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posted April 05, 2016 11:00 PM |
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blob2 said:
Actually they're more used in cosmetics. Kinda makes sense cause it's something that keeps a baby safe for 9 months...
so things can grow inside your face? 
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posted April 05, 2016 11:06 PM |
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No they're keeping old ladies skin smooth...
So basically it's like old ladies were eating (absorbing?) babies
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posted April 05, 2016 11:35 PM |
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i just rub babies on my face. keeps me baby-butt smooth. and smelling like babies. chicks dig that fresh-baby smell. 
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posted April 05, 2016 11:49 PM |
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posted April 05, 2016 11:50 PM |
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lol, no. just... no. 
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posted April 06, 2016 01:01 PM |
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Thats it, going with prostitutes is since yesterday a crime in France, 1500 euros fine. Humanity's oldest job disintegrated under leftists wrath.
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posted April 06, 2016 01:12 PM |
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posted April 06, 2016 01:25 PM |
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I am not even at its moral or legal aspect, but practical. Those who need to prostitute to survive will have now to hide, therefore work in a much less secure environment, then the clients will be stressed and aggressive now, seeing that they risk a fine. Then rich clients will continue under the cover of "call girl" system, so finally you get a purely based on social rank pattern, increasing inequality.
Then, speaking about the moral aspect, is laughable that the socialists confirmed the gay marriage by the "if both agree, let it be" argument, while the relationship between client and prostitute is based on same concept.
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posted April 06, 2016 08:23 PM |
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Prostitution itself should not be illegal for various reasons which are all very apparent.
1- Declaring something illegal only because it is considered immoral is against human rights and it's totalitarian on a medieval level. It's simply nobody else's business.
2- Even the immorality of it is very much in question unless morality is some old conventions you blindly memorize. We are way past the times where sex out of wedlock is seen as something immoral, so how is selling it as a service still immoral? And at which point does it become so. The cinema industry, the media, fashion business, they all constantly sell sex. What exactly changes when a woman decides to do the same thing directly with her own body?
3- It's one of those things you can never keep in control, all it requires are the participants and a private room. All this will achieve is simply take the sector deeper in the ground and into the hands of mafia. It's already quite an underground sector anyway and now the sex workers will be completely helpless in situations they are victimized since they wont be able to seek help from law enforcement.
4- Because of the above, even most police officers wont really execute the law. It is doomed to just remain on paper. And the gap widening between the law on paper and the de facto execution of it, is never a good thing. Overall, it will cause people to obey the law selectively and consider some rules out of touch with reality.
That being said, in most parts of the world and even in first world countries, prostitution goes hand in hand with human trafficking. A lot of the women who work are not doing it willingly, they are trapped by mafia's muscle, loansharking, they dont have passports etc. All of that should naturally be illegal. But as I said, a complete illegalization will only push the sector deeper underground.
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posted April 06, 2016 08:35 PM |
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artu said:
1- Declaring something illegal only because it is considered immoral is against human rights and it's totalitarian on a medieval level. It's simply nobody else's business.
Polygamy and incest are already banned because immoral. Then walking nude is prohibited too, because "immoral". I can find a lot of things which are banned because immoral, yet most of people won't find that totalitarian. Hard pick.
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posted April 06, 2016 08:53 PM |
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Close incest, yes. I think that's beyond cultural, it's socio-biological. It's a taboo that outdates civilization. But you can marry a distant cousin of yours or whatever.
The dress thing is cultural, yet, it is so embedded into our daily life, it would be unrealistic to think public zones can be like nude camps just based on a "rational objection." There are tribes who walk around almost naked though, it doesnt affect them in any negative way.
Polygamy is illegal only in some countries, I wouldnt object to it in an ideal world with flawless gender equality and if it worked both ways but with the Islamist context here, it comes down to conservative morons who have opinions such as "women shouldnt travel alone" suggesting "our prophet allowed us to take four wives, ok!" So, naturally, I'm strongly against it. As things are, legalizing it will only cause women to be exploited dramatically.
