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RMS
Responsible
Legendary Hero
-ing yummy foods
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posted January 15, 2002 12:38 AM |
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Petition Changes for HoMM4
I just kinda figured that since most people have at least one problem with the upcoming game, that perhaps if we got together and decide and vote on what the most important things that we want changed are, then we can all sign a petition on the whole list of changes, and hopefully if we send it to NWC, perhaps one or two of our wishes may be met?
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InfernoGuy
Adventuring Hero
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posted January 15, 2002 12:41 AM |
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I know its wishful thinking and a major change to the game but Id really like it if the Necropolis and Inferno Towns were not merged.
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Mutant_Ninj0
Tavern Dweller
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posted January 15, 2002 06:38 AM |
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I agree with InfernoGuy. By the way InfernoGuy, I like your signature  . Also, I would like Angels to have more hp since the Haven troops are kind of weak.
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Jenova
Famous Hero
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posted January 15, 2002 09:40 AM |
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Make the towns more unique in looks. Take away the dynamic terrain background.
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darkspirit
Famous Hero
aka Zutus
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posted January 15, 2002 12:54 PM |
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why would you want to take away the dinamic background?
isn't it logical that a town placed on snow should have a townscreen with snow and not with lava-ground?
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Wesley
Disgraceful
Famous Hero
banned
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posted January 15, 2002 06:24 PM |
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Edited By: Wesley on 15 Jan 2002
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1-Less Human Creatures
2-Necro and Inferno not toghter
3-Haven cooler creatures
4-Stronghold to get some magic
5-More creatures that weren't in homm for a single time.
6-venom Spawn to go to hell!
7-Paladin and Lich to become UNITS
8-White tiger OUT OF PRESERVE
9-A more originall creature then a WOLF in preserve
10-Faster Release date.
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Lith-Maethor
Honorable
Legendary Hero
paid in Coin and Cleavage
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posted January 15, 2002 06:40 PM |
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let's see
1-Less Human Creatures - we need someone to kick with our drags
2-Necro and Inferno not together - still not sure about that..
3-Haven cooler creatures - it is suppossed to be a human town
4-Stronghold to get some magic - nah, it is the Might part of the game
5-More creatures that weren't in homm for a single time. - no argue here
6-Venom Spawn to go to hell! - it is already 
7-Paladin and Lich to become UNITS - why not both?
8-White tiger OUT OF PRESERVE - if not there, only Stronghold
9-A more originall creature then a WOLF in preserve - wolves are great, period
10-Faster Release date. - thumbs up for that!!!
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vesuvius
Hero of Order
Honor Above all Else
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posted January 15, 2002 06:50 PM |
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wake up people
The game is one month to production, beta is over and play balancing is left. They are not going to rebuild the entire game because you wrote a petition on HC.
Either you guys are 15 year olds and so its understandable to imagine you feel you can change something..... but if youre 20 or older, mature up please and get real.
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Lith-Maethor
Honorable
Legendary Hero
paid in Coin and Cleavage
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posted January 15, 2002 06:58 PM |
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hey vess... chil out...
we can always hope can't we?
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Wesley
Disgraceful
Famous Hero
banned
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posted January 15, 2002 08:05 PM |
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Hope??? We can wish!
people/Fans can rebuilt small objects in games..
I still think about my mantis.
And the chimera who took it to the NIGHT ELVES in warcraft.. because off my crybaby acts over there!
Lol and both Banshee and Spider Fiend stayed were they are because of my spoiled letters..
I think we never must loose hope.. but mostly my wishes are for Expansions right now..
can't change the wolf tought.. but whatever..
I had to reply to this topic
The biggest stupidty of NWC is the Wolf..
His remove is my only wish this year!
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vladpopescu79
Promising
Famous Hero
a vampire of taste
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posted January 15, 2002 10:31 PM |
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Vesuvius made it clear for all of us that we, the kids, won't get our favorite toys this time. That's ok, I don't mind too much, since heroes is not the only game on this planet. But, maybe the full grown-ups at the 3do will come finally to realise that the game they make are not for themselves but for us, the children... So I don't give a damn if there are still 2 years or 2 days to the release day, I will make my point clear to them and to you, so please add these to the petition:
- less humans;
- out with the venom spawn;
- leprechauns - not an unit;
- lich - make it unit;
- vampire - this time make it good;
- behemots - change appearance;
- Separate Necropolis from the Inferno.
As you can see, most of my demands are easy to fulfill (if voted on the final list) within days if they really want to.As for the town merge, it should have been fixed long ago.
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MANE, TEKEL, FARES
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Wesley
Disgraceful
Famous Hero
banned
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posted January 15, 2002 10:47 PM |
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Edited By: Wesley on 15 Jan 2002
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Why... :(
Why nobody cares for preserve!
Damn! My favorite town is ruined by those stupid wolfs and Elves.. And nobody who notice it!
They must change the preserve! And now!
