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Thread: What Upgrade do you think is Best? [ This thread is 2 pages long: (1) 2 ]
Camelnor
Camelnor


Famous Hero
Also known as Blue Camel
posted September 30, 2001 05:53 PM

Poll Question:
What Upgrade do you think is Best?

Is it the giant to the titan, or the gremlin to m gremlin? (the only upgrades to gain range ability in normal h3)

the gorgons to mighty gorgons?(gaining the infamous death stare ability)

elves to grand elves or archers to marksmen, gaining the 2 shot per round ability?

or, my favorite, the behemoths to ancient behemoths... (gaining the 80% defense reducing ability and a whopping 140 extra hp... not to mention the additional attack/defense.... which makes one of the worst unupgraded L7's to one of, if not THE best L7...)

or is it the vampire lords with their bloodsucking ability...


here are a few more choices because i figured some people would get mad if i didnt include these:

6. black knights to death knights (gaining the much feared death blow)

7. hag to harpy hag (getting that annoying "strike and fly back" ability WITH no retaliation, so they dont get butchered)

8. air elemental to storm elemental (in armageddon's blade, gaining the range ability)

9. pixie to sprite (gaining the no retal ability, which helps them not to get killed too easily)

10. swordsmen to crusader (gaining the ability to strike twice)

11. genie to master genie (gaining 4 additional speed, plus the ability to cast a random beneficial spell)

12. Elves to Grand Elves/Archers to Marksmen (gains an additional shot per round)

Hope i didnt leave any out!!!



Responses:
Giants to Titans
Gorgons to Mighty Gorgons
Gremlins to Master Gremlins
Vampires to Vampire Lords
Behemoths to Ancient Behemoths
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Preserver
Preserver


Promising
Famous Hero
Elemental Druid
posted September 30, 2001 06:12 PM
Edited By: Hexa on 26 Jan 2002

Grand Elves...

Upgrade the wood elves, and you have the best shooter in the game... (by level and cost)

Edit: revived!@
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LordTitan
LordTitan


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Hit Dice: 76d12+608 HP
posted September 30, 2001 06:17 PM

Uhhh... there are no upgrades in HOMM4 sorry.
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Promising
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Elemental Druid
posted September 30, 2001 06:22 PM

This is a HoMM3 thread. Just posted the wrong place...
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RMS
RMS


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posted September 30, 2001 06:52 PM

...if anyone chooses anything other than the upgrade to grand elves, I've gotta wonder what they're thinking about...
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Nebuka
Nebuka


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posted September 30, 2001 07:15 PM

Level 1: pixies to sprites
Level 2: airs to storms
Level 3: elves to grand elves
Level 4: vampires to vampire lords
Level 5: gorgons to mighty ones
Level 6: psychic to magic elementals
Level 7: giants to titans

Overall: my level 7 upgrade

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StormWarning
StormWarning


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Archmage of Thunder
posted September 30, 2001 08:53 PM

By level:

1 - Sprite, M Grem
2 - Marksman, Wolf Raider, Harpy Hag (no retaliation + swoop attack = )
3 - Cerberus, Grand Elf, Dragonfly
4 - V Lord, Crusader, Ogre Mage
5 - Mighty Gorgon, Master Genie
6 - Dread Knight, Efreet Sultan, Magic Elemental
7 - Titan, Ancient Behemoth, AA

So hard to pick just one ...
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Gerdash
Gerdash


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posted September 30, 2001 10:33 PM

sprites
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Camelnor
Camelnor


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Also known as Blue Camel
posted October 01, 2001 01:24 AM

Stormwarning...

Quote:

By level:

1 - Sprite, M Grem
2 - Marksman, Wolf Raider, Harpy Hag (no retaliation + swoop attack = )
3 - Cerberus, Grand Elf, Dragonfly
4 - V Lord, Crusader, Ogre Mage
5 - Mighty Gorgon, Master Genie
6 - Dread Knight, Efreet Sultan, Magic Elemental
7 - Titan, Ancient Behemoth, AA

So hard to pick just one ...  


well, heres the best upg by level IMO...

1 - master gremlin... they are quite useful early on, and good fodder.

2 - marksman... 2 shots just makes them sooo much more useful

3 - grand elves... ditto... all you get w/the dragon fly upg is increased speed.  so i dont see how you consider that one of the best L3 upgrades... and cerberus all u get is the 3 headed attack, which seems to be not that useful considering cerberi are relatively weak in the first place... now if they were a L6... i might change my mind

4 - V lord hands down... undoubtably the best L4 upgrade... i mean, they go from being THE worst L4 to THE best.

5 - m gorgons... death stare owns thee

6 - i guess ill hafta go w/ the dread knights here... just becuase there arent that many good L6 upgrades.

7 - im kinda torn between titans and ancient behemoths...
titans gain range, and a lotta attack/defense, and an additional 150 hp(i think, correct me if im wrong), while ancient behemoths gain a lotta attack defense, the 80% defense reducer thing, and 140 hp, and some much needed speed (from 6 to 9)...

i guess i could see how u could say AA... they do gain some speed and the resurrect ability, but i dont think they are as much improved as the titans or the behemoths.

