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Thread: Heroes 7 Stronghold Orcs of Sahaar [speculation] This thread is 9 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 · «PREV / NEXT»
kobalt
kobalt


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posted October 12, 2014 01:51 AM

RMZ1989 said:
DarkLord said:
RMZ1989 said:
First one looks good, second one would be good with just bonus armor/weapon and something else. No need to turn it into Undead version of a Gnoll.


this picture was intended for FortressH3


It doesn't matter, with that pale fur and glowing eyes, he looks ghoulish.


Thank you for taking interest in my work guys. One thing though, it was not intended as an Undead gnoll. Allow me to shed some light on that. The way I saw it was that the faction was all bout deviants and outcasts; in fact I would call this faction Exile in contrast to Sanctuary(but that's just me). Some of the creatures dwelling amongst the swamp folk may be to wild and unreliable so the Beastmasters and Witches of the swamp might have had to subdue them through mind controlling spell, that's why the glow. It's not a green necromantic glow (green->undead in Ashan Lore) and the "pale" fur is actually just white... as a white hyena.(an interesting chromatic pallet from my point of view)
Again, thank you for your support! As a Heroes fan and an artist it means a lot

please visit link for the pic description:

http://kobaltmaster.deviantart.com/art/Gnolls-451275407?q=gallery%3AKobaltmaster%2F778781&qo=0

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NACHOOOO
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posted October 12, 2014 04:27 AM

@Darklord I reckon you're dead on with Wyvern - elite flyer Cyclops - champion shooter. Behemoth - champion melee!

@Kobalt you're artwork is fantastic

Core:
Goblins - boomerangs and traps like 5 & 6
Orc - melee strong core unit lower growth
Harpy - flyer strike and return

Elite:
Centaur - I'd like the female springbok design
Slayer/bigger melee type - melee
Wyvern - flyer (would love to see them in)

Champs:
Cyclops - shooter
Behemoth - melee

That's what I think is the most likely lineup would consist of, but I would love to see Kobalts gnolls in the core, or Oliphants to be inserted in the elite bracket. It does lack a shaman/earth daughter type which Ubi has been fond of though. Also there has been a new creature type in each faction so far so I would not be surprised to see something new. Lots of options for Stronghold
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posted October 13, 2014 06:07 PM

NACHOOOO said:
@Darklord I reckon you're dead on with Wyvern - elite flyer Cyclops - champion shooter. Behemoth - champion melee!

@Kobalt you're artwork is fantastic

Core:
Goblins - boomerangs and traps like 5 & 6
Orc - melee strong core unit lower growth
Harpy - flyer strike and return

Elite:
Centaur - I'd like the female springbok design
Slayer/bigger melee type - melee
Wyvern - flyer (would love to see them in)

Champs:
Cyclops - shooter
Behemoth - melee

That's what I think is the most likely lineup would consist of, but I would love to see Kobalts gnolls in the core, or Oliphants to be inserted in the elite bracket. It does lack a shaman/earth daughter type which Ubi has been fond of though. Also there has been a new creature type in each faction so far so I would not be surprised to see something new. Lots of options for Stronghold

Lots of options, indeed!
At least they should give us the Behemoth as a Champion. Many of us have been "asking" for that, I reckon...
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kobalt
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posted October 14, 2014 02:40 AM

NACHOOOO said:
@Darklord I reckon you're dead on with Wyvern - elite flyer Cyclops - champion shooter. Behemoth - champion melee!

@Kobalt you're artwork is fantastic

Core:
Goblins - boomerangs and traps like 5 & 6
Orc - melee strong core unit lower growth
Harpy - flyer strike and return

Elite:
Centaur - I'd like the female springbok design
Slayer/bigger melee type - melee
Wyvern - flyer (would love to see them in)

Champs:
Cyclops - shooter
Behemoth - melee

That's what I think is the most likely lineup would consist of, but I would love to see Kobalts gnolls in the core, or Oliphants to be inserted in the elite bracket. It does lack a shaman/earth daughter type which Ubi has been fond of though. Also there has been a new creature type in each faction so far so I would not be surprised to see something new. Lots of options for Stronghold


Thank you for the support Nachoooo. That would indeed be an honor, who knows maybe the Devs will hear you Till then I'm working on the next Swamp creature. Your line-up seems effective but if I may suggest, removing the "orc" and instead have this: Goblin, Harpy,Centaur(core), Shaman-like unit,Slayer(the only orc in the line up but a badass), Wyvern (elite), Cyclopse, Behemoth (champs). Thus there is no lack of a magic user in the line-up. What do you think?

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Lokheit
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posted October 14, 2014 03:16 AM
Edited by Lokheit at 03:20, 14 Oct 2014.

kobalt said:
NACHOOOO said:
@Darklord I reckon you're dead on with Wyvern - elite flyer Cyclops - champion shooter. Behemoth - champion melee!

