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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: Week 2 - Medusa Stores
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chubby051
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posted June 08, 2003 03:09 PM bonus applied.

Week 2 - Medusa Stores

Everybody knows that Medusa Stores are great income for week 2 and if your lucky, maybe even week 1 with some castles.

I am working on a tactics page with pics, explainations, etc...  But admittingly not being a great player, I need some help.  This will be one of many similar threads to come.

Back to the stores:

With Rampart it is pretty easy to do.  Grands, Uni's, Main stack of Cents and 1 stacks of cent blockers.  Where I need a little help is taking them with the other castles week 2.  Granted the smaller stores are not that big of a deal, but when it comes to the 8 and/or 10 stack stores, what do you do with what castle?

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AndiAngelsla...
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posted June 08, 2003 03:33 PM
Edited By: Hexa on 8 Jun 2003

Well from my experience never split your big hitters in medusa stores, coz if one of em gets stoned the rest gets beaten up bad - so you need a stack that can take out a medusa stack without retaliation.
On randoms i often stay far away from the stores week2, it just isnt worth it coz the gold you get isnt much - only if you need the sulfur bad or if you have no other option to get gold.

Sometimes your last hope is to make the medusas run outa shots, you cant set a general pattern here but just keep that option in mind.
Than theres checking the stores, but you cant see if its 20, 30 or 40 medusas. Only if 16+4 Queens or full house (50, which shows as horde or pack queens).
I can just tell you stay away from them week2 if possible, 20 or 40 medusas thats a [deleted] big difference

Dont go in if you dont have a stack that can take out 8 medusas with 1 blow, you were warned
Oh btw, with ramparts its easy, yes Ramp has a easy start but in the endgame they suck...thats why noobs like stiven only play them and if they are forced to take something else they cant coz of that damn firewall

Edit by Hexa: last time u are told not to use words that are forbidden here!@

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chubby051
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posted June 08, 2003 04:46 PM

I guess maybe it would be better to ask, when do you take the stores and with what critters

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Kittenangel
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posted June 10, 2003 09:38 PM

Awsome thread Chubby
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chubby051
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posted June 11, 2003 06:19 AM
Edited By: Kuma on 11 Jun 2003

LMFAO

Requests for a mod:

1.  Delete everypost that is completely off topic. (please leave andi's first post, was exactly the type of think i was hoping for)

2.  Remove my qp (EDIT: and than some things u dun wanna write when ur serious about this topic not going on the off-topic-train)

3.  Delete this post when ever you delete the rest please. lol.

Thx


Edit: Done so as requested, QP stays, so does the warning for Andi: ur opinions as a player are well-respected, f-words are i.m.o. not needed for most people to read and appreciate ur comments.

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AndiAngelsla...
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posted June 11, 2003 08:07 PM

okok i stop saying the word with f than, i just didnt know you guys would be so childish..."last warning" coz of that, shhhh yeah that happens if hexa doesnt like you.


- Castle: your main disadvantage here is that pikes are only speed 4, you cant use them as single speed blockers. Well use any other unit that is speed 6 or more, like some gargs/harpies from a scout or whatever, some griffins.
NO WAY ever plan to block the dusas and use your marksmen, they will move towards them and you are dead.
Which means theres only 1 chance with castle to take the stores, and that is if you built cavaliers week 1.
Overall a very bad town for week 2 medusa stores.

- Rampart: was alrdy said how to do it, unis and cents are perfect, be careful with elves thou moraling medusas can easy shot em down. You will need to go for the stack that is closest to your elves with your tank stacks, and than you hope that none of the blocked medusas shoot at the elves.

- Tower: not so bad at all, nagas kill everything good and your grems should kill 1 whole stack too. Gargs, perfect blockers of course.
But better have a haste for your nagas rdy, or you may be too slow in the end.

- Fortress: stay away from the stores, wyverns are weak, gnolls are slow and much more you dont have early often.
If the stores are at swamp and you have gorgons, than you can go for them maybe.
Overall your critters are too slow and your L6 too weak, not recommended.
If you still want to try a store on swamp, upgrading your gnolls might be good - speed 6 and they hit hard, you can hope to take 1 stack of medusas out fast.

- Stronghold: also not recommended, Behemoths can get into speed troubles and you dont want to loose your Rocs.
Also stronghold hardly needs the money bad, and sulfur you dont need anyway.
If you wanna try it, you need a good goblin force thats for sure. Dont ever split your behemoths, single stacks of em, some of yours get stoned ----> the lonely Behemoth dies.

- Inferno: Good town to do it if you have pit fiends available, efreets and pits hit hard and fast. a large stack of imps helps of course, but you really need at least 4 efreets and 7 pits to try it, or else 40 medusas will RIP you. get a stack of some hellhounds for a blocker that lasts a bit longer than a single imp.

