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posted July 10, 2008 05:11 PM | 
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Edited by radar at 12:48, 13 Sep 2008. 
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[NCF_based] Skeleton Mage
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basics 
 
  the New Creature Framework thread by sfidanza: http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=24698 
 
  project's web page: http://www.heroes-fr.com/en/new_creatures_framework.php 
 
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stats & abilities 
 
Thanks to Daystar (creature slot), William (proofread) and My-Key (icon)! 
 
Skeleton Mage - Tier 1 upgrade, Neutral, balanced. 
 
CREATURE_298 / CREATURE_SKELETAL_MAGE 
power rating: 85 
 
  
 
These animated skeletal remains of slain sorcerers wield the forces of Light and Dark magic, regardless of the fact it is a difficult task for a single mage to master both of the magic schools without self destruction. The answer to that riddle is that a reanimated Skeleton Mage is actually constructed from bits and pieces of any number of different skeletons, not a single one. 
 
 
  1 
  1 
  1 - 3 
  4 
  9 
  5 
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  8 
 
  Costs 30 gold. 
  20 
 
Undead. Shooter. Caster. Siphon Mana. 
 
Spellbook: 
  
Mana 10, no mastery 
 
  
Mana 4, mastery Basic 
 
  
Mana 4, mastery Basic 
 
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screenshots 
 
[_1_  ]  
 
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download 
 
http://www.mediafire.com/?20zy52itxsp 
 
Installation instructions: unpack directly into your game directory folder. 
 
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my other creatures: Arcane Blades, Enchanter, Templar, Runelord, Dark Champion, Crystal Dragon, Evil Sorceress (New!) 
 
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 Warmonger 
  
   
        
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posted July 10, 2008 06:06 PM | 
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Not only looks great, but may also be pretty playable unlike the others. Will have to install it.
 
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posted July 10, 2008 06:40 PM | 
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Haha, looks cute and evil! The light in its hands is awesome! 
Will download him right now!
 
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posted July 10, 2008 07:37 PM | 
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I am curius, what value does 1 have? 
I mean: 
*1skeleton = X spellpower 
I want to know(because it got fireball  )
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 TheDeath 
  
    
         
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posted July 10, 2008 07:40 PM | 
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Quote: I want to know(because it got fireball  )
  Archmages have Fireball too   
 
the spellpower formula is not linear, it's logarithmic  
 
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posted July 10, 2008 07:54 PM | 
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Edited by Fauch at 20:23, 10 Jul 2008. 
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the skeletons have a growth of 20 per week I think. 
so it's simple, a week of skeletons have the same spellpower as a week of mages or a week of balors. 
 
the fireball of 2 balors = the fireball of 5 archmagi = the fireball of 20 skeletons. 
err, no. I've just realised the skeletons cast it with no mastery... 
 
so you can delete the armour of the skeleton without deleting its body. 
the effect looks awesome on the picture, what is it? 
 
now, I'm thinking, should I steal it for my mod?  
 
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posted July 10, 2008 08:32 PM | 
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Wow, that's awesome!   Downloaded. 
 
Except of the fact that it has 8 mana and a Fireball costs 10 mana.  
 
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posted July 10, 2008 08:57 PM | 
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It's a masterpiece   Just the Bless doesn't fit good with the skellie (Undeads) imo, but this doesn't matter.
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posted July 10, 2008 09:31 PM | 
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Quote: now, I'm thinking, should I steal it for my mod?
   
Adopt. Yep, we need good creatures and this one is of the best quality. At the same time should be promoted. 
 
Also no reason to duplicate skellies endlessly.
 
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posted July 11, 2008 10:04 AM | 
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so you can delete the armour of the skeleton without deleting its body
   
 
Precisely - in original model Skeleton doesn't have anything under his armour that could be uncovered by whiping it out. I just toyed a little with alpha and retextured the armour itself so it looks like a natural chest made of bones (he has no spine though). Take a look at the texture inside the mod 
 
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Except of the fact that it has 8 mana and a Fireball costs 10 mana.  
   
 
An ability to cast Fireball instantly would be imba even with no mastery. I resolved it in this way - Siphon Mana increases mana of your casters, so Skeleton's Mage itself too. So you can cast Fireball after sucking the mana out. Unfortunately AI is too dumb to use the combination... 
 
 
And thanks for the QP.
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posted July 11, 2008 10:33 AM | 
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Except of the fact that it has 8 mana and a Fireball costs 10 mana.  
   
 
An ability to cast Fireball instantly would be imba even with no mastery. I resolved it in this way - Siphon Mana increases mana of your casters, so Skeleton's Mage itself too. So you can cast Fireball after sucking the mana out. Unfortunately AI is too dumb to use the combination...
   
 
Yes, this is an excellent way to resolve the balance issue!   
 
And yes, it looks quite amazing, good work.
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What will happen now?
 
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posted July 11, 2008 02:00 PM | 
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Quote:
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so you can delete the armour of the skeleton without deleting its body
   
 
Precisely - in original model Skeleton doesn't have anything under his armour that could be uncovered by whiping it out. I just toyed a little with alpha and retextured the armour itself so it looks like a natural chest made of bones (he has no spine though). Take a look at the texture inside the mod 
   
actually I quickly looked at it, and didn't realise it was a modified armour.
 
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posted July 11, 2008 07:25 PM | 
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Great job! It looks as though it has new animations, but it doesn't!  
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Hwær cwom mearg? Hwær cwom mago? 
Hwær cwom maþþumgyfa? - 'The Wanderer'
 
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posted July 21, 2008 11:15 PM | 
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where do i unpack that: 
-UserMODs? 
-data? 
-bin? 
Thanks. ^^ and yes i'm not good at these =) 
 
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 Warmonger 
  
   
        
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posted July 22, 2008 06:41 AM | 
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Quote: Installation instructions: unpack directly into your game directory folder.
   
 
Assuming that you already have NCF core installed.
 
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 TheArchLich 
  
   
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posted July 22, 2008 08:00 AM | 
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and what is that? 
  where i can install that?
 
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posted July 22, 2008 08:20 AM | 
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 VokialBG 
  
     
        
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posted July 22, 2008 09:13 AM | 
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posted July 22, 2008 10:40 AM | 
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BTW, he cant steal mana. He can only transef it to other casters, not to himself. I was fighting against Archliches and the ability was not available.
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posted July 22, 2008 11:25 AM | 
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you can suck mana only from heroes, not other creatures
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