Level 1:Sprite/Satyr
Level 2egasus/Druid
Level 3:Sharpshooter/Unicorn
Level 4hoenix/Dryad
Take the White tiger to Neutrall
Gryphon to Haven
Fairy Dragon Neutrall
and make Mantis,Dendroid and Luna/Moon Bear summoned units.
Ow delete the other leftovers..
Elves replaced by Sharpshooters. and Wolfs deleted and thrown into the oblivion! The druid changes into a wolf by movement.. So that's enough for you wolf lovers!
That would form the style homm4 needs..
PS Vlad! You have much the same things in your wishlist as me!
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vladpopescu79
Promising
Famous Hero
a vampire of taste
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posted January 15, 2002 11:13 PM |
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Yes, animals like tigers, wolves, mantis (though this one I would take out of the game) should get neutral.
Sharpshooters instead of elves.
The druid sounds very cool.
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MANE, TEKEL, FARES
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Wesley
Disgraceful
Famous Hero
banned
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posted January 15, 2002 11:29 PM |
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Hmm
Mantis is my second favorite creature tought.. It is in the game because of me..(Altought it could look a little more evil and enchanted. Like a real giant insect.. this one looks a little bit like the original Praying mantis..)
but the wolves should be out! What kind of SPECIAL ability should this animals have? Howling to the moon?
The druid changes into a wolve shape when walking/moving. That is the only thing a wolf should do anyway... Moving.. And the Druid has some other abilities aswel. So change it 3DO!
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Darion
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted January 16, 2002 02:46 AM |
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My petition:
Sharper, cleaner, more detailed artwork with more attention to proportions and overall aesthetic appeal.
That is all unless you want me to go further in depth
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Jenova
Famous Hero
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posted January 16, 2002 03:05 AM |
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Edited By: Jenova on 15 Jan 2002
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why would you want to take away the dinamic background?
isn't it logical that a town placed on snow should have a townscreen with snow and not with lava-ground?
Yes it's logical, but logic in games comes at a cost. Sometimes you don't want logic in the game because its cost is more than its worth. Logic in this case is robbing the towns of their unique identity. You take a look at all the towns over every terrain background and you'll find it hard to distinguish them all (at least at first sight). You look at the snowy town in H3 and can immediately identify it as the Tower, look at the town of Darkness and it's immediately a Necropolis. Look at any town in H4 and it won't be instantly obvious, you would need to look at the buildings (or the title) to tell, and each town is not very unique since they can all look different depending on what terrain they are on.
At least if they included an option to not show dynamic terrain backgrounds it would satisfy both parties.
And speaking of logic in computer games, turn based combat isn't very logical either is it? If NWC were to build Heroes 4 to be entirely logical, it wouldn't be very playable.. or fun. Logic should not come at the cost of fun.
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niteshade
Known Hero
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posted January 16, 2002 07:29 PM |
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To me not having dynamic backgrounds robs the towns of their unique identity. Nothing kills the feel for a map like playing a game that is supposed to take place in the middle of the desert, and having your city appear surounded by snow. The unique look of the towns was not tied to their terrain, but was instead tied to the building styles and placement of the town (with a few exceptions like the fortress which really wouldn't look the same outside the swamp).
Having dynamic backgrounds allows not only for every town type to have a unique feel, but for every individual town of that type to have a unique feel. Now my different towns of the same type will not always feel quite so much like carbon copies of each other if they are in different terrain types. And recognizing which town is which will not be the slightest problem, I can immediately recognize the towns in the screen shots as their types regardless of if they are in the plains or the desert.
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jimmy
Tavern Dweller
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posted January 16, 2002 08:53 PM |
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They cannot merge necro n inferno, its just not right, the whole idea of the necro castle is everything 2 b undead, so none of their troops wud have bin 2 hell, which is where all the inferno troops come from I'm guessing ok they have made a alliance, but still i don't see 2 evil powers sharing a world in harmony let alone a castle, anyhow it sux 3do plz change it!!!
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niteshade
Known Hero
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posted January 16, 2002 09:00 PM |
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Actualy if you know the Might and Magic story, you know that the demons and devils do not come from "hell" or anything like that, but simply come from another world (another planet it's implied) and landed on Erathia as an invasian force. People call them demons and devils because that is what they look like and act like, but they are more like aliens. Over the course of M&M they have been almost completely wiped out, which is why they have to share their town with the undead (who were also hit pretty hard in the M&M series).
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vladpopescu79
Promising
Famous Hero
a vampire of taste
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posted January 17, 2002 12:36 AM |
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I don't really think that uniqueness of a town comes only with the background. First the buildings and general shape of a castle should be different, then we'll think about what type of ground each one should have. My idea is that each town should start it's development with the native terrain.If it's in the middle of a desert then sand it is and if in the mountains let there be snow. Only later should a special building be added. This building will provide a special ability for that town, and also will add a specific season for that town. (It's not really hard to imagine that if some mags want it can't have snow in the middle of the desert. So uniqueness should come later in the game.) Personally I say let dynamic terrain be there, but add this special feature to a specific building.
Wesley, the idea of mantis is a good one, but it simply looks like a bug, nothing more.It should be more special, hope you agree with me.
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