

The Noobs That Lose Clan
or
Wessux Weel Bad Clan

?
Oh I almost forgot their motto is No Rushing(in the first 4 months) LMAO!

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Hexa
Hexa


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posted July 26, 2002 08:01 PM
Edited By: Hexa on 26 Jul 2002

Quote:
4. Kraven, Celfious and Moron, why donīt you just sign up at www.toheroes.com, play a few games with your capitol-first-philosophy, and then report us your experiences here in this thread? Might be more helpful and enlightening than whatīs being exchanged now.


Hmm play me then .. I can use some wins!@

Edit: and although I'm not "big" on agreeing with Andi and SS (and u should certainly not take his social habbits) but he (Andi) is one of the best Homm players out there...so take his advice and try it online!@
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I_RUELS
I_RUELS


Hired Hero
posted July 26, 2002 08:04 PM

Well when I have made it to legionairs I can start a divisions with him.

but we wont had a acrappy name like u want.

we will be called

The Noobs That Win Clan!!
or
Ussux Eggz Bad Clan MFs

So that u know that when u play us we will be the win!

And I like the idea of capitol. gold will be used to buy the roops that destroy your weak army.e
lets play and u sww that I will be the win!

I am good player, I can beat comp on any level most of the time.

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Romana
Romana


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Thx :D
posted July 26, 2002 08:37 PM

you don't happen to use solymir as a main do you?

Soly Rules!!!
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ironmlh
ironmlh


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posted July 26, 2002 09:12 PM
Edited By: ironmlh on 26 Jul 2002

YEA!

Quote:
WARNING: dont listen to that lol, you will loose every game...coz im a nice guy i will tell the right strategies...

1. do NEVER go capitol first week...try at least to get a good unit going, maybe combined with citadel/castle...as example for castle you got the options to go for monks or cavaliers (needs stables, but if you got stables outside of town you get a free upgrade to champions, and they kick ass.
An option on higher difficulties is building the town hall and market place, rest always must go to creatures, never city hall week1.

best example is his rampart, you want unicorns week1 if any possible, but the minimum is elves and dendros to protect em

inferno: horned demons? what a toss, you go for efreet, thats the crucial inferno unit...2 of em soon and you can do a lot often week1.

if you got the option to build L7 always do that, even if your totally broke...only of of them can do stuff usually you couldnt do without it

3 heroes on a large map? noob...needs no more comment

you have those 3 heroes? hack is your main, all else is bad tossing...

Kraven if you give out tips you should know something about that game you know?


Best advice i ever seen you post Andi!  

If these dam noobs actually played a game with someone other than week1 capitol builders they would realize how foolish and BAD Dars advice is.

Hell, i only play randoms and go for the highest level creature i can build week 1 regardless of town.  The only time i stray from that is if i am trapped and/or playing on 200%.  160% I can still manage to build Hydras and Behemoths week 1, sometimes Angels and Devils, rarely Gold Dragons(requires a very rich map and a 2nd lvl creature pre-built).
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Dear_Morons
Dear_Morons


Disgraceful
Known Hero
posted July 26, 2002 11:17 PM

It's all in your head...when I play multi I will go for creatures on maps and castles I know I can get a lot of resourses early in the game, otherwise I go capitol. I usually win anyway wheather I go creature or not so your still not convincing me anything. Also this "go play multi" crap your trying to pull isnt helping your cause becase I play multi. Maybe when you see true skill from someone who can beat you that doesnt play like you, you might understand.
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bjorn190
bjorn190


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Jebus maker
posted July 27, 2002 11:18 AM

How to play a good random:

Castle:
130%+  upgrade archers day 1 if you get the dwell, then go straight for at least city hall, capitol day 2 week 2 if possible, then get angels and cavaliers week 2. Week 3 you are kickinī arse.

100%- try for angels week 1 if the map is rich, otherwise, use the same strat as on 130%+

Look for conservatories   Upgrade to archies if you have 7 or more angels.


