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Heroes Community > Heroes 4 - Lands of Axeoth > Thread: Observations
Thread: Observations
Cat
Cat


Honorable
Supreme Hero
Gonna Get Dirrty...
posted March 29, 2002 06:01 PM

Observations

Hmm... HoMM4.. well, I bought it and started playing it... and I've noticed that 3do are being lazy!!

1) 3/4 of the Characters are based on my friends from 3do community, with biogs they wrote themselves

2) The soundtrack is Massive Attack's 'Mezzanine', remixed.

3) The venom spawn looks like they've cut random bits out of magazines and stuck them together

4) The devil has somehow turned into captain hook

However, I am pleased to observe that there is a necromancer after my own heart, who doesn't want to be a lich coz they are too ugly... hehehehe.. my kinda guy!

All in all, I think it's kewl, if a little lazy.. and it's nice to see Heros and MM moving closer together (potions and such).

Also- 3do, if you want a decent manual, I know someone who's a great writer (me).. for a nominal fee... lol!


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jondifool
jondifool


Promising
Adventuring Hero
extinct but alive!
posted March 29, 2002 06:12 PM

There is a decent manual on the CD , in pdf format. I suppose its decent, it's long 120 pages!!

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nernug
nernug


Adventuring Hero
posted March 29, 2002 06:35 PM

Remember in hmmo3 when you had to get the tactics skill to set your army in formations before the battle?
In homm4 you can do that without skills. There is a formations screen in the right corner where you can place them as you like. With the "box formation" you can but all your melee troops around your ranged ones! Yippii!

However it's not all "yippii”.....

For some sick and twisted reason, there is no grid in battle. Can you imagine how much anger and frustration this will generate? There will be countless of examples when people thought that his/her archers were safe from melee attackers only to find out he/she was wrong.
Imagine playing chess with no squares. It's the same thing.

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jondifool
jondifool


Promising
Adventuring Hero
extinct but alive!
posted March 29, 2002 07:01 PM

I to first miss the grid, but on the other hand we now have to master the game a little more. Looking at the movement rate, taking terrain in account too. So knowing if something is in range or not is now skill and we would learn.
Turning looks like it take movement to! i am not sure, but thats the impression I get!
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ursula
ursula


Adventuring Hero
posted April 09, 2002 01:00 PM

Oke here goes

Bought it on sunday
First time installed it on sunday.
tried to play but it said all my maps where "bad"
so i figured lets uninstall en install again (maybe my comp didnt understand me when i said install)
second time install went just fine
first thing to do, due to my slowness of my computer, was to turn off animation
and that was a good thing

First time i started direclty with the campaign (lysander or something)
this is what i think of it so far
- How the heck did i split army's again ?
- This dam caravan is realy expensive(and dont see the use yet)
- 14000 gold for a angel thingy ? (something for on my "to do list" when im in month3 orso)
- The week doenst seem so important anymore since creatures spawn on daily bases.
- Nobility is cool, castle upgrades are pure for defensive reasons
- dont understand the magic system yet (so just build all the stuff)
- in battle most my hero's are wusses that need to hide behind my army
- i love my stun dude's realy fun animation
- i love the satyr's and the way they walk (hop hop)
- cant seem to decide if i want one army consisting of 2 hero's for fighting
 or 2 army's for getting more resources faster
- Before i knew it was late night and had to go to bed
 somewhere in month 3 and still no angels due to lack of crystals, wich i used to get my monks

Next day monday
Had to restart mission due to a lost ankh.
i did a battle and thought i was not gonna win it, so i put it on autobattle
this is where i noticed the stupid AI he just attacks with my hero and the retalliation alone already killed him
anyway my hero's died that battle but i won the battle, so some units survived.
dont think i was able to put the ankh on a unit or maybe i did and forgot what unit i gave it to.
this could be some sort of bug.

some more remarks on the game
- i'm able to build the first part of a town pretty quick but after that there is not much to build in a town.
 angels to expsensive and constantly need money for creatures.
- found out how the caravan works and i love it. No more need for logistic hero's that gather stuff
 just once a while use the caravan and within days everybody is where you want them.
- played a mini map game with necromancers and its true vampires RAWK, have to get used to the numbers though.
 only had 3 vampires but they killed loads of stuff for me. Later when i had six vampire's i thought i was invinceble.
- the way music is being played sucks
- the game is very very slow (its kinda funny i can hear my hero moving but screen is not up to date yet)
- crash count is once so far
- out of memory messages 4 times now
- my HDD is going nuts swapping stuff (thought i had 128 mb, yes i do)
- everything gets slower by the turn.

