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posted March 05, 2005 03:55 AM |
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You are now witnessing the demise of American major TV network news
As I was browsing the Internet media news sites today, I came across these statistics on DrudgeReport.com
I was surprised to see the huge gap between FoxNews and the rest of the cable news stations and their shows. Just wanted to share this with you.
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FLASH: CABLE NEWS RACE
THU, MARCH 3, 2005
FNC O'REILLY 2,429,000 [VIEWERS]
FNC HANNITY/COLMES 1,576,000
FNC GRETA 1,364,000
FNC SHEP SMITH 1,316,000
CNN LARRY KING 1,265,000
CNN MARTHA SPECIAL 893,000
CNN ZAHN 688,000
CNNHN NANCY GRACE 540,000
CNN COOPER 537,000
MSNBC HARDBALL 385,000
MSNBC OLBERMANN 269,000
E! MICHAEL JACKSON 237,000
MSNBC SCARBROUGH 216,000
courtesy of DrudgeReport.com
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Dingo
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posted March 05, 2005 03:57 AM |
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Doesn't seem like that many people watch the news.
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Shiva
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posted March 05, 2005 04:52 AM |
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Seem to be missing the major networks. I figure if people
depend on O'Reilly to tell them whats happening in the
world, they are just playing up to the world's stereotype
about the typical American...excuse me Consis, I mean no
offense.
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Consis
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posted March 05, 2005 06:14 AM |
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Freedom of the Press
Speaking of news, I think it's important to remain objective when considering the importance of news and other media outlets. I agree with Khayman's recent show of declining interest in broadcast news programs.
I recall a thread I made a while ago talking about Howard Dean running for president. In that thread Wolfman asked me a very good question. He wanted to know where I was getting my information from. This is exactly the kind of question that is directly related to this very subject.
I watch the news but I don't stop there. I also read local/state/federal newspaper articles. I also check the web for popular "blog" reports. I also talk to people directly. Now don't take me for a person who digs for microfish because I have neither the time nor the inclination to perform such time-consuming work. Another outlet of information that many people get updates from are magazines. I personally am very much against holding magazine articles half as accountable as a local newspaper. The point to all this is that Khayman's observation is part of a broad spectrum of reader analysis. Well at least that's the way I approach it. I don't speak for anyone else. I feel that a man or woman can gain a more well-informed opinion if utilizing all of the avenues available. One shouldn't simply watch the news or read the newspapers. One might find he/she is reading a human error in one outlet while three others are printing the real deal. I think Khayman's observation is simply a reflection of the latest impact of the internet and other new communicative mediums that have recently come in existance through an ever evolving tecnologically changing world.
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posted March 08, 2005 08:09 PM |
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To hell with all of them.
Media no longer serves us when we can come home and merely tune into a given channel because we know it is designed to make us feel good about our already preconceived notions. It's one of the things that makes this country appear schizophrenic to itself. And pitting hyperbolically opposed demagogues against one another does not serve to establish "objectivity" by a given "news" source, it only heightens the schizophrenia; especially when only one of the aforementioned demagogues has control over the microphone.
Want to know what's really going on with precious little spin? Watch Jim Lehrer News Hour, and don't miss a single episode of the documentary series "Frontline." Read everything written by Fareed Zakaria, David Brooks, and anyone else you can find that speaks honestly and intelligently to both sides of every issue, even and especially if you tend to disagree with them. If you still disagree with them after careful analysis and honest reflection, then your job is done.
But mostly, look for information sources, not other peoples' opinions of the information sources. Want to know what's really going on with NO spin? Watch C-SPAN, constantly. Listen to it in your sleep. Get the statements from embassadors and representatives straight from the source; hear broadly chosen expert panels analyse the bone-crunching issues of the day. Let the geniuses in the beltway and surrounding areas speak for themselves, and watch what they're doing, very carefully. They're the ones you voted into office, and they're supposed to be representing you.
The media represents nothing but themselves anymore.
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posted March 08, 2005 09:10 PM |
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Watch C-SPAN, constantly.
As a non-American, I've been wondering for quite some time now: What exactly is C-SPAN?
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posted March 08, 2005 09:16 PM |
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It's a series of television channels (I think there are three now) that just go around from event to event in Washington D.C., set up cameras, and just let them run, airing the event. No commentary except the event itself.
They cover everything from government addresses by foreign dignitaries, to the House and Senate floor debates and votes on bills, bipartisan expert panel discussions on the most pressing concerns of the day, house and senate select committee hearings, briefings, confirmations, and on and on...
Basically everything that isn't classified.
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Consis
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posted March 08, 2005 11:07 PM |
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Edited By: Consis on 8 Mar 2005
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C-SPAN - Addict
I'm a CSPAN 'junky'. I'm especially addicted to weekend British parliament sessions. I absolutely love watching how different they proceed. I enjoy the openness of the house and speakers. People can belt out uproars of disagreement and applaud with here-heres when they agree. It's not like that at all here in the U.S. It all reminds me of when Reagan addressed the Canadian parliament. I was shocked when I first saw how someone yelled out in disagreement with his speech. I'd never heard of anyone ever interrupting the president in the middle of a speech. I thought to myself, "Can he do that?" Then I learned that it was common practice among United Kingdom affiliate nationalities. He ignored it and then Reagan said: "Is there an echo in here?" Deep down I felt extremely embarassed with our cocky arrogant American politicians. It made me feel like our leaders get to speak without having to listen to the public. It's one of the things I've come to respect about British law-making and practices. It seems they are more open and less arrogant to the common good of working people.....all in my opinion of course.
I truly wish Reagan had tried to make some effort to respect the foreign customs when visiting their country. Instead he acted like he was above being interrupted. I didn't like it at all.
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Shiva
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posted March 09, 2005 02:13 PM |
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And that goes hand in hand with how carefully
choreographed all of Bush's meetings, by
invitation only, no spontanaity. Its a show,
a media event, but definitely not a press
conference where anything relevant is asked.
It worked for Reagan also. I think they don't
trust their fearless leaders to have any ability
to answer anything intelligently in the moment.
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Peacemaker
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posted March 09, 2005 05:24 PM |
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I'm a CSPAN 'junky'.
Right on, Consis.
I love watching British Parliament too! Tony Blair is so amazing to watch. He handles the almost constant jeering so well. With his obvious brilliance and wit, it's frightening to think of him in comparison to Bush.
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Consis
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posted March 09, 2005 11:00 PM |
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Edited By: Consis on 9 Mar 2005
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So True
I couldn't agree with you more Peacemaker. I enjoy his deliveries especially. But also I am finding much of British top debating personalities as having a great deal of intellectual wit. It was not but the other day I was watching the British debate over our own American 04 election. I was very impressed with how much they knew.
It's all sort of like the old phrase goes when in press conference-type settings:
"I do so relish these times of peril"....someone once said. They enjoy the challenge, accept the responsibility of their position, and revel in it's turmoil. It's quite adventurous! I think it shows them as having more strength than our own president whom only wants to speak but not listen.
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