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posted May 14, 2016 02:08 AM |
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just saw two posts on craigslist; i'm guessing from the same chick.
a woman seeking to live with a man that'll be rough as hell with her(throwing her up against the wall, beating her), and then loving her like usual and taking care of her. and the catch is, what's really snowed up about it, is that she has kids; and they have to live with the man too.
can you imagine being kids and having a snowing mother like that? hearing some stranger snow your mom up(unknowing of what hardcore S&M is all about), and then pretend it's a loving relationship later? goddamn, she's going to create serial killer children. sounds like henry lee lucas's mom.
either she's setting the guy up for an abuse/sue rap, or she's genuinely into the harder side of S&M, and she's dragging her kids along behind her. either way, she's a snowed up snow.
...or a pretty good troll.
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posted May 14, 2016 04:23 AM |
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It'd be a good idea for her to explain to her children (in an age-appropriate way) that she enjoys what she does in private and that it's only okay because she likes it and has consented to it, and to never do it to anyone who's not consenting. But even if she doesn't do that, if the children see that the mom and her boyfriend have a good relationship outside of the bedroom, they'll eventually put two and two together, and not be messed up.
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posted May 14, 2016 03:01 PM |
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yeah, and they can just forget about the violent sounds that came out of the room beforehand. where the rest of the world defines that kind of behavior as abuse. surely they won't be confused or doubting that their mother would be telling them the actual truth. 
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posted May 14, 2016 07:16 PM |
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You're not giving kids enough credit. If she obviously doesn't appear distressed by the prospect of going to the bedroom (in fact, the opposite) and seems fine outside of it, they'll figure out that she's not being abused. Kids aren't easily traumatized by benign things, and in modern American society, we tend to sell them short.
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posted May 14, 2016 09:44 PM |
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Atronach said:
benign
throwing a woman up against the wall and beating her is benign? exposing children to their mother getting thrown up against the wall and being beaten is benign? wtf is this i don't even.
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posted May 14, 2016 10:50 PM |
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As someone with some familiarity with BDSM, I can tell you that while its practitioners sometimes describe it as being thrown up against a wall and beaten, it's typically not as violent as that makes it sound. It sounds like getting beaten up, like in a bad fight, but it's really much gentler than that. And to the extent that it's violent, it is indeed benign because everyone involved in it enjoys it and is consenting. If it were abusive, the mother would look apprehensive/anxious/terrified at the notion of going to the bedroom with her boyfriend, but if she's going to enjoy it, then the kids will catch on to it being fine.
I realize BDSM sounds really weird and dangerous to people who haven't practiced it - I know it did to me - but it's really fine.
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posted May 14, 2016 11:10 PM |
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i've practiced bdsm with consensual adults, mvass. what the lady advertised in the craigslist posts was of the extreme kind. meaning, not for kids.
plus, she "needs a place to live". she's liable to let the guy really get rough with her, just so she and her kids can have a home. her words were, "throw me up against the wall, punch me in the face, whatever you want". i don't think you two are fully grasping the situation she is putting herself and her kids in correctly, at all.
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posted May 14, 2016 11:19 PM |
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I haven't seen the original post, and I don't know her, so you may be right that she'd choose to stay in a bad situation for her kids. Craigslist personal ads are famously sketchy. But I still question the move from "extreme" to "not for kids". They can tell whether she's enjoying it or is afraid of it, and make correct judgments based on that.
I know a couple that practices extreme BDSM, albeit of a different kind, and I wouldn't be at all apprehensive about their potential future kids being in any way harmed by it.
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posted May 14, 2016 11:34 PM |
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mvassilev said:
I know a couple that practices extreme BDSM, albeit of a different kind, and I wouldn't be at all apprehensive about their potential future kids being in any way harmed by it.
uh huh, and are the kids able to hear it and see the after-effects(bruises, blood, etc)?
edit: effects, not affects.
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