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Heroes Community > Turban Tribunal > Thread: Should we keep the +QP/-QP system?
Thread: Should we keep the +QP/-QP system? This thread is 27 pages long: 1 10 ... 12 13 14 15 16 ... 20 27 · «PREV / NEXT»
winterfate
winterfate


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posted April 01, 2009 01:54 AM

Well I personally don't mind the change, but I can imagine all of the people now stuck with flood protection again.

Then again, I don't post nearly enough (not usually anyways) to break my limit.

I think this will be a good change, although I will miss the second set of stars below my avatar.
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kainc
kainc


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posted April 01, 2009 01:54 AM
Edited by kainc at 01:57, 01 Apr 2009.

<softness_and_kindness>

In one way I do understand those who've been here long and then these stars are suddenly gone. They were symbol of quality, and I believe some of you might have actually aimed to gain more of them, just because they are QUALITY points, in some point of your membership. I'm not talking about any certain member here, so don't get offended. But I hope you don't think you're not appreciated just because those stars are gone. You might be mad right now, but hopefully you don't leave here just because of those stars. You have earned them in some point in your membership, that means YOU HAVE DONE SOMETHING GOOD. That is much more than red stars under your avatar, and that wont vanish. It will remain in other members' memories. Let's say you have helped someone, made a guide, made a mod... and were granted a QP. Now the QP is gone but think about the happy face of kainc or any other member that you have helped. Am i sounding like a flower girl here? well it's very late (02:49) here and I revealed my soft side, again.

I have never been too competitive, so perhaps that's why I don't care about those stars. Since that's what they've become... trophies of argument. In other hand, maybe I'm just too old to realize this fuzz anymore.

So, I agree with Pan and Val here.

Hopefully you can get over those QPs and dwell happily in HC in the future

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mvassilev
mvassilev


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posted April 01, 2009 02:16 AM

Elvin:
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Now for the others that got all dramatic take one minute to consider that nobody took anything away from you, that nobody attacked or disrespected you much less butchered your mother, father and raped your cattle.
Ah, but there you're wrong. I now have increased floodprotect.

Val:
Has DeadMan hacked your account or something? Your decision isn't necessarily bad, but I strongly disagree with the rationale for it.

When a thief breaks into your house and steals your stuff, you get the police - you don't just shrug and say, "That's life."
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RickAstleyII
RickAstleyII

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posted April 01, 2009 02:23 AM

Never Gonna Give You Up
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Asheera
Asheera


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posted April 01, 2009 03:07 AM

Aculias, your comments towards my penalty prove that you didn't even get the main point why I didn't like it. As I said it was not the fact that I lost a quality count, I even said that if the mods want it they could have removed one of my QPs. So please get the situation and facts right before starting to comment, especially if you're going to insult me

And can you cut the "Asheera whined" crap? I find that offensive and my comments were not even close to whining. They were just my response to the situation, or is it that I should just shut the hell up and let the Mods decide my entire HC existence without even questioning anything?
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The_Gootch
The_Gootch


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Kneel Before Me Sons of HC!!
posted April 01, 2009 03:14 AM

I'm surprised all the godless commie heathen socialist euros aren't dancing in the streets over this enforced equality amongst all of us.  Congrats you whiny wannabe proletariots.  The real irony is that by removing the stars you've removed our red.

Vivé la revolucíon!!!
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RickAstleyIV
RickAstleyIV

Tavern Dweller
posted April 01, 2009 03:18 AM

Please don't silence me again. I gotta tell her how I'm feelin.
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SwampLord
SwampLord


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posted April 01, 2009 03:19 AM

Haha Val, I'm enjoying the new HC logo, that was a nice touch.

Also, Rick Astley, thanks for helping lighten the mood.
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Salamandre
Salamandre


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Wog refugee
posted April 01, 2009 03:37 AM

Posted by Father yesterday

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On another note, if you take the QP's away from me, I will still stay here. Matter of fact, if you wish you can take all 3 of the ones I have now and give them to whomever you wish or feel deserves them. & as far as you being stretched to thin Pan, I would be more than willing to be a Mod in the OSM thread. After I have been around long enough of course and been deemed worthy, lol


Today Father's signature

Quote:

I have walked away from HC because of the QP's being removed. This is my permanent protest-



Is away better now?

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mvassilev
mvassilev


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posted April 01, 2009 03:45 AM

Wait. Now that we don't have QPs, we can't see how many high-quality posts a thread has. This was an implication I had not considered before.
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sith_of_ziost
sith_of_ziost


Promising
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Scouting the Multiverse
posted April 01, 2009 03:48 AM
Edited by sith_of_ziost at 04:00, 01 Apr 2009.

Being as noticeable and astute a person, I just now noticed the subtraction of the quality post stars. And I just have one thing to say: so be it.

I may be the only one that feels this way, and by all means, Val take the darn things away, but if there's no differential between the meaningful posters and the commonplace trawl then its a community I am loathed to be apart of. Mark my words, my days are numbered.

Let's channel this disgruntled attitude to a purpose.

Five Damn Good Points for QPs

Motivation - Sure, QPs aren't worth anything except better posting speed and limit. However, without them, why would one have to strive to post in better context. There's no point except for bettering the community. That's the thinking of any new member, which leads into my next point.

Ambition - With nothing to return for great works, why would newbs bother to post anything worthwhile. Moreover, why would they even make good posts in the first place, there's no incentive to entice them into the communities limelight, thus the stagnation of their combined attitudes will damn the future of the community.