@Kobalt you're artwork is fantastic

Core:
Goblins - boomerangs and traps like 5 & 6
Orc - melee strong core unit lower growth
Harpy - flyer strike and return

Elite:
Centaur - I'd like the female springbok design
Slayer/bigger melee type - melee
Wyvern - flyer (would love to see them in)

Champs:
Cyclops - shooter
Behemoth - melee

That's what I think is the most likely lineup would consist of, but I would love to see Kobalts gnolls in the core, or Oliphants to be inserted in the elite bracket. It does lack a shaman/earth daughter type which Ubi has been fond of though. Also there has been a new creature type in each faction so far so I would not be surprised to see something new. Lots of options for Stronghold


Thank you for the support Nachoooo. That would indeed be an honor, who knows maybe the Devs will hear you Till then I'm working on the next Swamp creature. Your line-up seems effective but if I may suggest, removing the "orc" and instead have this: Goblin, Harpy,Centaur(core), Shaman-like unit,Slayer(the only orc in the line up but a badass), Wyvern (elite), Cyclopse, Behemoth (champs). Thus there is no lack of a magic user in the line-up. What do you think?


Change Harpy (strike and return belongs to Dungeon core) for Gnoll (swamp fortress nostalgia and they're related to desert in MMDOC) and deal I would even change shaman race to ogre, but that's probably asking too much on Ashan's style of bringning a lot of the "dominant race" units if they only put 1 orc out there.

I've never liked Cyclops as champions, but if there is Behemoth to pick, who cares who is the other one

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NACHOOOO
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posted October 14, 2014 01:36 PM

Lokheit said:
Change Harpy (strike and return belongs to Dungeon core)


Not so in the Ashan universe
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Wellplay
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Poland Stronk
posted October 14, 2014 03:05 PM

Dungeon in H5 had strike and return unit.

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Kurush
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posted October 14, 2014 05:40 PM

Ashan got retconned after H5

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Danny
Danny


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posted October 14, 2014 08:31 PM

Harpies are beastmen in Ashan and they might not even be in H7 anyway.

Are we going to have any Stronghold reveals in 2014 at all?

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Poland Stronk
posted October 14, 2014 08:41 PM

We gona have Academy reveal after Dungeon/Inferno voting.

Not sure if we get Stronghold/Necropolis reveal this year tough.

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Elvin
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posted October 14, 2014 09:41 PM

Careful what you wish for. If you knew everything the wait for the release would feel excruciatingly slow..
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Kimarous
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posted October 16, 2014 07:20 AM

Something that just came to mind... I'm less concerned about the desert aesthetic of the units themselves and more the design of the heroes. Let's assume that the base model of the heroes will be "human on a horse" like with H6... will the desert-based Stronghold heroes look basically the same as H6's Academy heroes, just less ornate?

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RMZ1989
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posted October 16, 2014 12:59 PM

Kimarous said:
Something that just came to mind... I'm less concerned about the desert aesthetic of the units themselves and more the design of the heroes. Let's assume that the base model of the heroes will be "human on a horse" like with H6... will the desert-based Stronghold heroes look basically the same as H6's Academy heroes, just less ornate?

"human on a horse"



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Elvin
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posted October 16, 2014 03:33 PM

Bearded cyclopes riding oliphants surpasses even dwarven bear-riding awesomeness.
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NACHOOOO
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posted October 17, 2014 12:50 PM

Cyclops on an Oliphant???? ALL OF THE DAMAGE!!!!!

You could make it work. Maybe. If you max the creature production at 1 per week regardless of what you do.... make it really really expensive.... nah, even then I don't think it would be fair. If they were still going with boss creatures he'd be the boss of all bosses
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posted October 17, 2014 02:15 PM

Isn't Acamas an unique hero? I mean, there aren't more Cyclops riding Oliphants, right?
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posted October 17, 2014 02:27 PM

Storm-Giant said:
Isn't Acamas an unique hero? I mean, there aren't more Cyclops riding Oliphants, right?


Oliphant short description in DoC says that they're used as mounts for Cyclops. So, I guess history knows other one-eyed cavalry
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posted October 17, 2014 02:33 PM

Oh my gods yes. I want to see a cyclops cavalry, riding an olyphant into battle, shooting lasers out of their single eye, while munching on goblins with one hand and a tree trunk i the other one, playing baseball with the enemy!

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Storm-Giant
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posted October 17, 2014 02:35 PM

I stand corrected then.

"one-eyed cavalry", it sounds cool damn
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posted October 17, 2014 02:54 PM

"Stampede (activated ability): the unit will charge in a straight line to its target, trampling all units in between underfoot. Stampede may also trigger automatically when the unit receives damage."


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