Conclusion
Buggy game
Slow performance
Nice combat stuff (only miss the window and scroll bar to see what happened, spells, damage, kills, etc)
Have to forget H3 idea's
Have to learn H4 idea's (hero's development, walking army's with no hero, use of spell casting)
Handi to have quick autobattle if creatures try to flee (i still wanna kill em for xp)

Ursula






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Milena
Milena


Responsible
Supreme Hero
in supreme disgrace
posted April 09, 2002 02:22 PM

Cathy

that was the whole idea. And it's not 3do this time, it's NWC.

I think it's hilarious to see the fans in the game. Like in mm7. I don't think they did it because they are lazy. I actually find it a brilliant idea. I always hire Saleena, Elara, Rex Mundi, Kathleen. I just think it adds up a lot to the joy of the game.
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InfernoGuy
InfernoGuy


Adventuring Hero
Enjoys eating chicken
posted April 10, 2002 04:14 AM

Believe it or not, the Canadian version actually has a larger manual.
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FuriousGeorge
FuriousGeorge


Hired Hero
posted April 10, 2002 04:33 AM

There's either a memory leak or something similar going on, because if you play for really long marathon sessions (no i wouldn't know about that, nope) your swap file steadily grows to enormous. I have 512MB of memory & this only happens after long hours of play, so i'm guessing it's more of a leak. Either that or my nvidia drivers are what's causing the problems (doesn't suprise me).
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Pure_Chaos
Pure_Chaos


Bad-mannered
Known Hero
Destroyer of Morons
posted April 10, 2002 05:06 AM

The only thing that drives me crazy is..

The sh|tty PDF manual. Sure its informative, but any half-decent company would supply a proper booklet. And if they think I will print out 100+ pages, they are nuts.

Just more proof 3DO's tight on money.

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FuriousGeorge
FuriousGeorge


Hired Hero
posted April 10, 2002 05:55 AM

You didn't get a manual?
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ursula
ursula


Adventuring Hero
posted April 10, 2002 02:49 PM

Some funny stuff.
Yesterday i managed to get lysander killed and still continue the game without him.

I had two heroes in one party lysander en protoe type ?
anyway i went into battle pressed autobattle to see
what kinda spells the computer thinks are cool.
the computer start attacking 4 stacks of 14 griffins with lysander in the frontlines.
so lysander dies from first attack from first stack
imortality potion kicks in.
so lysander dies from first attack from second stack

Stupid AI !!

Thats where i press autobattle again, cause lysander is not suppposed to die.

When its my turn i press retreat (wich is possible since i still have 1 hero left) this is not possible if you have no heroes left.

There ya go i'm back in worldmap and the game forgot to check if lysander died

So i was able to continue playing the rest of the map without lysander

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anelf
anelf

Tavern Dweller
posted January 12, 2003 11:08 AM

UR WRONG

Actually lysander is allowed to die... as long as sum other heroe can go and get him.. (ded heroes can be ressureceted at towns)

SO THERE!!! BTW HEROES 4 ROCKZ

PS: ITS AN OFFTOPIC BUT.. how the hell do i get a sig? it aint on my profile screen
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EmperorSly
EmperorSly


Known Hero
Destroyer of Liver
posted January 16, 2003 12:11 PM

nernuq, ther IS a grid all right -- just press G during combat. it is also possible to show creature walk ranges (at least about your creatures)
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splat
splat


Adventuring Hero
posted January 16, 2003 02:41 PM

You can make your hero tougher by upgrading the combat skill and the magic resistance skill, and/or by using artifacts that increase combat ratings and magic resistance. If your hero has grown high enough, he can go alone, no more creatures needed!

The Caravan needs to be built once, and then you can use it for free, unlimited.

I think it's good that castles are expensive. In heroes 3 you were always attacking castles, because they were not so expensive and they gave lots of extra creatures, and it gave good defence. You can now find citadels or forts sometimes, and have an easier battle because the enemy didn't do the obvious buy of a too-cheap and necessary castle.

The same thing goes for level 4 dwellings. You have to play with low-level creatures for some longer.

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terje_the_mad_wizard


Responsible
Supreme Hero
Disciple of Herodotus
posted January 28, 2003 11:32 AM

Planeswalker told me a few weeks ago that you needed a patch to get the grid function..
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