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Heroes Community > Tournament of Honor > Thread: Clan Setups
Thread: Clan Setups
Tc_Fear
Tc_Fear


Famous Hero
posted December 07, 2002 01:01 PM

Clan Setups

some questins bothers me
and I want them explayned ones and for all
If me and archenemy just cant decide  map  (taste difference)
its writen in rules

'An Archenemy philosophy clan can force a clan into a clan war whether the targeted clan leader likes it or not.'

If I force ,oponent choose map or what(if we cant decide)?

1 more
'If a clan fails to finish a clan war, and forefits the clan war, they can lose a land they control '

so player can be skipped, if hes inactive that moment?

and there can be 120 clans(maybe there will be about 40 max)
its a little to mutch I think
couse of angelic and military(someone pls chose military)
I know that ves would chose military , but he cant
5-6 clans each philo I think is enough and fear



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japjer
japjer


Adventuring Hero
posted December 07, 2002 01:40 PM

i think it's more about giving people enough choices for their specialty, also it may be that all random town-clans would be taken too quick with only 5 clans a philo.

also military was my 2nd choice (maybe 3rd)

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Jinxer
Jinxer


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posted December 07, 2002 02:45 PM

If a clan member is inactive then dont start ant clan wars.  Or replace them then start wars....  But if a clan member doesnt pla he forfiets his match which in turn forfits 50% of possible war points won.


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EvilLoynis
EvilLoynis


Famous Hero
The Dark Shadow
posted December 07, 2002 02:59 PM

Military.........Combat?

Do you find it weird that the Military Philosophy of the clans has no clan that has Altar of Combats as there specialities?  I wouldn't mind being in a military clan if it had that special.
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vesuvius
vesuvius

Hero of Order
Honor Above all Else
posted December 07, 2002 10:29 PM
Edited By: vesuvius on 7 Dec 2002

you can force an archenemy to clan war

but map, time limit, setup decisions, if in conflict, I will end up choosing for the war.

A forced archenemy clan war has already been initiated, between wisdom empire vs. outcast brotherhood.   Since they could not agree on map & land, I decided both for them.
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Destro23
Destro23


Promising
Famous Hero
Keeper of GrongGrong
posted December 08, 2002 12:56 PM

In the case of drops from War games..?

If a deadline should arrive and a player has dropped from the game.. What should be done.. (I don't think I have to worry about the dealine yet but I'll check.)

Is this a case of mail the save and have a winner declared? I think its not very good if the whole clan gets a forfeit cause one players opponent drops and cannot be found before deadline.

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vesuvius
vesuvius

Hero of Order
Honor Above all Else
posted December 08, 2002 08:29 PM

someone is forefit

if both sides of a matchup are forefit, then thats considered one strike.

However, if one side forefits ie. drops and never comes back, then the other player gets a pass and moves on.

Examples of these can already be seen on the clan wars.

Disputes 'he said, i said etc..' is a delicate issue, but thats where the clan leaders come in.  If they have the brainpower to figure out a solution for the situation, all the better.  But if they cant reach a decision or are two slow to reach it, then it come to my decision, which will be cold, unbiased, but probably more negative for both clans overall.

The whole point of being a clan leader is to be able to organize, sort things out, and manage your 3(!) players.  Shouldnt be that hard, its not like running a division of 10 players.
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Tc_Fear
Tc_Fear


Famous Hero
posted December 09, 2002 12:26 PM

Quote:
Military.........Combat?