Rampart:
This is the best town in a no rules game. You canīt lose with this baby. castle and unicorns week 1, with 1 free of choice building (town hall, grands, or dorfs)

Dungeon:
The town that tears up the Rules freaks. With no nec, dip, dd and such, your portal of summoning is the greatest weapon against the rules player. The mana vortex and the great heros will also help you conquer his game limiting ways  Build beholders day 1, or upgrade trogs if you start with shakti. DONT LOSE ANY TROGS AT ALL!!!


Tower:
Weird town.. upgrade gremlins day 1 and hope for a fast meeting. The hardest town to play. Get giants as fast as you can and hope for a rich map. If no rules, be sure to build your level 5 guild and cross fingers for fly/dd. Get expert air on a wizard just in case this should happen =)

Fortress:
Build as many dwellings as you can, as fast as you can. Look for dragon fly hives, and get a good might hero. Put serpent flies on your scouts, and make sure you dont lose your gorgons. day 1.. wyverns or lizardmen or serpentflies, whatever you build u canīt go wrong, but take the wyvern if you can.


Inferno:
Hard town to play. Efreet is the power until you get devils.
Build gogs day 1 and then straight to efreet and castle.


Conflux:
Please donīt use this town. Most ppl consider it overpowered and lame. But if you do, get firebirds ASAP, its the only unit youīre going to need for a long time.


Stronghold:
Rocs day 1 if possible, then you can go for behems if you want, possibly ogres. Donīt build cyclops unless you have heaps of crystal. Youīre going to need 20+ cryst for ABs. Good town, especially on maps with lots of topes

Necropolis:
Often banned. If allowed, pick it if opp does or game will be hard. build dreads and liches, upgrade vamps, donīt lose your skels. Get Isra or Vido, or both   Get expert necro ASAP itīs all about the skels and stats.


This is how to play each town on the most used diffs. on 200% or on poor maps, you can try to get capitol asap if you want to, somtimes its a smart move.

Good luck out there,
and have fun!


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2XtremeToTake
2XtremeToTake


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Supreme Hero
posted July 27, 2002 11:53 AM

i just use anyone i can as a main
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Sir_Stiven
Sir_Stiven


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banned
posted July 27, 2002 01:38 PM

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It's all in your head...when I play multi I will go for creatures on maps and castles I know I can get a lot of resourses early in the game, otherwise I go capitol. I usually win anyway wheather I go creature or not so your still not convincing me anything. Also this "go play multi" crap your trying to pull isnt helping your cause becase I play multi. Maybe when you see true skill from someone who can beat you that doesnt play like you, you might understand.

Awwwww...Mr. "I play hotseat with myself" thinks he knows this game..how sweet.

You join an online heroes tourney like TOH and people will eat you alive with that tactic capitol builder. Anyone can talk the talk, now join up and see if you can walk the walk. Or maybe you are alittle afraid for that? figures, you seemed like a chicken from the beginning so...that yellow colour from your avatar suits you nice lol

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Dear_Morons
Dear_Morons


Disgraceful
Known Hero
posted July 28, 2002 12:08 AM

I have and I won every time, thanks for sharing though
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Sir_Stiven
Sir_Stiven


Honorable
Legendary Hero
banned
posted July 28, 2002 12:12 AM

hmmmm..playing online doesnt mean IP game with grandma

You go to zone and have some games there... and youll die so fast u wont even know what struck you...In zone people attack week3 you know, not month 3

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Sir_Elric
Sir_Elric


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Having a bad hair day.
posted July 28, 2002 02:34 AM

Quote:
hmmmm..playing online doesnt mean IP game with grandma


LMAO!
Did I say you had no wit??
I take it back heh heh........
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dharkarax
dharkarax


Hired Hero
posted July 28, 2002 04:29 AM

jeez ppl attacking 3 weeks in the game? I guess SC is not the only game where people rush, not that I didn't know that
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Destro23
Destro23


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Famous Hero
Keeper of GrongGrong
posted August 06, 2002 11:32 AM bonus applied.
Edited By: Hexa on 7 Aug 2002

Man you people, With the exception of a few have some horrible advice..