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Lith-Maethor
Lith-Maethor


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posted October 01, 2001 01:48 AM

which upgrade is better?

...frankly I don't care... nor can I choose

the upgrade I always like is Sylvan (Wood) Elves to High (Grand) Elves
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Dragonlord
Dragonlord


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The Head Dragon Master
posted October 01, 2001 09:37 AM

i like the Grand Elves to Sharpshooters (though Grand Elves dont upgrade in their town[only Gelu can upgrade Grand Elves and hes only in a campaighn game]).
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Gravdragon
Gravdragon


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Barbarian
posted October 01, 2001 01:05 PM

I think the upgrade from air elemental to storm elemental is the best. You gain a very good shooter for level 2 and with no meele penalty he is as useful at close range and at almost no cost at all. It also has the highest damage range (2-8, 400% difference) On the other side it is very vulnerable to lightning, but what the heck...
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niteshade
niteshade


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posted October 01, 2001 03:05 PM

The most significant upgrade is definetely elves to grand elves. While that upgrade is quite good, it only doubles their attack power without doing much more for them.

Giants to titans on the other hand substantialy increases hit points as well as attack power, and gives them a ranged attack where they did not have one before.

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StormWarning
StormWarning


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Archmage of Thunder
posted October 01, 2001 04:32 PM
Edited By: StormWarning on 1 Oct 2001

Quote:
all you get w/the dragon fly upg is increased speed. so i dont see how you consider that one of the best L3 upgrades...


No, Camelnor, you get the ability to cast Weakness on anyone you attack (very fun on the Lucid Pools or Magic Plains terrain ). That's why they're the second best level 3 upgrade. And Cerberi also get no retaliation, which is huge.

Gravdragon, Storm Elementals do have a melee penalty, as do Ice Elementals and Master Gremlins, which limits their effectiveness.

Overall, I'd have to go with these top 5:
1) V-Lord. Big groups of these guys don't die unless some ******* pulls a hit-and-run.
2) Mighty Gorgon. The bigger the creature, the nastier these guys are.
3) Titan. Double health, range ability with no retaliation. All I can say is .
4) Ancient Behemoth. Nearly double health and that killer defense reduction ability (66 damage base average against AAs).
5) Efreet Sultan. "If I'm going down I'm taking you with me!"
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LordTitan
LordTitan


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Hit Dice: 76d12+608 HP
posted October 01, 2001 08:01 PM

Giants to Titans.
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Camelnor
Camelnor


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Also known as Blue Camel
posted October 01, 2001 08:20 PM

stormwarning....

Quote:

No, Camelnor, you get the ability to cast Weakness on anyone you attack (very fun on the Lucid Pools or Magic Plains terrain ). That's why they're the second best level 3 upgrade. And Cerberi also get no retaliation, which is huge.

Gravdragon, Storm Elementals do have a melee penalty, as do Ice Elementals and Master Gremlins, which limits their effectiveness.




well, i had forgotten that they added the thing w/dragon flies... even so, theres no way in hell they are the best L3 upgrade... i mean, u cant say that they are best cuz the weakness thing is good on magic plains... i mean, how many magic plains do u encounter? most maps dont even have any on them.  so u cant use that in your reasoning.
grand elves is clearly a better upgrade.. i mean u get 2 shots instead of one... thats much more of an improvement than getting some increased speed and a mediocre special..

hmmm... hell hounds have no retaliation just like cerberi...

Quote:
Overall, I'd have to go with these top 5:
1) V-Lord. Big groups of these guys don't die unless some ******* pulls a hit-and-run.
2) Mighty Gorgon. The bigger the creature, the nastier these guys are.
3) Titan. Double health, range ability with no retaliation. All I can say is .
4) Ancient Behemoth. Nearly double health and that killer defense reduction ability (66 damage base average against AAs).
5) Efreet Sultan. "If I'm going down I'm taking you with me!"

so you basically copied and pasted what i said except for the efreet sultans... great


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StormWarning
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posted October 01, 2001 09:20 PM

Camelnor

Hell hounds don't have no retaliation. Only Cerberi do. (I'm amazed I know that, because I rarely play Inferno, but I do know that.)
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Camelnor
Camelnor


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Also known as Blue Camel
posted October 01, 2001 09:41 PM

perhaps u are right...

they may have changed this in the patch or in sod... my knowledge has been failing me a little as of late, considering its been a while since ive played h3 and even longer since ive played inferno, lol.

i know they changed the hounds in the patch... because before the patch they did 2-7 damage while cerberi did 2-5... that was funny.  i never upgraded them because of this... lol


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StillShady
StillShady


Adventuring Hero
Your Ultimate Slayer
posted October 02, 2001 05:22 PM

Titan -> Legendary Titan would be cool. With more than 1000HP and could attack like a chain lightning.
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Camelnor
Camelnor


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Also known as Blue Camel
posted October 05, 2001 12:46 PM

ok...?

im not sure what that had to do with EXISTING heroes 3 upgrades... but ok

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