Do you find it weird that the Military Philosophy of the clans has no clan that has Altar of Combats as there specialities? I wouldn't mind being in a military clan if it had that special


its not  weird .and yes it has no good specialty

Quote:
i think it's more about giving people enough choices for their specialty, also it may be that all random town-clans would be taken too quick with only 5 clans a philo.

well if there will be 12 metalurgy clans
and 12 others
It wouldnt be very interesting I think
metalurgy-I think starting art is to good,big advantage

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Tc_Fear
Tc_Fear


Famous Hero
posted December 13, 2002 07:31 AM

what now?
Basu & Kracx cant play.
becouse of time difference and work.
Kracx working ,basu can play ,basu work ,kracx can
deadline comes

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vesuvius
vesuvius

Hero of Order
Honor Above all Else
posted December 14, 2002 08:33 AM

its called leadership

youre a leader, you decide. I dont interfere.   I only make decisions when the deadline has passed.
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Destro23
Destro23


Promising
Famous Hero
Keeper of GrongGrong
posted December 14, 2002 11:55 AM

In my experience from running clans ect.. previously in H3 the best way to decide situations, where no game has been played, started or anything is to basically give the benefit of the doubt to the losing clan..

ie one clan has 2wins, the other has 1win.. make it more interesting by making it 2 vs 2 in the 2nd round, I also find this helps your reputation with other clan leaders. They see you as a fair and honorable leader and will likely want to war with you again.

And trust me on one thing In the months to come toh reputation will be an important factor in getting games.

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Jinxer
Jinxer


Legendary Hero
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posted December 14, 2002 08:52 PM

I am not sure I unerstand your idea Destro.... You suggesting that the clan thar is winning forfiets his match?  Seems silly to have our strongest player volunteer to step down?

I say both of them forget about sleep one night =)
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Targan
Targan


Known Hero
posted December 14, 2002 09:30 PM

I say both of them forget about sleep one night =)


Jinxer

the problem is with time difference of 12 hours that night is not on same time

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Destro23
Destro23


Promising
Famous Hero
Keeper of GrongGrong
posted December 15, 2002 01:00 PM

hehe no Jinxer..

I was not talking about your clan per say.. in fact I don't know who the players are, how good they are or anything like that..

I just meant that "I" liked other leaders and myself, to give the small advantage of a pass to the Losing clan.. IF no game has been started.. Or else a double forfeit.. but that is boring

I guess its just cause I;d rather have a good fun war.. then a quick easy win.. you?

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Jinxer
Jinxer


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posted December 15, 2002 03:13 PM
Edited By: Jinxer on 15 Dec 2002

Well I agree I dont like a war to end in forfiet either.   But there are lots of other solutions.  FOr example there are 2 other players in waiting on one of the teams, so maybe one of the other players can accomadate playing times better.  So rotate the players and if it ends up coming down to the same 2 players in later rounds then ....well... we can cross that bridge then...but there are 2 other players that might beable to finish the war and not make it an issue.  Just an idea.

@ Targan...  ABout the No sleep idea. I realize they are 12 hours difference.  SO one night play while the other should be sleeping then wait 2 nights and play when the other shouldve been sleeping etc.  Might take 3-4 sitting to chip away at the game, but with the password protect feature saves arent a problem anymore.


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Destro23
Destro23


Promising
Famous Hero
Keeper of GrongGrong
posted December 15, 2002 04:07 PM

Again for the record..

I was speaking generally.. and not about any particular situation or player

And my original statement was mainly geared at a rd1 clan war that looks like this.
1    2
A vs B (win)
C(win) vs D
E vs F (win)
G vs H (no game started)

So why not give G the pass not the win.. to allow for a more balanced # in the 2nd round

I know my ideas on this sort of thing varry from others But its just my way of looking at it.

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Tc_Fear
Tc_Fear


Famous Hero
posted December 15, 2002 04:23 PM


I  agree with u destro becouse its my clans situacion
with  both sides discuss ofcourse
but..
some poeps can do so  just for waste time(maybe cant play that time-hardly working or something) or kicking stronger oponents.

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bobntamr1
bobntamr1


Known Hero
non dictionary ownen hero
posted December 18, 2002 07:35 PM

my 2 cents...

can we use something like a pinch hitter in these cases?
Could I have played Basu or jinxer and then later on, if I or jinxer lose they meet like on their days off?

Just a idea
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