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Tc_Fear
Famous Hero
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posted August 25, 2003 10:20 AM |
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so H4 or H3?
I think that poeple who plays those army maps like: lisp ,utb are confused between h4 and h3.those army maps are made tobe simulary to H3.nonsense imo removeing other stuff like make game last longer to have more creatures(IP)
H4 is a heroes game  .And maps wich reflects author wishes I think is like- superheroes,deathvalley,WOW and others that kind of stile.
its funny then poeple participate for H4 TOH ,but plays h3 maps.
and thats why cant play at equal conditions.And I donot have competition real heroes of might & magic IV maps !
I like army maps too.I play h3
I also like heroes maps .I play h4
TC
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Arangar
Famous Hero
Weak ranger - lost viking
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posted August 25, 2003 11:33 AM |
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Strange then, that the maps you play in h4 are mostly remade h3 maps?
or am I wrong... ?
And again, hah, so there are no rules in h3 toh? No artifacts that cannot be used? Spells that are not allowed?
Dont make us laugh Tc_fear, what you are saying is ridiculous. Lost too many games lately? 
Arangar
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valkyrica
Supreme Hero
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posted August 25, 2003 12:27 PM |
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Funny, he didn't mention circle, which is a hero map 
everyone with the maps he likes, it's kinda stupid to force someone to play a map they don;t like, they won't enjoy the game, which is the whole point to playing this game ...
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haile73
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted August 25, 2003 12:41 PM |
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hmmm, isn't DD an army map too?
H3 an army game?
strange logic...
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insatiable
Supreme Hero
Ultimate N00bidity
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posted August 25, 2003 12:52 PM |
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H4 is about heroes..regardless of maps.
just in some more, in other less.
i wish there was more maps of 'less' category..
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the_teacher
Supreme Hero
Talk to the hand!
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posted August 25, 2003 01:23 PM |
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tc_whatever
the big dilema is where to finish the games, at h3 or h4 ?
i guess people already learned you, so i could bet you search a new game where you'll have the excuse "not knowing " the rules and ethics .
IMHO is better to jugde yourself first then look into neighbour's yard.
Advice : try ,at least , to make an effort to prove we are all wrong about you (here, i'm pushing it beyond the limits of reality, i must admit, but people are allowed to hope)
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Arangar
Famous Hero
Weak ranger - lost viking
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posted August 25, 2003 03:47 PM |
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Insatiable
You must make those maps
We are waiting our beast of toh! I was once an army builder, maybe I can still be saved from this hero madness!
Arangar
weak weak ranger
lost viking
- a hint of madness?
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Aculias
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
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posted August 25, 2003 11:29 PM |
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Strange enough especially seeing Tc_Fear in the heroes 3 zone wanting a game also 
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Tc_Fear
Famous Hero
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posted August 28, 2003 09:22 AM |
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lol
dont be so serious.
my opinion.
that was regarding to azures replay in other topic
All that means I donot like his offers 
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Aculias
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
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posted August 28, 2003 01:37 PM |
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So you want me to joke around Fear ?
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Prince_Legolas
Bad-mannered
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posted August 30, 2003 11:57 AM |
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Quote:
I think that poeple who plays those army maps like: lisp ,utb are confused between h4 and h3.those army maps are made tobe simulary to H3.nonsense imo removeing other stuff like make game last longer to have more creatures(IP)
H4 is a heroes game .And maps wich reflects author wishes I think is like- superheroes,deathvalley,WOW and others that kind of stile.
its funny then poeple participate for H4 TOH ,but plays h3 maps.
and thats why cant play at equal conditions.And I donot have competition real heroes of might & magic IV maps !
I like army maps too.I play h3
I also like heroes maps .I play h4
TC
I think maps like Superheroes.Deathvalley and other are not for homm 4 you will be playing not heroes 4 on those maps i think those maps just dont have idea what is heroes 4, i played Superheroes myself and Deathvalley few times but now i know i did mistake it wasnt fun to play on those maps at list i was always thinking why i dont feel heroes 4 on those maps but also i think Dog Days isn't the example of heroes 4, Circle of Life is good map not 100% feeling of heroes 4 but at list better when Superheroes,Deathvalley or Dog Days in my opinion.I think on good maps with 100% feeling of heroés 4 should be restriction to potion of immortality, some artefacts,necro, and other things what make some heroes become owerpowered+ maps should not be in style of heroes 3 i agree at the end it should be tactical combat not the big amount of creatures vs big amount of creatures and boring procedure but also not the few amount of creature so that should balance map.