- Necro: Vamp lords can do everything, enuf said. Without them, well you have haste and a bunch of skels you also can do it, but you dont have any fast hometown blockers, so you will need luck with your tavern heroes, than you can go for it. Lichs, well same as for marksmen, i dont recommend at all to take them into a store.

- Dungeon: Trog power of course, harpy blockers, and a strong mino force will beat 40 medusas up.
If you went for manticores you can get into troubles coz they dont deal enuf damage and might get stoned.
Haste for the trogs is your best medusa store friend with dungeon of course.


In general, the most imortant thing for such a store is a haste spell for mostly your L1 units and at least 1 really big damage dealer stack.
Dont go in if you dont have that, even with it it can be a gamble week 2.



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jb239
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posted June 12, 2003 02:26 AM

Bahhh Medusa Stores are easy

Ask anyone who has played me how easy they are for me..

Some of you older players may get the irony in that statement.

As for my strategy on taking them.. Never take them with 1 stack of lv 7 creatures..always split them up
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Kuma
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posted June 21, 2003 12:21 AM
Edited By: Kuma on 19 Jul 2003

@ Top again.  Useful info.
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Aculias
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posted June 27, 2003 01:18 AM

Yes those tactics work but i got a few questions,
why not just have a slot 1 one gargoyls instead of 1-2-1-2.
Also is there a way to get out of trouble if the medusas get morale or stone the Nagas?

Also you can do that day 8 with alot of castle like Rampart with 5 cents, 6 unis & sone grand elves.

Imps, gogs & Sultans.

3 angels alone can do it or if you got champs thats also possible with Pikes. Marks & Cavaliers if thier stationed tight.

with shatki you can do it with doungeon but a little tougher since eyes are not that tough in the beggining.

Easy with strong hold.

Fortress can be done but a little tougher since you dont have a strong shooter & slow troops, & if you want to do it then you need cash for alot of those examples even with Xarciks.

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Aculias
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posted June 28, 2003 05:41 AM

Well I am curious how you can get all that gold .
Angelito I outta LOL.
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Pollo2002
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posted July 19, 2003 09:23 AM

I normally don't agree with xarfax, but this was a very good post, i have to agree with aculias, your fortress strategy seems very hard to do on 160at least on randoms

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LordLazy
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posted December 07, 2004 11:56 AM
Edited By: LordLazy on 7 Dec 2004

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Xarfax: any chance you still have the pics for your tower strategy?
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maretti
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posted May 18, 2005 01:23 PM

Why waste those poor gargoyles?

Why not split the naga queens in 5 groops and place the master gremlins in the middle?

That way u wont lose anything at all.

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maretti
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posted May 18, 2005 01:36 PM

Using the gargoyle tactic u could actually find urself in deep trouble if one of the stacks to the left gets moral or if ur naga queens get stoned.

If u split the naga queens in 5 u can use ur master gremlins to take out any medusa stack which gets moral or stones the naga queen blocking it.

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patriot_pulsar
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posted May 19, 2005 02:46 AM

as i was told in other thread cant remember where never use gargolies as fooders
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tigris
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posted May 24, 2005 07:20 AM

maretti is right

After the chat about this on the zone i still was in doubt if one naga queen can stand attacks from 10 dusas, and last long enough for the gremlins to finish it.So i tested it and it works just fine.
Nice work Maretti :up:
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dimis
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posted May 25, 2005 05:06 PM

Medusa Stores - Minimum / Maximum number per stack

Hello,
I just wanted to ask you something about the maximum number of medusas per stack. Is it only 10 after the upgrade of the Heroes version someone owns or 12 per stack occurs so rarely as 2 per stack?

> I tried to generate a map where a store could consist of stacks of 12 but unfortunately, no matter how hard I tried (I must have generated about 50-60 Stores) I did not encounter even a single store having stacks of 2 or stacks of 12. I am definately sure though, that I have encountered those situations in the past. It's only a shame that I didn't keep a copy so that I can prove my sayings.

? Anyone having any clues?

Regards,
Dimis

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angelito
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posted May 25, 2005 05:20 PM

LoL...that is, because these settings are NOT possible..

You can only find stacks of 4, of 6, of 8 or of 10....nothing else..
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dimis
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posted May 25, 2005 05:30 PM

Quote:
LoL...that is, because these settings are NOT possible..

You can only find stacks of 4, of 6, of 8 or of 10....nothing else..


ok,
you mean this is not possible after the upgrade of someone's version or in any case? Luckily, I was not alone when I encountered a store of 12 ... so I know that 've not gone mad yet!

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lkru33
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posted May 25, 2005 05:30 PM
Edited By: lkru33 on 25 May 2005

On a positive note: you are correct in saying that stacks of 2 happen as often as stacks of 12  
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