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Buji
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posted November 06, 2014 06:28 PM |
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monere said:
I knew it that I wasn't entirely wrong 
Cheers!
You WERE entirely wrong:
monere said:
If you want to split 2 or more units, buff them, put them on hack/tazar etc., now that's where situational comes into play and this type of test doesn't provide accurate, unbiased conclusions.
The sole purpose of this testing was to see how they fare in 1vs1 without any primary or secondary skills and specializations directly influencing a creature. Thats why I didn't use Tazar, Mephala etc
crimsonSoldier said:
Spirit of Oppression is an advantage to AB because +1 morale of AA is its counterpart towards AB's 80% defense reduction (along with resurrection). If AA get morale, it gets a second attack without retal.
So what, even with taking one advantage away from the AAs they are still superior
And again, 1vs1 battles do absolutely NOT provide any significant value in terms of creature strength
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kicferk
Known Hero
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posted November 06, 2014 06:48 PM |
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crimsonSoldier said:
I consider AAs superior personally 
I'm just playing with numbers now- if both heroes has 31 A 70 D something stupid happens!
AA (30/30) -> (61/100)
AB (19/19) -> (50/89)
When AA attacks, (61- 89) = -28 so the maximum damage reduction is applied.
When AB attacks, (50- 0.2 * 100) = 30 so the maximum damage amplification is applied.
AA takes 20 hits to kill the AB, while AB takes 2 to kill the AA
That's one of the reasons why choosing attack in any arenas or battle academy's is better  You never know if your opponent has behemots 
But to be honest, in some of Baron's maps(check them, they are so cool  ) I loved to use similar strategy: make a ton of AB's and increase my own defense, so that they kill anything off.
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OhforfSake
Promising
Legendary Hero
Initiate
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posted November 06, 2014 07:00 PM |
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Isn't it in Heroes 2 the bonus from attack is 10% and only half in HoMM 3, hence the diff should be 60 not 30 for a factor 4 (65% avg., 80% of AA life removed)?
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monere
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted November 06, 2014 07:21 PM |
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ok
Buji said:
monere said:
I knew it that I wasn't entirely wrong
Cheers!
You WERE entirely wrong:
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OhforfSake
Promising
Legendary Hero
Initiate
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posted November 06, 2014 07:46 PM |
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LoL, poor monere, even 2 months afterwards he gets told off.
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Pkdragon
Tavern Dweller
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posted November 09, 2014 07:56 PM |
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Edited by Pkdragon at 19:59, 09 Nov 2014.
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How can I pick just one? I'll just list my favorite of each faction 
Castle: Probably Archers but not a fan of castle.
Rampart: Centaurs. Amazing level 1 unit. Again, not a huge fan of Rampart either but I've had good experiences with the Centaurs.
Tower: No doubt, Titans. Titans are one of the truly iconic things about this series IMO.
Inferno: Cerberus. So adorable, so deadly
Dungeon: Trogolodytes. I love their design, they're actually kind of creepy when you think about it, and very weird. I'll admit I'm biased because my first exposure to this series was Quest for the Dragonbone Staff, and Trogs were really unique and out of place in that game.
Necropolis: Vampire Lords. Nuff said, really.
Stronghold: Behemoths, by a very small margin. Not ABs, just normal Behemoths, I like their design better because they remind me of Star Wars. Cyclops and Thunderbirds are close though, love Stronghold units in general.
Fortress: Dragon Flies, no doubt. I love that one of the best units in Fortress is a freaking bug, another one of the things that makes Heroes 3 unique.
and, just for fun:
Neutral: Crystal Dragons, I love how derpy they look when they walk. I can't help but get the impression they're walking on their tippie toes.
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Esben
Tavern Dweller
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posted November 12, 2014 07:44 AM |
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I like Arch Angels the most. They are so powerful. Other than that I like Skeletons (you can make enormous stacks of them) and Titans. There are so many nice creatures, so it's hard to pick one, but I go with these three.
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monere
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted November 12, 2014 08:30 AM |
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Well, I don't like AAs (quite at all, maybe because I don't like the castle town at all, I don't know) but I agree that there's so many cool creatures that such polls (the best level xx creature) are pointless.
I, for one, like (design-wise) titans, naga queens, wyvern monarchs, mighty gorgons, efreeti sultans, arch devils, ancient behemoths, magic elements, dread knights, minotaur kings and grand elves all the same
Esben said:
I like Arch Angels the most. They are so powerful. Other than that I like Skeletons (you can make enormous stacks of them) and Titans. There are so many nice creatures, so it's hard to pick one, but I go with these three.
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DivineClio
Adventuring Hero
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posted November 12, 2014 03:07 PM |
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@ohforsake
A unit like this:
A:1
D:1
Hp:1
range:1-1
Speed:26
Best unit in the fk world?
kicferk said:
That's one of the reasons why choosing attack in any arenas or battle academy's is better You never know if your opponent has behemots
But to be honest, in some of Baron's maps(check them, they are so cool ) I loved to use similar strategy: make a ton of AB's and increase my own defense, so that they kill anything off.
Maretti teach you: AB+massive attack+ expert haste= free win
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kicferk
Known Hero
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posted November 12, 2014 03:26 PM |
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None of it is enough or necessary to win.
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Dread-Knight
Tavern Dweller
AncientBeast.com
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posted November 14, 2014 06:30 AM |
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I think my nickname gives it away
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OhforfSake
Promising
Legendary Hero
Initiate
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posted November 16, 2014 11:15 PM |
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DivineClio said:
@ohforsake
A unit like this:
A:1
D:1
Hp:1
range:1-1
Speed:26
Best unit in the fk world?
Would still be better than any other stat at 26 or equivalent..
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Zzyrks
Tavern Dweller
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posted December 09, 2014 01:49 AM |
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1 Minotaur King
2 Crystal. Dragon
3 Manticore
4 Hydra
5 Phoneix
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Zzyrks
Tavern Dweller
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posted December 09, 2014 01:54 AM |
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Best spell in heroes 3?
What's the best spells in heroes 3?
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OhforfSake
Promising
Legendary Hero
Initiate
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posted December 09, 2014 03:34 AM |
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I think this thread is the most recent where you can hear opinion about what spells people prefer.
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JtS
Tavern Dweller
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posted December 11, 2014 12:55 AM |
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Zzyrks
Tavern Dweller
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posted December 13, 2014 02:40 PM |
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My friends list is
1 Minotaur King
2 Champion
3 Black dragon
4 Goblin
5 Red dragon
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Zzyrks
Tavern Dweller
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posted December 13, 2014 02:40 PM |
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My friends list is
1 Minotaur King
2 Champion
3 Black dragon
4 Goblin
5 Red dragon
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titowam
Hired Hero
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posted December 19, 2014 08:43 PM |
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Dread Knights because double damage.
Black Dragon because immunity to all spells and OP.
Mighty Gorgons because OP.
Master Genies because spellcaster.
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looom
Adventuring Hero
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posted December 22, 2014 08:36 AM |
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Edited by looom at 08:38, 22 Dec 2014.
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top 5 eh?
5. Chaos Hydra
4. Pit Lord - not cuz it's super good in battle, demon summoning, baby
3. Mighty Gorgon
2. Minotaur King
1. Black Dragon
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