This month 3 stuff loool wtf is that. I just played an XL with an Underworld map, I still killed my opponent week 4.

Random Tactics I find Useful.

Week 1:

Archers Archers Archers...
Your best bet with most towns is to get a good force of archers and some blockers for them. This will immensly minimize your losses, and keep you moving.

day 1 on any random, your first scout should survey about a 1/4 to 1/2 day radius arund your start point.  After seeing this use 2nd and 3rd heroes to kill everything you see that is blocking your exploration. Send main down road.

Crypts are a great source of income week 1, but don't get too greedy... theres always a 10Vampire crypt waiting when you low on troops.

Week 2:

COnservatories -- Hopefully after scouting conservatories week 1 you have found 1 or 2 that have a "horde of griffons" guarding them. These are easy kills with some lv6 units and a good stack of your level 1. With the proper magic of course you can kill them much easier.  These Horde conservs will give 1 angel.  Also if you've found any "Throngs of griffons" that inside say Lots of royals, and a horde of griffons. your in luck. These are a relatively easy kill that will cost you a few troops with any self respecting hero and a few spells. These will give you 2 angels.

Treasuries, Crypts, Caches, and other banks...

These are for most part also quite easy to deal with week 2, with the exception of naga banks, even a pack of nagas can be certain death if not equiped properly for it.  But these banks should take over week 2 as your main source of income.

Artifacts..

Of course any reasonable battle in your area, or a little ways away for a decent artifact is a great week 2 idea.

Lv7 and Castle.

In almost all towns, if your not able to get that coveted lv7 unit and a castle in the first week, you surely can now. All those banks you just took, should provide ample money and resource for either trade or the build.

Week 3 ....

Upgrades and Capitol..

Capitol is gonna be nessecary early on this week on most random maps, however in some cases.. upgrading some units, or a cheap lv7 upgrade is a great idea.  I find this can be very deceiving although you might seem to be fine for gold, you need to be sure to buy out all your units before week 4 day 7 ends.. as month 2 day 1 is the most common time for plague week.

Large expansion, hunt for utopias, boxs, relics.. if guards can be killed go for it Otherwise I usually plan to return week 4 or sometimes 5 depending on situation and map to clean out these sites.

Week 4, 5, 6 and on..

Take utopias, upgrade all units if not done so already. Take everything you see

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On a side note, be careful when taking boxs with difficult guardians. A hero with no spell book, or improper wisdom level can find himself opening an empty box.

And maybe most important.. don't be scared to lose a few units.. if you can lose 1 unicorn, or even a lv7 for a major benefit early on.. Its prolly a good idea.  But then you attain a suicide record.. like me ;(

anyway thats all for now...


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Edit by Hexa: qp applied ... very informative!@

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Lews_Therin
Lews_Therin


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Famous Hero
posted August 06, 2002 12:09 PM
Edited By: Lews_Therin on 7 Aug 2002

Great post, someone should give Destro his first QP. And considering what other people are rewarded for, the second, third and fourth one, too.
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Destro23
Destro23


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Famous Hero
Keeper of GrongGrong
posted August 07, 2002 07:08 AM

THanks Lews ..

Btw when you coming back for some games anyway??


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Hexa
Hexa


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Legendary Hero
posted October 19, 2002 01:01 AM

Revived!@
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angelito
angelito


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Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
posted December 28, 2004 12:08 PM
Edited By: angelito on 28 Dec 2004

Revived for the fact we have some newcomers who play a "Noob tourney" on random, there are at least some good postings about strategies on random maps.

Reading this thread reminded me of a good old italo western movie....."The Good, The Bad and The Ugly one"...
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