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Heroes Community > Heroes 7+ Altar of Wishes > Thread: HoMM6: what HC wants to see
Thread: HoMM6: what HC wants to see This thread is 17 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 · «PREV / NEXT»
Cepheus
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posted April 29, 2008 05:53 PM

I dunno, I don't think the poll is ridiculous at all.  Perhaps though, GM, you could change the 1-44 thing to 1-10+, so that one can rate from 1-44 if they like, but need only choose their top ten if they so prefer.
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Gnoll_Mage
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posted April 29, 2008 05:58 PM
Edited by Gnoll_Mage at 18:02, 29 Apr 2008.

Done. Now a scale of 1 to X, X being any number you choose. Is that what you wanted Ceph?
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Warmonger
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posted April 29, 2008 06:03 PM

As long as it shows us exactly what is demanded.

Now, where can we check the results?

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Gnoll_Mage
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posted April 29, 2008 06:03 PM
Edited by Gnoll_Mage at 18:36, 29 Apr 2008.

Rating towns is now easier - no need to order them, just use your own marking system (you are not restricted to one town per number). Cepheus, Daystar, JoonasTo, emilsn, you are welcome to revote, just post here if you want to.

Sorry for the trouble.
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Cepheus
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posted April 29, 2008 06:04 PM

Yeah, that's more or less what I was talking about.  Nice one GM
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Gnoll_Mage
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posted April 29, 2008 06:18 PM
Edited by Gnoll_Mage at 18:41, 29 Apr 2008.

No problem. Am I taking that as "no, I don't want to revote"?
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posted April 29, 2008 06:22 PM
Edited by Gnoll_Mage at 18:46, 29 Apr 2008.

Quote:
Too...Many...Elve's.Seriously, 2 elf faction's were enough.And naga...I don't know...


Water elves have been hinted at IIRC.

Results will be left until the end, so as not to influence you. However I will say that, after 6 votes, the current number of towns in HC's HoMM6 is 10.
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alcibiades
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posted April 29, 2008 07:36 PM

New voting system is much better.

Suppose system normalizes to max score by itself, right?
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JoonasTo
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posted April 29, 2008 08:47 PM

I'm happy with what I voted earlier.
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Cepheus
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posted April 29, 2008 09:23 PM

Quote:
Water elves have been hinted at IIRC.


Yes, that's right:

http://www.celestialheavens.com/viewpage.php?id=655

"I spent a lot of time arguing with Erwan about including the elf pirates, so they're a particular favourite."
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mamgaeater
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posted April 29, 2008 09:47 PM
Edited by mamgaeater at 21:50, 29 Apr 2008.

Oh darn i think i voted X on some of the options...
can i revote?
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SwampLord
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posted April 29, 2008 10:02 PM

2 Elven factions???

Please, no. Get Fortress (swamp) or Nagas back in there, dammit!
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Daystar
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posted April 29, 2008 10:30 PM
Edited by Daystar at 23:28, 29 Apr 2008.

I'll revote:

Revoted!
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Gnoll_Mage
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posted April 29, 2008 11:11 PM
Edited by Gnoll_Mage at 23:19, 29 Apr 2008.

@Alc - I'm not sure what to do here, atm scores will be scaled so that all user's averages are equal - unless you have a better idea...

@Daystar - I can't submit for you, you'll have to do it again I'm afraid.
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Gnoll_Mage
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posted April 29, 2008 11:16 PM
Edited by Gnoll_Mage at 23:20, 29 Apr 2008.

@Mamga - you can vote again.

@Lexxan - all your votes should be numerical, you need to revote.

"X" is not an option! Sorry that obviously isn't clear.
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alcibiades
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posted April 29, 2008 11:21 PM
Edited by alcibiades at 23:22, 29 Apr 2008.

Quote:
@Alc: I'm not sure what to do here, atm scores will be scaled so that all user's averages are equal - unless you have a better idea...


Well, from a Mathematical point of view, as I see it, it makes most sense to normalize scores to max score. For instance, Daystar ranke between 1 and 9, which means a faction receiving 9 from him get's +1, whereas a faction that get's only 1 get's +0.11.

One could also make a floor - hence, since 1 is minimum, we might subtract one from the rating, so that:

SCORE = (RATING - 1)/(MAX - 1)

I.e. in above case, a faction scoring 1 will add 0, one scoring 9 will add 1, and one scoring 4 will add 3/8 = 0.375.

Finally results should be calculated as average score: SUM(SCORES) / #(PARTICIPANTS).

That's just my bet - however, such a procedure might cause artifacts: Some people don't understand the meaning of distributing ratings evenly - they might give something they REALLY like a score of 100, and then rate all the rest between, say, 1 and 10. This will cause the normalization to be 99, which means that basically all factions get effective ratings around 0 and 1 on a 10-point scale.

Still, I think the normalization method makes most sense mathematically.
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Lexxan
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posted April 29, 2008 11:22 PM

I gave my top 20

I want 12 factions

these:

Humans (+ angels, but ithout griffins)
Undead (typical line-up)
High-Elves (typical line-up)
Dark-Elves (a cross between h3 and h5 Dungeon towns)
Demons (Similar to H5, but with some changes in level)
Wizards (Similar to h5, Only changes are Halfling/Gremlin and Rakshasa/Sphinx)
Half-Elves (let me design this one )
Lizardmen (Lizards, but also Gnolls, Gremlins and Harpies)
Orcs (Like H5 Stronghold)
Dwarves (Similar to h5, but with dominat Scandinavian influences)
Insectoids (An Idea of Xerox, that I really like. Must have Mantis, Waspworth and Dragonfly)
Faceless (Like Baklava designed them)

These are nice but are not in my fav list:

Dragon Knights, Gnomes and Inventors.
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Gnoll_Mage
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posted April 29, 2008 11:25 PM

Could you please vote for all factions, otherwise the system might not work well? Thanks.
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Gnoll_Mage
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posted April 29, 2008 11:33 PM
Edited by Gnoll_Mage at 23:41, 29 Apr 2008.

@Alc - maybe we need to have a discussion on that later on. I sat here earlier for some time wondering how to do it and came up with no satisfactory answer.

12 votes!!! Thanks all. Number of towns still stands at 10.
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Daystar
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posted April 29, 2008 11:42 PM

'ow long will ze poll be open?
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