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dEth8
Promising
Known Hero
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posted August 30, 2003 01:33 PM |
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HoMM IV is larger then one persons preferences
Heroes4 has much versatility. Heroes4 is heroes4 is heroes4. A map can be made to play with perspective as to however the map maker would like the game to "flow" for his/her creation.
It is one very beautiful thing, the ability to choose how you design the game to be played. One person likes things one way and another person differently. They both can create the types of maps they like and hopefully find friends who enjoy that same type of play or a variety so that the get games they like.
In the future we hopefully will have this same versatility. People who whine about this type of play or that only show their own limitations (lazy or just otherwise mentally incapable) or lack of inginuity to create a map with the style of play they would like to see being played.
One thing for me that gets very ooold around here and it seems to me it is in many other games/communities as well is the percentage of player population that takes to avoiding whatever aspect of the game they particularly get crushed by and then want to avoid that pain for themselves or others by ruling it out or whining alot to coerce the rest of the playing population to believe the same way they do. If they would take responsibility for controlling their own destiny, they could simply make a map/modified aspect of game they think is best and if people do like it then it will be played the most to their utter satisfaction, and if not they can still continue to enjoy things the way they like with their own specialized contingencies.
We can all choose how we would like our future to be with a fairly large amount of contol and certainty. Thus, for me, I would like to see people appreciating it and utilizing it rather then forfeiting their power.
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insatiable
Supreme Hero
Ultimate N00bidity
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posted August 30, 2003 02:52 PM |
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well said deth
as for maps..its remarkable that in such a small and friendly community like ToH4..rules of commerce-distribution and advertising still apply!-with zud as the ultimate 'legalazation filter': "always pick the ones with the zud stamp"
unfortunately, many good maps around collect dust..while some others(good maybe but too limited compared to game and mapeditor richness) are in front line..
..lack of h4 random generator or lack of many maps..are the hypocrits excuses, to sit and play forever their 'winning' maps..
..i agree not many good maps around..but even if 1.000.000..wouldnt change much
ppl need 'legal', approved things in their lives..
look at deep kick and coldhearted..2 of best MP maps ever made, even with their faults..nobody plays..
and its not a matter of taste..cause most dont even try! or try once-lose and run to mothers belly
you are suck on this! and you dont even know it..thats the worse
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Prince_Legolas
Bad-mannered
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posted August 31, 2003 10:55 AM |
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Heroes4 has much versatility. Heroes4 is heroes4 is heroes4. A map can be made to play with perspective as to however the map maker would like the game to "flow" for his/her creation.
It is one very beautiful thing, the ability to choose how you design the game to be played. One person likes things one way and another person differently. They both can create the types of maps they like and hopefully find friends who enjoy that same type of play or a variety so that the get games they like.
In the future we hopefully will have this same versatility. People who whine about this type of play or that only show their own limitations (lazy or just otherwise mentally incapable) or lack of inginuity to create a map with the style of play they would like to see being played.
One thing for me that gets very ooold around here and it seems to me it is in many other games/communities as well is the percentage of player population that takes to avoiding whatever aspect of the game they particularly get crushed by and then want to avoid that pain for themselves or others by ruling it out or whining alot to coerce the rest of the playing population to believe the same way they do. If they would take responsibility for controlling their own destiny, they could simply make a map/modified aspect of game they think is best and if people do like it then it will be played the most to their utter satisfaction, and if not they can still continue to enjoy things the way they like with their own specialized contingencies.
We can all choose how we would like our future to be with a fairly large amount of contol and certainty. Thus, for me, I would like to see people appreciating it and utilizing it rather then forfeiting their power.
I Disagree with you deth because barbarians also have friends but they still barbarians and if think like you think everyone can make maps types he likes also those who even not played in heroes 4 and dont know it is strategy can make maps and enjoy them but here is coming question will expirienced players play on map created by not expirienced player? Answer is in mostly ways no. Why no? Because it will be boring for them.So here come another thing (you are lazy or just otherwise mentally incapable understand that ) And it will be not the lack of inginuity to create map. For expirienced players it will be just boring because they already know what is strategy and what is fun and they follow that way of strategy and fun not the way of boredom.
It depens what kinda people do like it if those people you talking about are not expirienced they will choose boring maps and will be played the most to they utter satisfaction+ they will think they expirienced players and already know everything and speacking of expirienced players will be nonsence for them because they cannot see further they nouse.
Sure we all can choose our future but be aware what kinda future you choose!It is not threat it is just advise in hope you will hear it.
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