Contests? Bah - Now, what's the colliseum going to do now? Give you ribbons? Without QPs, the Collisuem is essentially dead, with no reward for contests. Same with RPGS, why even bother to go that extra mile if your not QP fetching or you know that nothing will say you did something great, or I have a good post somewhere.

Esteem - Quintessentially the most important quality of a good member. They want to feel like they've earned something, that they've done something that makes them feel wanted. They have motivation to post more, sometimes in less than adequate places, but all the same, their motives are there. Other members see them as paragons, someone to look up to. Without QPs, that area of the community doesn't exist.

Just Plain Nice - The most obvious, blunt point I can put down here is that its nice to be nice. It feels good to have earned that little red star. It boosts your encouragement to maybe make another cool mod or start an interesting contest. If you won the game before, nothing feels better than to host another knowing that you've got some experience in it. Maybe just as trophies, all the same, the point gets across.

That's my thoughts, take what you wish of them. This is a BIG culture shock to the community. Don't expect people to take it lightly. Me, what's a rusty ole bag of bones gonna do about it, So I'll prevail. This is my call to everyone else, that a lots going away with QPs, but the community will always be here.

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Aculias
Aculias


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posted April 01, 2009 04:06 AM

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Aculias, your comments towards my penalty prove that you didn't even get the main point why I didn't like it. As I said it was not the fact that I lost a quality count, I even said that if the mods want it they could have removed one of my QPs. So please get the situation and facts right before starting to comment, especially if you're going to insult me

And can you cut the "Asheera whined" crap? I find that offensive and my comments were not even close to whining. They were just my response to the situation, or is it that I should just shut the hell up and let the Mods decide my entire HC existence without even questioning anything?


What point is that?
That you was joking & there was not really any problem?
You are speaking the truth now.
This whole issue has happened because of the -QP you have gotten.
Dont you understand?
All of this hapened because of the issue.

You threatened to quit almost full time because of the reasons given that you lost the -QP.
Enough to where i had to make a thread so I was reassured that Pandora would not quit.
You should not take that offensive my comment.
You should take it as a positive remark.

Like I said, it happens.
You did not need to get carried away about it.
The people who like you did not have to make such a hugh deal out of it.


P.S I wonder if Romanians are good
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Salamandre
Salamandre


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Wog refugee
posted April 01, 2009 04:08 AM

Uh..I am romanian. What I did?
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SwampLord
SwampLord


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Lord of the Swamp
posted April 01, 2009 04:14 AM
Edited by SwampLord at 04:16, 01 Apr 2009.

Quote:
Being as noticeable and astute a person, I just now noticed the subtraction of the quality post stars. And I just have one thing to say: so be it.

I may be the only one that feels this way, and by all means, Val take the darn things away, but if there's no differential between the meaningful posters and the commonplace trawl then its a community I am loathed to be apart of.



Just on a starting note, you made some excellent points in your edit and I just want to make it known that I'm not trying to quote you out of context in any way here, your other post is just too big.

I'm going to use a Warhammer Forum, Warseer, as an example here. Now, Warseer does have paid subscriptions or something (as far as I can determine) that give you a nice little star next to your username. But, there's no reward for a really good post. However, Warseer still has plenty of really, really good posts. But more importantly, what you refer to, the differential between the "commonplace trawl" and the "meaningful" posters is still there. It's just solely in the eyes of your peers, the community.

Just because we no longer have QPs does not mean we won't be judged on the quality/humor/validity of our posts by our peers, and gain a reputation accordingly. One differential has been removed, but the ultimate differential between someone who spams Wastelands and someone who makes five total conversion texture mods or something of that nature is still there. And that differential is your actual, real, fake Internet () reputation.

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william
william


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LummoxLewis
posted April 01, 2009 04:20 AM
Edited by william at 04:21, 01 Apr 2009.

Quote:
I was almost sure that William and Lexxan will be outraged if


You don't stop do you? All I said was that it must be an april fool joke. I don't care about QP's that I get but I think taking away the system was a bad decision.  You really like to bring back old discussions don't you?

I'm asking nicely for you to stop.

Quote:
As if Bill the Troll would have QP's if the mods actually cared. I've been here since September and he's been a worthless negative troll the entire time, and yet he still ran around with 4 red stars as though his existence wasn't the liability that it is.


Excuse me? Watch your mouth buddy.
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sith_of_ziost
sith_of_ziost


Promising
Supreme Hero
Scouting the Multiverse
posted April 01, 2009 04:26 AM

@Swamplord - Indeed. That's the curse of bipolarity.

But, as I have two faces, a dark and a light, my light side says whatever. This is still the greatest community that I've ever seen and I am proud to be a part of it.

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Pissed_Redneck
Pissed_Redneck

Tavern Dweller
posted April 01, 2009 04:41 AM

DEY TUKK URR QPs!


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sith_of_ziost
sith_of_ziost


Promising
Supreme Hero
Scouting the Multiverse
posted April 01, 2009 04:44 AM



What in the name of Ragnos?

This is somewhat spamlike. Maybe you should pen- oh wait.

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mvassilev
mvassilev


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posted April 01, 2009 04:46 AM

Quote:
But, as I have two faces, a dark and a light, my light side says whatever.
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You're a Sith. What light side?
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Aculias
Aculias


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Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
posted April 01, 2009 05:21 AM

Quote:
Uh..I am romanian. What I did?


Use your imagination Salamandre & you will know what I meant

Knowing me on here you should of already knew
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